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I believe there has been a suggestion that babywalkers can damage a baby's

pelvic bones if the child is allowed to spend too long in one, also that

they can hinder walking, rather than aid it, as the action needed to propel

a walker is different to that for real walking.

That doesn't take into account the likelihood of accidents, either from the

walker tipping over, falling down steps or parents not realising their baby

can now reach into places it couldn't two minutes previously! Last time I

read anything about it, the professional body of physiotherapists wanted

them to be banned.

Lesley, whose DS1 had an accident in baby walker and never used one again!

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Sue said.....Having been caught out before by not buying equipment in

advance, DH

and I are now being organised! I was discussing " baby walkers " with

my mother (I'm not sure what they're called -you know the things

which they sit in and wheel themselves about) and she says that

although she thought they were great " in her day " she's since heard

that they can be damaging to the physical development of young

chlidren! Could anyone shed any light on this? DS is only just coming

up to three months, but we'd like to start shopping around.

Thanks, Sue (Valois)

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On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:17:30 -0000, " Sue Valois "

wrote:

>Having been caught out before by not buying equipment in advance, DH

>and I are now being organised! I was discussing " baby walkers " with

>my mother (I'm not sure what they're called -you know the things

>which they sit in and wheel themselves about) and she says that

>although she thought they were great " in her day " she's since heard

>that they can be damaging to the physical development of young

>chlidren! Could anyone shed any light on this? DS is only just coming

>up to three months, but we'd like to start shopping around.

I don't know about damaging, but they are supposed to be dangerous

because of the possibility of tipping on uneven surfaces. ISTR that

there have been a number of accidents where a baby has wheeled

itself onto an uneven surface, or over a drop of some sort, and

tipped over/out. Suggests they weren't being supervised when these

accidents happened, though.

I did hear stuff about baby bouncers (the things you stick in

doorways) possibly being responsible for poor spinal development, so

I guess the same could be true of baby walkers. If there is any

doubt, don't use, is my motto. They're not exactly natural, are

they ? I preferred to stick to the tried and tested over thousands

of years, and put Dan on the floor a lot. :-) He was crawling by

just under 6 months, and walking at 10 months.

Cheers,

--

Clare Lusher.

SAHM to RuairĂ­ (24.10.99).

NCT Member Derby & District.

www.yum.org/clare

" The newborn baby will have only three demands. They are warmth in

the arms of its mother, food from her breasts, and security in the

knowledge of her presence. Breastfeeding satisfies all three. "

- Dr. Grantly Dick-Read

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>I was discussing " baby walkers " with

>my mother

<snip>

>and she says that

>although she thought they were great " in her day " she's since heard

>that they can be damaging to the physical development of young

>chlidren! Could anyone shed any light on this?

She may have seen something like the piece below, taken from the Trading

Standards website at www.tradingstandards.gov.uk

I searched on 'baby walkers' and this is what came up. It referred to a

survey of 10 baby walkers a couple of years ago where, IIRC, 7 or 8 out

of 10 were found to be unsafe, almost all of them made by major names.

As I think Clare said, the danger mainly seems to be from non-

supervision and parents not really being aware of the potential dangers

of a suddenly mobile baby able to reach higher than the parent would

expect. There was some call for them (babywalkers) to be made illegal

but IIRC it's because it is not the products that are dangerous but the

incorrect use of them that it's not been possible.

HTH,

--

Sue

<Quote>

Trading Standards' 'Horror' At Implications Of Court Ruling

Date: 23rd November 1999

The Trading Standards Institute was today 'horrified' at the

implications of a court ruling which strikes a major blow at local

authorities' efforts to warn the public about unsafe products.

Its Chairman, Sibbert, is now urging Trade and Industry Secretary

Byers to take urgent action to change the law so that Trading

Standards Departments can issue press releases about matters of concern

as soon as they come to light.

The High Court ruled today (23rd November) that a press notice put out

by Liverpool City Council in an effort to alert people that certain

brands of baby-walkers were dangerous was unlawful.

