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Believe me , I don't always kick them out. There are

nights we just pick em up and toss em in bed with us..

we just dont have any room to sleep comfortably. I'm

just afraid to make this a habit. And I normally only

get 3-4 hours of sleep a night as it is. Treatments

need to begin no later than 4:30 am, and we very

rarily get treatments done at night and into bed

before 10 pm. I guess I just thought this meant they

had some insecurities, cuz the only time I remember

trying to climb in bed with my parents was when I was

scared, and when they got divorced. I msy try that,

though, give them one night a week each when they are

allowed to sleep with me. But NOT the same time. We

only have a full size. Four people on that bed

usually means atleast one will be pushed off (and for

some reason that always seems to be me).

--- Baxter wrote:

> Jen,

>

> I think they just want to be near you guys. My six

> year old who doesnt have

> cf has probably spent 10-20 nights in his life in

> his own bed where Eilish

> who is 3 1/2 wcf doesnt mind it in her own bed, but

> if she comes in then so

> be it. Our bed is like a commune. I know not

> everyone likes their kids in

> the bed but were dont mind. They wont do it forever

> and boy I'd miss waking

> up to the little whispers between themselves and the

> little kisses they give

> to wake me up.

>

> Maybe they could have 1 night (a special night) each

> week where they could

> sleep in with you guys. My friend does this each

> Friday night with her son

> as a treat.

>

>

>

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Hi Jen,

welcome to the list! We also generally don't like the idea of the " family-bed " .

But we let Fiona sleep in her own bed in our sleeping-room for almost the first

three years of her life. When we moved into our new home then, we were a bit

anxious, that she wouldn't sleep in her own room. To our surprise Fiona demanded

to sleep in her room from day one on. She has hardly spent a night in our bed

for the last 18 months. But whenever she wakes up at night and wants to get into

our bed, we let her, since there is not much sense in discussing with a child at

night.

Although Fiona is a VERY clingy child and hasn't spent more than six hours in a

row without her mom, she has never made up stories to get into our bed. Fiona

was very verbal from little on and we were often surprised, how a child can

become scared of the smallest things. Even the Teletubbies can sometimes be

scaring in the eyes of kids.

Have you asked Jonathon what is scaring him and why? We always encourage Fiona

to talk about her bad dreams and I am often surprised how detailled she can

recall her worries from the night before.

Hope you'll figure it out.

Bye

Torsten, dad of Fiona 4wcf

e-mail: aberdeen95@...

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Fay, At one time I was having severe crying spells followed by screaming

and screaming. It does not matter what I was saying but I got all work

up if I was late for an appt. by a min. I'd cry if someone said Boo!.

so I can understand how you feel. I still have them sometimes but they

are not as bad or as often. And my therapist taught me some techniques

like deep breathing, lying on the bed and closing your eyes and thinking

of being somewhere nice and start from toes up to head slowly feeling

yourself relaxed. It depends on the state in which I am in whether these

things work or not. I do a lot of praying. Don't know where you are

with that. If you trust your doc then tell him how bad the anxiety

is maybe he can suggest something. I see you are on benadryl, I can not

take that stuff it acts the opposite. Everyone has to find there

relaxation mode and it is not an easy thing with what else we deal with.

Good luck and i hope you have some good support at home. And you know the

group is with you. Write me anytime. I am not sure that help but to say

I will pray for you and I sure know where you are coming from. God Bless

Deana mother of 2 grown up and out of house SO who is no

support at all

On Thu, 24 May 2001 21:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Fay

writes:

> Hello

> I have been around for a while and have introduced

> several times. I wanted to tell you about how I have

> been. i have been very nervous laately. the anxiety

> has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

> maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

> i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

> I was also wondering if any of you'll live in

> Louisiana. If anybody does who is their doctor. I

> think that i have really found a good doctor finally.

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

> to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

> 150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

> 40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

> 1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

> teenagers help fay

>

> __________________________________________________

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Fay, At one time I was having severe crying spells followed by screaming

and screaming. It does not matter what I was saying but I got all work

up if I was late for an appt. by a min. I'd cry if someone said Boo!.

so I can understand how you feel. I still have them sometimes but they

are not as bad or as often. And my therapist taught me some techniques

like deep breathing, lying on the bed and closing your eyes and thinking

of being somewhere nice and start from toes up to head slowly feeling

yourself relaxed. It depends on the state in which I am in whether these

things work or not. I do a lot of praying. Don't know where you are

with that. If you trust your doc then tell him how bad the anxiety

is maybe he can suggest something. I see you are on benadryl, I can not

take that stuff it acts the opposite. Everyone has to find there

relaxation mode and it is not an easy thing with what else we deal with.

