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i am truely torn as far as immunizations. i keep saying " he wont get them! "

but cades had all of them so far. but while i fear the reactions he mught

have from them and and the filth that is in them, i also fear cades getting

this diseases. and , for me, the fear of him being taken away is huge,

becuase , being a young mom, it would be easier to be charged with child

abuse. but i HATE the idea of the vaccines themselves

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In a message dated 5/18/99 4:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,

indigomoon@... writes:

<< Please don't get the 12 month vaccine...as I posted on an earlier email, go

to this site and read...if you are like me you won't be able to read very

many of these true Q & A letters written by normal, regular people that

watched their children's reactions and sometimes deaths...all in the name of

" health " >>

I now there is alot of mixed views on shots and I relaly hate to say this

cause I know how it is goign to sound. BUT I feel I have to anyway. The

likely hood that your child would die from a shot is sooo slim you can't even

imagen. It IS true that some children DO die but shots have saved Many Many

more children from many horrable illnesses.

It is because such a large precentage of people are getting shots (that

number is now decreasing) that some desises just DON'T exist anymore!!! And

that is great but if there are children out there who are not given shots

then they are goign to be the ones with the worse reactions. I guess if you

are not goign to give your child shots just pray that your child only hangs

around children that have :)

This is just my thoughts on it and like I said I do not know to much. But I

did want to givce another side to the mothers who DID get shots so they

wouldn't feel like they did anything wrong.

Amy

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In a message dated 5/18/99 6:50:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Phawxsee@...

writes:

<< thats what i do, but i go once weekly for an hour---its a blessing!! i am

sooo against daycare (for cade) but i HAVE to graduate. my school and

teacher

are WONDERFUL >>

Good for you Alli to continue going to school and pursue that High School

Diploma even while breastfeeding! If I lived near you I would meet you and

give you a hug.

Love,

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>I don't know what nbsp is?

>

It is an HTML code that our email software sends out without our knowledge.

I rarely use HTML in email, but told me that the & nbsp thing is

in many of my messages. For HTML, it means Non Breaking SPace.

I dont have any idea when, where or why it gets inserted into messages.

And FWIW, I dont see it in mine or s or anywhere else. Sure wish you

guys would show me where it gets inserted since it might help us learn how

to not do it. :)

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>We all do what we feel is right at the time...my Daughters both are & my Son

>isn't.

>

>I hope that no one thinks I'm on a high horse or something, cause I'm not at

>all.......I'm here on earth learning and sharing with a group of ladies that

>are dong the same thing...it's a great group of caring people !

>

>Love,

So well said...

And the same thing for the information I post.

I think would agree with me that no one should have the sort of power

to force you to do anything you arent comfortable with, and having the

information to help you decide what makes you comfortable is the best way

to AVOID feeling guilty -- even if the information itself makes you

uncomfortable, as it has for many of us.

Please, dont spare the information just to not overload us with email. :)

I finally put this list in its own folder/via filter, and set up a download

limit of 50k, which lets me choose if/when to download longer posts, and

when I have the time to read/view them. Much easier!

However, I would like to suggest to everyone that the delete quoted parts

of the original email to the relevant parts to shorten download times, and

the lengths of digests.

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In a message dated 5/18/99 2:01:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

indigomoon@... writes:

<< Please don't get the 12 month vaccine...as I posted on an earlier email, go

to this site and read...if you are like me you won't be able to read very

many of these true Q & A letters written by normal, regular people that

watched their children's reactions and sometimes deaths...all in the name of

" health "

>>

I have to pop in here! I am one am very glad to have immunizations here

for my kids. I believe in them & will vaccinate all my kids. Those stories, &

major reactions are the minority. There are risks to everything. When you go

out to eat you risk E-coli or hepatitis, but we still go out to eat.

Anyway, I just want to say, not everyone feels as you do. And for telling

Moms NOT to do it, well, we need to let them make up their own minds. It

would be like me telling you go GO do it. Maybe, just pass the info & let it

be at that.

I for one am very glad my children will not have risk to whooping cough,

German measles even chicken pox. I am glad vaccines are available in this day

& age. Hopefully soon we will have one for TB & HIV.

IMHO, & not trying to start a fight, but felt I need to present an opposite

side.

Cristina

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Amy,

I don't think it is a matter of right and wrong. I think it is a matter of

weighing the risks with each individual child and family. I also think

that parents should be much better informed about what our vaccines are

made with. I think that the medical community talks about informed

consent but they only inform you of their perspective and then expect you

to make an educated decision. I don't think it is a cut and dry decision

but one that should be well researched. The medical community doesn't give

us the opportunity to get this research. I had to change pediatricians

several times because of their aggresive immunization policies. I feel

that I am my child's advocate and have to make the best decision for him.

I don't think anyone should feel guilty for choices they make although I

do sometimes as well, but I know it isn't productive and just try to

continue to inform myself. I think your viewpoint is entirely valid which

is what makes this decision so difficult. I just know that if my child was

the one child to die that year from an immunization I would never forgive

myself, likewise if they died from a disease I didn't immunize for. It

isn't an easy decision. Its one of the things that makes AP parenting so

intensive. We can't just make a decision for our children based on the

masses we need to customize that decision for each of our children. Its

not easy and I think we should all give ourselves a big pat on the back for

being such concerned mommy's.

Wendi

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In a message dated 5/18/99 4:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,

indigomoon@... writes:

<< Please don't get the 12 month vaccine...as I posted on an earlier email,

go

to this site and read...if you are like me you won't be able to read very

many of these true Q & A letters written by normal, regular people that

watched their children's reactions and sometimes deaths...all in the name

of

" health " >>

I now there is alot of mixed views on shots and I relaly hate to say this

cause I know how it is goign to sound. BUT I feel I have to anyway. The

likely hood that your child would die from a shot is sooo slim you can't

even

imagen. It IS true that some children DO die but shots have saved Many Many

more children from many horrable illnesses.

It is because such a large precentage of people are getting shots (that

number is now decreasing) that some desises just DON'T exist anymore!!! And

that is great but if there are children out there who are not given shots

then they are goign to be the ones with the worse reactions. I guess if you

are not goign to give your child shots just pray that your child only hangs

around children that have :)

This is just my thoughts on it and like I said I do not know to much. But I

did want to givce another side to the mothers who DID get shots so they

wouldn't feel like they did anything wrong.

Amy

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