The Baby Products Association had claimed that the council did not have

the legal power to issue the warning that samples of ten baby-walkers

failed to comply with British Standard Safety specification.

The Lord Chief Justice agreed with the Association and upheld its

complaint, although he did accept that the council had acted in good

faith.

Roderick, Lead Officer on Product Safety for the Trading Standards

Institute, said: 'We are horrified at the implications of the decision.

'It is of prime importance that Trading Standards Departments have the

power to warn the public at the earliest opportunity when they consider

products to be unsafe.

'The use of the media is the best and quickest way to spread the

message.

'The Institute will be pressing for an urgent change in the law.'

Local Trading Standards Departments throughout the country had been

waiting anxiously for the ruling, which has major implications about

when they are legally allowed to go public with warnings about products.

The press release at the centre of the court battle was issued through

the Department of Trade and Industry in April 1998 and resulted in a

blaze of publicity.

Mr Sibbert said: 'We share Liverpool Council's disappointment and

concern at the implications of the judgement.

'It is appalling that Trading Standards Departments' hands should be

tied in this way and I am seeking an urgent meeting with the Department

of Trade and Industry to urge a change in the law.'

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>She may have seen something like the piece below, taken from the Trading

>Standards website at www.tradingstandards.gov.uk

>

>I searched on 'baby walkers' and this is what came up. It referred to a

>survey of 10 baby walkers a couple of years ago where, IIRC, 7 or 8 out

>of 10 were found to be unsafe, almost all of them made by major names.

IIRC the 'problem' with some of the 7/8 unsafe babywalkers was that the

safety information labels were not permanently fixed, not any structural

defect.

Lynda

SAHM to (7), (5), Fraser (2), Callum (15/5/00)

Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch

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There was some research saying (I think) how baby walkers don't teach the baby

how to walk and in fact can be detrimental to their health as babies have fallen

downstairs in them(!) and as they aren't yet able to asses dangers can speed in

them getting to hot drinks on tables and so on and pull the drinks over.

I have said before that I like them. DS3 now 6 months and crawling well, his has

been binned. I use mine for all 4 when they are at the stage of wanting to be up

right but not really able to sit for long periods, or wanting to be mobile and

frustrated at not being. Once they have become mobile then the walker has gone

away.

DD spent the most time in hers as she didn't crawl until 8 months but the boys

have all crawled around 6 months.

DD walked at a year, DS1 at 8 months DS2 at !0 months and DS3 is now walking

round the furniture at 6 months.

Mc

SAHM 6, Olivia 3, 1, 15/3/00

Nearly Ex-Editor Wallingford and District

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A friend's child used one quite a lot and was *extremely* slow to start walking,

mainly because he couldn't put his whole foot to the floor. He had been so used

to using his toes to propel himself about, that he could only put his toes to

the floor. Took them ages to teach him how to walk properly.

That's apart from the accidents caused by them toppling over steps, etc.

Alison

Having been caught out before by not buying equipment in advance, DH

and I are now being organised! I was discussing " baby walkers " with

my mother (I'm not sure what they're called -you know the things

which they sit in and wheel themselves about) and she says that

although she thought they were great " in her day " she's since heard

that they can be damaging to the physical development of young

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Clare said....here have been a number of accidents where a baby has wheeled

itself onto an uneven surface, or over a drop of some sort, and

tipped over/out. Suggests they weren't being supervised when these

accidents happened, though.

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DH and I were standing next to DS2 when he had his accident, so it isn't

necessarily because they are unsupervised. Small children can move very

quickly!

Lesley

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>HV at the local clinic recommended baby-bouncer instead.

I was always terrified of baby bouncers and gave them (yes we were given

two) away practically unused! The only time I ever felt confident they

wouldn't smash open Steffi's head was when we used them over a tree

branch in the garden.

Call me paranoid.... :-)

--

Sue

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