Good luck and i hope you have some good support at home. And you know the

group is with you. Write me anytime. I am not sure that help but to say

I will pray for you and I sure know where you are coming from. God Bless

Deana mother of 2 grown up and out of house SO who is no

support at all

On Thu, 24 May 2001 21:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Fay

writes:

> Hello

> I have been around for a while and have introduced

> several times. I wanted to tell you about how I have

> been. i have been very nervous laately. the anxiety

> has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

> maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

> i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

> I was also wondering if any of you'll live in

> Louisiana. If anybody does who is their doctor. I

> think that i have really found a good doctor finally.

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

> to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

> 150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

> 40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

> 1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

> teenagers help fay

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Fay, At one time I was having severe crying spells followed by screaming

and screaming. It does not matter what I was saying but I got all work

up if I was late for an appt. by a min. I'd cry if someone said Boo!.

so I can understand how you feel. I still have them sometimes but they

are not as bad or as often. And my therapist taught me some techniques

like deep breathing, lying on the bed and closing your eyes and thinking

of being somewhere nice and start from toes up to head slowly feeling

yourself relaxed. It depends on the state in which I am in whether these

things work or not. I do a lot of praying. Don't know where you are

with that. If you trust your doc then tell him how bad the anxiety

is maybe he can suggest something. I see you are on benadryl, I can not

take that stuff it acts the opposite. Everyone has to find there

relaxation mode and it is not an easy thing with what else we deal with.

Good luck and i hope you have some good support at home. And you know the

group is with you. Write me anytime. I am not sure that help but to say

I will pray for you and I sure know where you are coming from. God Bless

Deana mother of 2 grown up and out of house SO who is no

support at all

On Thu, 24 May 2001 21:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Fay

writes:

> Hello

> I have been around for a while and have introduced

> several times. I wanted to tell you about how I have

> been. i have been very nervous laately. the anxiety

> has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

> maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

> i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

> I was also wondering if any of you'll live in

> Louisiana. If anybody does who is their doctor. I

> think that i have really found a good doctor finally.

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

> to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

> 150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

> 40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

> 1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

> teenagers help fay

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi Fay,

I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find something to do even if

it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my husband for a while and that

helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse. I don't have a

medication especially to take there are some out there. I am sure that you

will get more information from the nice people on the list.

Take care and let me know how your are coping with anxiety. We all care about

you and you are in my prayers.

Irene

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

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Hi Fay,

I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find something to do even if

it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my husband for a while and that

helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse. I don't have a

medication especially to take there are some out there. I am sure that you

will get more information from the nice people on the list.

Take care and let me know how your are coping with anxiety. We all care about

you and you are in my prayers.

Irene

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

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Hi Fay,

I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find something to do even if

it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my husband for a while and that

helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse. I don't have a

medication especially to take there are some out there. I am sure that you

will get more information from the nice people on the list.

Take care and let me know how your are coping with anxiety. We all care about

you and you are in my prayers.

Irene

> if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

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In a message dated 5/25/01 10:08:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patidu@...

writes:

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

Anxiety is usually treated with klonapin or xanax. Just take a little.

Breathing exercises are great. Breath in through your nose and let your

stomach expand outward. When you breath in through your nose make sure your

stomach is expanded. When you let the air out make a like loud noise. The

best way is to keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth. If your

anxiety/panic attaches are bad you may have to take one of the above

medicians for it. They work great, they both are addicting, but when you

feel like you can handle it on your own , the medicine will be SLOWLY tapered

off. I'm a Psych nurse and I used to teach people how to relax. The

knowledge has helped me a lot with fibro. My fibro hit's my legs badly, they

spasm so bad and it is very painful. I have to use the technicques I know or

I would go mad with pain. Another good one is to gently stretch each part of

your body and keep telling yourself it will pass. If you are having them a

lot I mean every day, talk to your doctor about the. There is also some

med's that are not addictive I can't name them all because there are a lot.

