Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hi gina, lurker here, thanks for your posts, I am learning a lot and still after 18 months of one cleanse after another...parasites, yeast, etc... and taking differently supplements at different times, I am still, at 56 years of age, getting " junk " out... thank good I started my cleanse, I feel 5 years younger than I did two years ago, have more energy and am able to cope with every day life with a new outlook... :+) anyway, it takes time folks...anyone who says there's a quick cure is lying or selling something and that includes the pharmacy company (which I won't even get into!!!) Thanks again , I don't post often but read all the posts here and am grateful for all the opinions, insights, facts and knowledge :+) many good cleanses to all mary in minnesota In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:05:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, bowel cleanse writes: the person that complains is the last to do anything about it. People like him call me a health fanatical. So what kind of fanatical do you call him? When I got that 14 ft of black stuff mine wasn't slimy looking like that, mine was solid stiff looking piece and dry how I know that when I would wipe it was crumbly there was no moisture to it (sorry graphic) I got those results from my 37 day fast from day 16 to day 37 is when that stuff was coming out of me. I am doing a 30 day fast today I am on day 9, I am also journaling it on my website www.ginakopera.com . This week I am starting formula #2 and parasite tinctures as well, I will be doing that every monday-friday the next 3 weeks and on the weekend I will do a Liver flush. I will keep repeating this all the way thorough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Good Morning- How old is your child? The reason I ask, I can help direct to good products for the cleansing process and to help feed them. I sell some products but it is just depending on the age of the child which route will be more child friendly. I used: Raw milk (if available), if not don't sweat it, just do with what you have! Spirutein cookie and cream, I have found with my son I had to make it as kid friendly as possible, mise well enjoy. You can use any flavor preferable the healthier choices, meaning the less sugar when possible 3 Raw farm fresh organic eggs, this is very important as there is an incredible difference then store bought. Find yourself a local farmer Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera © Copyright 2007 s Corner. All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@...> Subject: [ ] GINA Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM Hi , I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work to his site. Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. Thanks! Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Hi : What is Spirutein cookie and cream? [ ] GINA Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM Hi , I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work to his site. Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. Thanks! Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Spirutein is just a powder protein shake, you can use any flavoring to your liking. That just happens to be my sons favorite. You can get creative with this drink as I owe it all to the raw eggs, I was giving my son the shake before with no eggs with no results. P.S: Joanie, if your son is intolerant to milk, try a Orange Julius which would be adding more carbs but I would try it anyhow. Several ounces of Orange or tangerine (preferably fresh squeezed), a couple of raw egg, a splash of milk or cream, some vanilla then blend till creamy and aerated. It is tasty, give that a try! I also want to note it is very important to open up your filters (colon,liver and kidneys) another words,get them moving!! Thats what my son and I did, you cant go wrong. From my learnings when the body is seizing it is searching for the missing nutrient, is it protein for all? I don't know the answer to that, but I can sure say I am glad that I didnt give up and my son doesn't have to live like a zombee any longer! Anyone interested in cleansing the organs child friendly way, just ask , i will share! Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera © Copyright 2007 s Corner. All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: joanie46115 <bjwilsonspitfire (DOT) net> Subject: [ ] GINA Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM Hi , I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work to his site. Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. Thanks! Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 -Hi again, My son is 17. Joanie -- In , Kopera <ginakopera1@...> wrote: > > Good Morning- > How old is your child? > The reason I ask, I can help direct to good products for the cleansing process and to help feed them. > I sell some products but it is just depending on the age of the child which route will be more child friendly. > I used: > Raw milk (if available), if not don't sweat it, just do with what you have! > Spirutein cookie and cream, I have found with my son I had to make it as kid friendly as possible, mise well enjoy. You can use any flavor preferable the healthier choices, meaning the less sugar when possible > 3 Raw farm fresh organic eggs, this is very important as there is an incredible difference then store bought. Find yourself a local farmer > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, > Kopera > © Copyright 2007 s Corner. All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. > > > From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@...> > Subject: [ ] GINA > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what > > to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back > > ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief > > glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My > > son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( > > unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he > > definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella > > and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs > > ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, > > interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and > > remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. > > Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those > > who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about > > this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a > > milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had > > trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? > > I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work > > to his site. > > > > Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I > > could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him > > on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time > > I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid > > takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I > > just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of > > interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right > > now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for > > it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. > > Thanks! > > Joanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Good, he is big enough to take a herbal laxative of any sort. I don't know if you have anything like that, you can use. What I have will help strengthen and tone the colon is has the herbs that are food for the colon at www.ginascorner.com , I have an awesome testimony aut that formula from a 13 year old child with Autism and seizures that has been in diapers since day 1, they went through $500 a month in diaper, shortly after taking the PowerPoop from nearly having to having his colon surgical cleaned out of the blockage he is now in regular undies and taking himself to the bathroom and cleaning himself up. Not only is that a big relief for Mom, his behavior has gotten better, not so many outbreaks with anger! What a relief! As time goes on, she is going to be working with him more from the knowledge and experienced that I have learned as she cant believe what a difference of quality for her son but in her case she will be taking slow as you cant communicate with him that easily. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera © Copyright 2007 s Corner. All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. > From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@.. .> > Subject: [ ] GINA > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what > > to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back > > ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief > > glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My > > son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( > > unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he > > definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella > > and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs > > ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, > > interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and > > remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. > > Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those > > who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about > > this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a > > milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had > > trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? > > I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work > > to his site. > > > > Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I > > could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him > > on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time > > I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid > > takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I > > just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of > > interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right > > now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for > > it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. > > Thanks! > > Joanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 , Do you think it is wise to give advice when you have something to sell? Some list groups allow this, honestly I don't know whether this one does or not. > From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@.. .> > Subject: [ ] GINA > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what > > to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back > > ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief > > glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My > > son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( > > unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he > > definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella > > and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs > > ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, > > interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and > > remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. > > Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those > > who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about > > this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a > > milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had > > trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? > > I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work > > to his site. > > > > Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I > > could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him > > on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time > > I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid > > takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I > > just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of > > interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right > > now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for > > it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. > > Thanks! > > Joanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hi , I am just trying to figure out what he really needs. I was thinking that yeast is his big issue. He is not autistic, by the way, which I know a lot of autistics are severely backed up in their bowels. My son has regular bm's twice a day at least ( usually ) and I did give him rounds of psyllium this year. He takes a lot of magnesium as well and that keeps him very regular. I am not saying he could not have some toxic muck laying around, but asking if he has always been regular would that be the case? Plus, I do think he had a lot of build up of glue type stuff from gluten - when that begins to heal I wonder if it can be a problem to clean up and if so what is the best way to do it? Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 always have them eat things high in fiber as well!!!!! i've gone 2 years 7 months without any seizures and that's the longest i've gone in 25 years. > From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@.. .