Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I take to heart the comments that my approach seemed harsh Those comments are valid. However, much has been misunderstood, misinterpreted, or communicated badly on many fronts. So here is an attempt at some context. First the issue of doubting the veracity of the person who contacted Ken. I never knew who that was as the first mention of the name was in the post chastising me. When I said it was unsubstantiated, I was not referring to the person's honesty, but to the fact that we never heard anything again. The was no expectation personal information from the conversation would be shared. What was expected was some indication that Ken would be addressing the issue, with some estimate of a time frame, or some other indication that gave a reason to hope for a resolution. But the fact remains that there was, and still is silence on that point. The proposal to form a new group was never intended to replace or diminish the current group. It was offered only as a way to resolve a thorny problem. I am busy enough not to need the extra load of a group for any kind of personal reason. It seemed to me that if the new group was structured and operated like the old group, it would immediately allow all members to fully participate in the community. I never suggested it was a this or that decision, or any decision at all. What difference does it make which group we are members of if nothing has changed except for a name, and a different set of moderators if the community is still intact and thriving? This would in no way diminish the contribution Ken has made. In reality is would reenforce the value of his accomplishment, while relieving him of a burden he seems not to be able to carry for whatever reason. The 48 hour statement was not an ultimatum. It was a statement, admittedly strong, that it was time something be done in the absence of any other plan. Besides, how could it be an ultimatum when there was absolutely no consequence to the old or new group, Nobody was encouraged to quit the current group, or expected to do so. I am simply offering a place to go to keep 911Console alive. A place to go if anyone wanted to, not because of some kind of a contest or battle of egos, but because it is needed given the current set of circumstances. I never intended to quit the current group, or expected anyone else to. I fully expected the messages would be cross-posted. If the original group gets fixed I would be thrilled. I would love to see the new list's membership merged back into the original group, and then disbanded. There is no need for two groups--only one that works. But does anyone really think 911Console is on the verge of being fixed? When I said the new group would be a successor I was using a meaning of the word that was not in the definition someone quoted. A successor is also something that follows something else, especially when the predecessor is vacated. The US Constitution is the successor of the Articles of Confederation, and was certainly not a coup, or royal power grab. It fixed an obvious problem. In this case the vacancy is the absence of a group administrator, and the problem is its crippling effect on the group. The reason or legitimacy for the vacancy was never questioned. It is what it is. I intend to proceed as described, Everyone is welcome to participate if they want to. That is your choice. If not one person joins I could not care less. I will still know I did right thing, and made an honest attempt to help. 911Console is different from all the other groups in its size, range of experience, and breadth of topics and information. The new group is aimed at preserving that integrity and character. That much of the current group is not broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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