Remember, we all all different. What works for one may not work for the

other. That's why it's imporant to see your Doctor. It probably will be a

trial and error sort of thing. I'm sure you will fing what help's you.

Good Luck

Kathy D.

Diagnosed in 98

Live in Western Massachusetts

Married for almost 19yrs, to a sweetheart

Mother to 16 and 14

My Rottie dog Shelby

Spooky the cat

Hobbies: Boating, Learning this computer

Arts & Crafts, and a passionate reader

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In a message dated 5/25/01 10:08:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patidu@...

writes:

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

Anxiety is usually treated with klonapin or xanax. Just take a little.

Breathing exercises are great. Breath in through your nose and let your

stomach expand outward. When you breath in through your nose make sure your

stomach is expanded. When you let the air out make a like loud noise. The

best way is to keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth. If your

anxiety/panic attaches are bad you may have to take one of the above

medicians for it. They work great, they both are addicting, but when you

feel like you can handle it on your own , the medicine will be SLOWLY tapered

off. I'm a Psych nurse and I used to teach people how to relax. The

knowledge has helped me a lot with fibro. My fibro hit's my legs badly, they

spasm so bad and it is very painful. I have to use the technicques I know or

I would go mad with pain. Another good one is to gently stretch each part of

your body and keep telling yourself it will pass. If you are having them a

lot I mean every day, talk to your doctor about the. There is also some

med's that are not addictive I can't name them all because there are a lot.

Remember, we all all different. What works for one may not work for the

other. That's why it's imporant to see your Doctor. It probably will be a

trial and error sort of thing. I'm sure you will fing what help's you.

Good Luck

Kathy D.

Diagnosed in 98

Live in Western Massachusetts

Married for almost 19yrs, to a sweetheart

Mother to 16 and 14

My Rottie dog Shelby

Spooky the cat

Hobbies: Boating, Learning this computer

Arts & Crafts, and a passionate reader

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In a message dated 5/25/01 10:08:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patidu@...

writes:

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

>

Anxiety is usually treated with klonapin or xanax. Just take a little.

Breathing exercises are great. Breath in through your nose and let your

stomach expand outward. When you breath in through your nose make sure your

stomach is expanded. When you let the air out make a like loud noise. The

best way is to keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth. If your

anxiety/panic attaches are bad you may have to take one of the above

medicians for it. They work great, they both are addicting, but when you

feel like you can handle it on your own , the medicine will be SLOWLY tapered

off. I'm a Psych nurse and I used to teach people how to relax. The

knowledge has helped me a lot with fibro. My fibro hit's my legs badly, they

spasm so bad and it is very painful. I have to use the technicques I know or

I would go mad with pain. Another good one is to gently stretch each part of

your body and keep telling yourself it will pass. If you are having them a

lot I mean every day, talk to your doctor about the. There is also some

med's that are not addictive I can't name them all because there are a lot.

Remember, we all all different. What works for one may not work for the

other. That's why it's imporant to see your Doctor. It probably will be a

trial and error sort of thing. I'm sure you will fing what help's you.

Good Luck

Kathy D.

Diagnosed in 98

Live in Western Massachusetts

Married for almost 19yrs, to a sweetheart

Mother to 16 and 14

My Rottie dog Shelby

Spooky the cat

Hobbies: Boating, Learning this computer

Arts & Crafts, and a passionate reader

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Hi Fay,

Glad to meet ya!

I agree totally with Irene. Get your mind on

something

else, or better yet, on nothing! That takes time and

practice, but it is possible through meditation,

relaxation. When I get anxious, I put on some really

soft, soothing music, and I get out my journal and

start writing. I ask myself, what's wrong? And when

I get to writing, it just comes out on that paper,

and I see it differently. It's weird, but it works!

Sometimes I just sit and try and focus on something.

A lit candle is good. I take long, slow, deep

breathes, and I let them out very slowly, and I start

with my feet and feel them go limp, and work my way

up. In the beginning, I didn't think it worked that

great, but I saw results anyway, and as I started to

do it every day, I found I got better at it. I don't

have as many anxious days as I use to, nor do I have

as much pain, as I use to. I really feel this is

why. When I let is slide and forget to be good to

myself, then I pay for it! Your library should have

meditation tapes you can bring home and tape. They're

great!

