Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Harry, This is interesting but I still think there is some benefit fruit juices give that pop doesn't. It is not the sugar part that I disagree with and I do agree that solid food is better but you can't ignore the fact that juice has vitamins that pop does not. Wouldn't you agree? Ruth fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Ruth, you can get *all* the same nutrients/vitamins in slow acting carbo veggies like spinach, broccoli, avocado, Brusselssprouts, and so on that you can in fruit juices. It is a misconception to think that you need quick acting carbs of any sort to get nutrients. This is just not true. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Harry, Well, soda water is a far better choice, especially if it has just a wee smidgeon of the ish Dew... (LOL) Well, otherwise soda water with a wee bit of lime or lemon squeezed in is very thirst quenching. Cy, the well experienced Ancient Okie... fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi , Did you read the whole e-mail? If you did you would have got my point. I know that fruit juices are not the best. The point I was making was that fruit juice has vitamins and no caffeine which pop does not and does have caffeine which the article did not mention. So fruit juice is slightly better than pop which is just plain sugar and nothing else. Ruth Re: fruit juice Hi Ruth, you can get *all* the same nutrients/vitamins in slow acting carbo veggies like spinach, broccoli, avocado, Brusselssprouts, and so on that you can in fruit juices. It is a misconception to think that you need quick acting carbs of any sort to get nutrients. This is just not true. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I thought diabetics were not supposed to eat fruit juice at all, and what is wrong with diet soda? I'm enjoying this discussion. Vicki Breffe Rev 1:7 BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. Rev 1:8 " I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, " who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. " fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi Vicki diabetics are not to eat *any* quick acting carbohydrates according to Doctor Bernstein a type 1 diabetic doctor. Yes, diet soft drinks are fine. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yes, I read your post and people need to understand and be educated that the thought that we *must* eat quick acting fruits, or fruit juices, to get nutrients is rubbish. And no, fruit juice is in no way good for any diabetic. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi , You still miss my point. I don't drink juice unless I am having an insulin reaction. It just seems that this article missed a point about the vitamins and lack of caffeine which is a slight benefit from pop. I am not advocating drinking juice. Ruth Re: fruit juice Yes, I read your post and people need to understand and be educated that the thought that we *must* eat quick acting fruits, or fruit juices, to get nutrients is rubbish. And no, fruit juice is in no way good for any diabetic. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi Ruth, I understood your point. However, I will always explain information on list for people to have for knowledge sake. Some more info on drinking juice to combat lows... you might want to consider not drinking juice to combat a low sugar... it does not give measurable results. 1 glucose tablet will raze your sugar 15 to 20 points or 1.0 points canadian. So, for example, if your sugar is 3.0, eat 2 glucose tablets and it will raze you to 5.0 and you will not go past that and spike. On the flip side, if your sugar is 3.0 and you drink juice the only result you have is increasing your sugar but you have no way of knowing how much. All you know is that it will raze and more times then not you go out of range past 5.0 and that leads to non-normalized sugars. Bernstein talks about how to use glucose tablets to get mesurable results and to stay in range on his audio cds. Note: stating a single glucose tablet will raze your sugar 15 to 20 points, or 1.0 Canadian, is assuming you are not eating any quick acting carbs and dosing low amounts of insulin. I.E following Bernsteins routine to normalize sugars. If you eat quick acting carbs, dose larger amounts of humalog or novalog, then no, 1 glucose tablet will not raze you 15 to 20 points. Regards, fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Ruth, Juice is absolutely not good for anyone just becaue the amount of carbs in it. Plus the fact that when it is made, all fiber is taken out and as it often " cooked " in order to put it into a bottle or can, most the vitamins etc are taken out too. Fresh squeezed might be slightly, but it really is not good because of the high carbs. fruit juice Dear Dr. Mirkin: Are fruit juices a better choice for children and teens than soft drinks? Researchers at the University of Houston reviewed scientific studies to explain why sugared drinks make people fat. (Nutrition Review, April 2006) and concluded that sugared drinks do not fill people up as much as solid food does. So calories in drinks do not suppress appetite as effectively as calories in food. Soft drinks average seven teaspoons of sugar per 12-ounce serving, so for each soft drink a child takes in, he gets 140 calories that do not suppress appetite as much as the same number of calories in solid food. Since fruit juices contain as much sugar and calories as soft drinks, it makes no sense to substitute juices for soft drinks. It's far better to learn to drink water to quench thirst, and get calories, vitamins and other nutrients from solid foods. One way to get overweight children to take in fewer calories is to serve them sparkling mineral water or soda water, which has carbon dioxide bubbles and no calories. To many people, this bubbly water is more refreshing and tasty than ordinary water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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