> > Subject: [ ] GINA > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what > > to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back > > ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief > > glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My > > son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( > > unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he > > definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella > > and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs > > ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, > > interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and > > remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. > > Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those > > who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about > > this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a > > milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had > > trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? > > I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work > > to his site. > > > > Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I > > could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him > > on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time > > I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid > > takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I > > just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of > > interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right > > now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for > > it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. > > Thanks! > > Joanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hey , Saw your post and thought I'd say hi while my computer is behaving, I swear it has issues, but why not everyone in this house as issues, lol. Wishing you and the family well. I'll try to send you an e-mail soon. Fuerte fuertelmandn@... > From: joanie46115 <bjwilson@.. .> > Subject: [ ] GINA > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > I am really short on time and desperate as I try to figure out what > > to feed my son. I already explained his situation a few posts back > > ( I called it fine tuning.), so you if you can give it a brief > > glance... . I am mostly interested in your ideas about protein. My > > son seems to be a carb addict. He nibbles at meat and vegetables ( > > unless they are potatoes or other starch). So, I would think he > > definitely needs more protein. I do give him spirulina, chlorella > > and I listed those things on that post, too. But he did test 3 yrs > > ago as sensitive to milk and wheat ( but not casein, > > interestingly) . Both cow and goat. I have studied this issue and > > remain unsure - about giving him raw cheese very occasionally. > > Sally Fallon says that raw milk and cheeses might be ok for those > > who have sensitivities because it has all the enzymes. So, about > > this shake your talking about?? Cookies and cream? Is that ok on a > > milk free diet?? If is is raw? I looked around your site, but had > > trouble finding exactly what you did for your son. Did I miss it?? > > I see the letter from the man named Sam, but that link did not work > > to his site. > > > > Also, on cleansing. I have always used the most gentle approach I > > could and I tend to shy away from most formulations. I do keep him > > on silymarin for liver. I would prefer to use one product at a time > > I guess because I have concerns about all the supplements this kid > > takes!! Just so much it seems ridiculous. With his meds and all I > > just fear addding too much more. And I fear some sort of > > interaction problem. I just do not have the money for tests right > > now to see where he stands with supplements. I am saving up for > > it. But I can't just sit and twiddle my thumbs either. > > Thanks! > > Joanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Betty, I'm not sure what your SIL was told, but that's not RA. Are the bruises gone? Does she take medication? Not an MD On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, betty gates <bettygates@...> wrote: > > > hi gina, > i haven't seen you post today, but if you're on here was wondering if you > could maybe answer a question for me. > > my SIL has a 35 yr. old daughter who the dr. has said has some kind of > rheumatoid arthritis. she didn't know the name of it, said it was some long > name she couldn't remember. > she started out with big bruises all over her body, and they then swelled up > some. then she started hurting in her neck, and mostly in her coller bone > area. do you have any idea what this may be ?? have you ever heard of any > kind of arthritis like this ?? > > thanks, gina > > betty in alabama > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Betty, Maybe your SIL is talking about Henoch-Schönlein purpura (HSP)? http://www.nlm.nih.gov/MEDLINEPLUS/ency/article/000425.htm http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/henoch-schonlein-purpura/DS00838 http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1083588-overview Not an MD On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, betty gates <bettygates@...> wrote: > > > hi gina, > i haven't seen you post today, but if you're on here was wondering if you > could maybe answer a question for me. > > my SIL has a 35 yr. old daughter who the dr. has said has some kind of > rheumatoid arthritis. she didn't know the name of it, said it was some long > name she couldn't remember. > she started out with big bruises all over her body, and they then swelled up > some. then she started hurting in her neck, and mostly in her coller bone > area. do you have any idea what this may be ?? have you ever heard of any > kind of arthritis like this ?? > > thanks, gina > > betty in alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 , just curious if you are not an MD what are you By the way I am a certified cardiovascular tech Kathy Michiga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hi, Kathy. I have no medical training whatsoever. My signature line grew out of some rather unpleasant arguments here a very long time ago. More than once, I offered my opinion, and it was clearly not appreciated. " But you aren't even a doctor! " they shouted. Now I have a disclaimer for all to see. Not an MD On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Kathy<stepnitzcandles@...> wrote: > , just curious if you are not an MD what are you > By the way I am a certified cardiovascular tech > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Just curious, because I offered my opinion on the vicodin with ibuprofen and you acted as if you need to add to that being of authority. hmmm Kathy Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 You've misinterpreted, Kathy. I also don't see you in the thread that I responded to. If people are still asking questions about the issue, I'll answer. Not an MD On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Kathy<stepnitzcandles@...> wrote: > Just curious, because I offered my opinion on the vicodin with ibuprofen and you acted as if you need to add to that being of authority. > hmmm > Kathy > Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Oh sure thing, sorry hugs Kathy Re: [ ] gina You've misinterpreted, Kathy. I also don't see you in the thread that I responded to. If people are still asking questions about the issue, I'll answer. Not an MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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