Hope this helps!

LOL

Sue

--- patidu@... wrote:

> Hi Fay,

>

> I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find

> something to do even if

> it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my

> husband for a while and that

> helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse.

> I don't have a

> medication especially to take there are some out

> there. I am sure that you

> will get more information from the nice people on

> the list.

>

> Take care and let me know how your are coping with

> anxiety. We all care about

> you and you are in my prayers.

>

> Irene

>

>

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you

> do

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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abraxis3@...

Hi Fay,

Glad to meet ya!

I agree totally with Irene. Get your mind on

something

else, or better yet, on nothing! That takes time and

practice, but it is possible through meditation,

relaxation. When I get anxious, I put on some really

soft, soothing music, and I get out my journal and

start writing. I ask myself, what's wrong? And when

I get to writing, it just comes out on that paper,

and I see it differently. It's weird, but it works!

Sometimes I just sit and try and focus on something.

A lit candle is good. I take long, slow, deep

breathes, and I let them out very slowly, and I start

with my feet and feel them go limp, and work my way

up. In the beginning, I didn't think it worked that

great, but I saw results anyway, and as I started to

do it every day, I found I got better at it. I don't

have as many anxious days as I use to, nor do I have

as much pain, as I use to. I really feel this is

why. When I let is slide and forget to be good to

myself, then I pay for it! Your library should have

meditation tapes you can bring home and tape. They're

great!

Hope this helps!

LOL

Sue

--- patidu@... wrote:

> Hi Fay,

>

> I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find

> something to do even if

> it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my

> husband for a while and that

> helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse.

> I don't have a

> medication especially to take there are some out

> there. I am sure that you

> will get more information from the nice people on

> the list.

>

> Take care and let me know how your are coping with

> anxiety. We all care about

> you and you are in my prayers.

>

> Irene

>

>

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you

> do

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Hi Fay,

Glad to meet ya!

I agree totally with Irene. Get your mind on

something

else, or better yet, on nothing! That takes time and

practice, but it is possible through meditation,

relaxation. When I get anxious, I put on some really

soft, soothing music, and I get out my journal and

start writing. I ask myself, what's wrong? And when

I get to writing, it just comes out on that paper,

and I see it differently. It's weird, but it works!

Sometimes I just sit and try and focus on something.

A lit candle is good. I take long, slow, deep

breathes, and I let them out very slowly, and I start

with my feet and feel them go limp, and work my way

up. In the beginning, I didn't think it worked that

great, but I saw results anyway, and as I started to

do it every day, I found I got better at it. I don't

have as many anxious days as I use to, nor do I have

as much pain, as I use to. I really feel this is

why. When I let is slide and forget to be good to

myself, then I pay for it! Your library should have

meditation tapes you can bring home and tape. They're

great!

Hope this helps!

LOL

Sue

--- patidu@... wrote:

> Hi Fay,

>

> I have found that when I get anxiety, I try to find

> something to do even if

> it is in the middle of the night. I talk to my

> husband for a while and that

> helps but if I stay in bed it gets worse and worse.

> I don't have a

> medication especially to take there are some out

> there. I am sure that you

> will get more information from the nice people on

> the list.

>

> Take care and let me know how your are coping with

> anxiety. We all care about

> you and you are in my prayers.

>

> Irene

>

>

> > if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you

> do

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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the anxiety

has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

teenagers help fay

Hi Fay,

I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle. I have anxiety, the thing that has

helped the most was going on Remeron for depression. I also will

occasionally take either Kava Kave or Calms Forte (very similiar to the

kava). I also practiced calming myself when I was pretty calm and

associating a single word with it. Then when I started getting anxious, I

would repeat that word to calm myself. If I was slightly to moderately

upset it would help at least a little, if I was really upset, it didn't help

at all.

Darcy

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the anxiety

has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

teenagers help fay

Hi Fay,

I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle. I have anxiety, the thing that has

helped the most was going on Remeron for depression. I also will

occasionally take either Kava Kave or Calms Forte (very similiar to the

kava). I also practiced calming myself when I was pretty calm and

associating a single word with it. Then when I started getting anxious, I

would repeat that word to calm myself. If I was slightly to moderately

upset it would help at least a little, if I was really upset, it didn't help

at all.

