RE: Bill wants to help a sighted friend

December 24, 2006

Your friend needs to learn about glycation. What it is and how it affects

the body. Any bs over 120 rapidly speeds up the glycation process. Once

the glucose on the red blood cell is converted to sorbitol, it can no longer

transport oxygen. In effect the red blood cell is dead, and organs supplied

by these red blood cells experience oxygen deprivation. This is the reason

high blood sugars is the primary culprit in diabetic complications and

mostly complications of any kind.

Bill wants to help a sighted friend

>A friend of mine who is morbidly obese (almost 500 pounds) has been

> diagnosed with diabetes, and I'm trying to " coach " him on how to take care

> of himself before he gets any worse. But in his talks to me he says that

> in

> all his " reading " he has found that sugars are OK up to 200, and I've

> tried

> to tell him that no, 120 should be the limit. Can somebody please link me

> to, or e-mail something concrete on this so I can get the info to him

> pronto? In all I have seen, the new guidelines subscribe to the 120 limit

> and anything over is considered dangerous. I know he has a lot of weight

> but

> he needs to deal with the harsh reality of diabetes and not be pacified

> into

> thinking " it's OK if it's 200 or so. " His sister routinely runs sugars of

> 450-500 and doesn't even think about it, a sure fatality waiting to happen

> there.

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

> Bill Powers

>

December 24, 2006

I just read a very short blurb on this subject recently. It said that your

sugar should go no higher than 180 two hours after eating and should be 90

to 130 before eating. I've even read some reports that list lower numbers

than that as the ideal. So your friend is definitely diluting himself.

Becky

Bill wants to help a sighted friend

A friend of mine who is morbidly obese (almost 500 pounds) has been

diagnosed with diabetes, and I'm trying to " coach " him on how to take care

of himself before he gets any worse. But in his talks to me he says that in

all his " reading " he has found that sugars are OK up to 200, and I've tried

to tell him that no, 120 should be the limit. Can somebody please link me

to, or e-mail something concrete on this so I can get the info to him

pronto? In all I have seen, the new guidelines subscribe to the 120 limit

and anything over is considered dangerous. I know he has a lot of weight but

he needs to deal with the harsh reality of diabetes and not be pacified into

thinking " it's OK if it's 200 or so. " His sister routinely runs sugars of

450-500 and doesn't even think about it, a sure fatality waiting to happen

there.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Powers

December 24, 2006

Harry,

Thanks for that answer. I had forgotten the term for it but I knew that high

blood sugars would cause oxygen deprivation. I will pass that on to my

friend.

Bill

December 24, 2006

Becky,

Where have you even read that the numbers can go up to 180? Maybe I'm

looking in the wrong places but it would seem to me that we want to get the

numbers lower and keep them very close to the 120 upper limit at least.

I think what my friend is wanting is some kind of validation that his

illness is not as bad as it might be, and I just can't give him that. He has

been gaining weight steadily for years, and I know he's over 450 and

probably close to 500 pounds now. It took him a lot of years to finally

admit he's fat, but sometimes I still don't think he admits to himself he's

morbidly obese. He can tell me his sister is fat, but he just couldn't pin

that on himself for a number of years. I always worried that he was going to

become diabetic, and had hoped he was going to get really serious after a

heart attack about 1-1/2 years ago. That didn't do it. Now he is so big he

can't walk much, has leg edema, cellulitis in his legs, then now the

diabetes diagnosis, so he is just getting worse with no energy to do much

about it.

Oh and we won't even get into trying to get him on SSDI and SSI now, that's

been a nightmare including a doctor that won't fill out disability papers

for him unless he SEES that doctor and then the doc wants to charge him

extra for filling out a simple form he needs to get the money for doctor

visits and just living in general anyway. There's a soapbox that raises MY

blood pressure.

Anyway, back to my friend, I'm hoping he will finally get serious and do

something for himself, he doesn't have many options but if he doesn't do

something, I can only imagine what will happen down the road.

Let's keep him in our prayers that things will turn around for him.

Thanks and again, Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Happy, Healthy and

Prosperous New Year.

Bill Powers

December 24, 2006

Hi Becky,

I have read Bill's response to this and I am surprised Harry has not had a

stroke from these numbers.. (LOL)

Bill is correct, 160 is the *very* max your blood sugar should ever be for

any period of time unless you want more Diabetic complications.

Just divide your blood sugar by 18 and that will be pretty close to your 1C

reading....

You should keep your sugar below 120 for your 2 hour post meal readings....

Now Bill, as for your friend, I think he is is serious trouble to say the

very least.

Hang in there folks and please have a safe and happy Christmas

celebration...

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

_____

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