Darcy

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the anxiety

has been really bad. I recently lost an Uncle and

maybe that is the after effects. I really do not know.

i have been having some really bad nightmares lately.

if anyone has anxiety please let me know what you do

to get over it . I am on serzone 200mg., trazodone

150mg., benadryl 50 mg., avandia,buspar 10mg. lasix

40mg, celebrax 200mg., flexeril10mg., calcium

1500mg.,multivitamin, zantac 150mg., mother of threee

teenagers help fay

Hi Fay,

I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle. I have anxiety, the thing that has

helped the most was going on Remeron for depression. I also will

occasionally take either Kava Kave or Calms Forte (very similiar to the

kava). I also practiced calming myself when I was pretty calm and

associating a single word with it. Then when I started getting anxious, I

would repeat that word to calm myself. If I was slightly to moderately

upset it would help at least a little, if I was really upset, it didn't help

at all.

Darcy

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Hi Darcy

I am so sorry that you recently lost an uncle. I do know what that is like,

as my aunt recently passed away and I had a hard time accepting it. I am

sorry you are having bad nightmares. They are the pits when that happened. I

have been having bad ones for a few nights.

I'd do anything to be less anxious!

Love

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Hi Darcy

I am so sorry that you recently lost an uncle. I do know what that is like,

as my aunt recently passed away and I had a hard time accepting it. I am

sorry you are having bad nightmares. They are the pits when that happened. I

have been having bad ones for a few nights.

I'd do anything to be less anxious!

Love

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Hi Darcy

I am so sorry that you recently lost an uncle. I do know what that is like,

as my aunt recently passed away and I had a hard time accepting it. I am

sorry you are having bad nightmares. They are the pits when that happened. I

have been having bad ones for a few nights.

I'd do anything to be less anxious!

Love

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Hi Darcy

I am so sorry that you recently lost an uncle. I do know what that is like,

as my aunt recently passed away and I had a hard time accepting it. I am

sorry you are having bad nightmares. They are the pits when that happened. I

have been having bad ones for a few nights.

I'd do anything to be less anxious!

Love

I think you have me confused with someone else, . I've never even had

an uncle let alone one that died recently. I vaguely remember responding to

someone like that, so maybe that's where the confusion came in.

Feeling anxious is never very fun. What are you doing to help with your

anxiety?

Darcy

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Hi Darcy

I am so sorry that you recently lost an uncle. I do know what that is like,

as my aunt recently passed away and I had a hard time accepting it. I am

sorry you are having bad nightmares. They are the pits when that happened. I

have been having bad ones for a few nights.

I'd do anything to be less anxious!

Love

I think you have me confused with someone else, . I've never even had

an uncle let alone one that died recently. I vaguely remember responding to

someone like that, so maybe that's where the confusion came in.

Feeling anxious is never very fun. What are you doing to help with your

anxiety?

Darcy

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Hi Darcy,

I'm sorry for confusing you with someone else.... I'm truly sorry.

I have decided to join a few support groups at yahoogroups.com and see how

other people deal with it. i have seen counsellors after counsellors but I

find they don't understand. They don't even recognise fibro as an illness!

Love

I wouldn't waste another second thinking about the mix up. Happens all of

the time to different people. I think people often have a hard time putting

themselves in other people's shoes. I know when I was a kid, my best friend

was overweight. I didn't care, it didn't bother me, but I thought if she

just stop eating M & M's that she'd loose weight. Never having been

overweight at that point, I really didn't have a clue how hard it was, and

not just a matter of passing up eating a candy bar every now and then. And

I think that's how most people are about issues that they aren't involved in

personally. Loose weight? Stop eating so much. Anxious over stuff you

shouldn't be?? Ah just don't worry about things. Need to get organized?

Just put stuff away. I'm not the most organized person in the world and DH

is even less than I am. With this fatigue, I don't get much house

cleaning/organizing done. I was complaining to a friend via email, and her

response was " oh, just take a magazine with you on the way to the bathroom

and put it away. " Without meaning to, she just totally negated my level of

fatigue, the fact my house and it's contents aren't arranged the way hers

probably are, it's more than just a magazine, and to do that is much easier

for an organized person than someone who isn't. I rather suspect the

counselors just don't have a clue. Dane woke up the other morning after a

poor night of sleeping with a slight cold. He was miserable. I pointed out

to him, that's pretty much how I feel most mornings with muscle pain on top

of it. He just nodded, but hadn't really got my point. I went back and

told him " Do you feel up to going to work right now? " He said " not

really " . I told him to add muscle aching into how he was feeling, I told

him I just wanted some credit for going to work like that all of the time.

So even Dane who is one of the most loving sympathetic people in the world,

just didn't " get it " at that moment in time. Gosh, this is a long message!

Darcy

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Hi Darcy,

I'm sorry for confusing you with someone else.... I'm truly sorry.

I have decided to join a few support groups at yahoogroups.com and see how

other people deal with it. i have seen counsellors after counsellors but I

find they don't understand. They don't even recognise fibro as an illness!

Love

I wouldn't waste another second thinking about the mix up. Happens all of

the time to different people. I think people often have a hard time putting

themselves in other people's shoes. I know when I was a kid, my best friend

was overweight. I didn't care, it didn't bother me, but I thought if she

just stop eating M & M's that she'd loose weight. Never having been

overweight at that point, I really didn't have a clue how hard it was, and

not just a matter of passing up eating a candy bar every now and then. And

I think that's how most people are about issues that they aren't involved in

personally. Loose weight? Stop eating so much. Anxious over stuff you

shouldn't be?? Ah just don't worry about things. Need to get organized?

Just put stuff away. I'm not the most organized person in the world and DH

is even less than I am. With this fatigue, I don't get much house

cleaning/organizing done. I was complaining to a friend via email, and her

response was " oh, just take a magazine with you on the way to the bathroom

and put it away. " Without meaning to, she just totally negated my level of

fatigue, the fact my house and it's contents aren't arranged the way hers

probably are, it's more than just a magazine, and to do that is much easier

for an organized person than someone who isn't. I rather suspect the

counselors just don't have a clue. Dane woke up the other morning after a

poor night of sleeping with a slight cold. He was miserable. I pointed out

to him, that's pretty much how I feel most mornings with muscle pain on top

of it. He just nodded, but hadn't really got my point. I went back and

told him " Do you feel up to going to work right now? " He said " not

really " . I told him to add muscle aching into how he was feeling, I told

him I just wanted some credit for going to work like that all of the time.

So even Dane who is one of the most loving sympathetic people in the world,

just didn't " get it " at that moment in time. Gosh, this is a long message!

Darcy

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Hi Darcy,

I'm sorry for confusing you with someone else.... I'm truly sorry.

I have decided to join a few support groups at yahoogroups.com and see how

other people deal with it. i have seen counsellors after counsellors but I

find they don't understand. They don't even recognise fibro as an illness!

Love

I wouldn't waste another second thinking about the mix up. Happens all of

the time to different people. I think people often have a hard time putting

themselves in other people's shoes. I know when I was a kid, my best friend

was overweight. I didn't care, it didn't bother me, but I thought if she

just stop eating M & M's that she'd loose weight. Never having been

overweight at that point, I really didn't have a clue how hard it was, and

not just a matter of passing up eating a candy bar every now and then. And

I think that's how most people are about issues that they aren't involved in

personally. Loose weight? Stop eating so much. Anxious over stuff you

shouldn't be?? Ah just don't worry about things. Need to get organized?

Just put stuff away. I'm not the most organized person in the world and DH

is even less than I am. With this fatigue, I don't get much house

cleaning/organizing done. I was complaining to a friend via email, and her

response was " oh, just take a magazine with you on the way to the bathroom

and put it away. " Without meaning to, she just totally negated my level of

fatigue, the fact my house and it's contents aren't arranged the way hers

probably are, it's more than just a magazine, and to do that is much easier

for an organized person than someone who isn't. I rather suspect the

counselors just don't have a clue. Dane woke up the other morning after a

poor night of sleeping with a slight cold. He was miserable. I pointed out

to him, that's pretty much how I feel most mornings with muscle pain on top

of it. He just nodded, but hadn't really got my point. I went back and

told him " Do you feel up to going to work right now? " He said " not

really " . I told him to add muscle aching into how he was feeling, I told

him I just wanted some credit for going to work like that all of the time.

So even Dane who is one of the most loving sympathetic people in the world,

just didn't " get it " at that moment in time. Gosh, this is a long message!

Darcy

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