Re: Raw milk and food poisoning

[Guest guest]

, I have always been taught that one was NOT to take milk on an upset

stomach. I here you loud and clear on the immigrant standards of health

practices! I would think that there are many instances such as with your

children,

many unreported. C R

In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:05:00 AM Central Standard Time,

haecklers@... writes:

> We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all night!). Raw

> milk contains antibodies or something that protects from e. coli and

> other bad bacteria, right?? Anybody know if it would settle a sick

> stomach or just come back up like everything else? MD has told me

> before (yes, why do I eat in those places??) to give a teaspoon of

> liquid every 15 min until they are able to hold things down. I was

> thinking of trying a teaspoon of raw milk instead of water, to try to

> get something healing in there.

>

> I have nothing against illegal immigrants, but a doctor friend told me

> that she's seen an awful lot of them in the restaurant industry who

> are very sick but don't take days off because they cannot afford to.

> I really should just stop eating out!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, My handle is 'Craicker' not Cracker. I've been called both and no

offence taken.

C R

In a message dated 12/4/2006 4:48:19 PM Central Standard Time,

efurbish@... writes:

> Hi Cracker,

>

> I know what you mean about those immigrants. First they've got some

> kind of exotic flu, then the next thing you know your kids have food

> poisoning! It's subtle, you almost wouldn't know they were connected.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all night!).

Raw

> milk contains antibodies or something that protects from e. coli and

> other bad bacteria, right?? Anybody know if it would settle a sick

> stomach or just come back up like everything else?

I just got over a long bout of stomach flu or food poisoning, whatever

it was... anyway, FWIW milk did not sound at all appetizing to me. How

about bone broths? Lots of good healing gelatin to sooth the

stomach/intestines, plus electrolytes, and it's easily digested.

Jill

[Guest guest]

, A friend of mine (a truck delivery employee with a well known company)

told me that in his day to day deliveries to restaurants the Oriental

establishments were filthy, their kitchen hygiene was the absolute worst. To

this day

he will not eat at a Chinese establishment. The last time I 'treated' myself

at my local Oriental restaurant, I paid special attention. I have new respect

for his advice and will not eat there again.

In respect to the immigrant mentions, I do not think the Orientals

were the Pinata. C R

In a message dated 12/4/2006 4:57:39 PM Central Standard Time,

cbrown2008@... writes:

> Hate to burst your immigrant bubble, but working sick is true of

> almost everyone in a restaurant kitchen starting with the executive

> chef. (except maybe super high end, or run by hypochondriacs, or

> hobby business where the workers don't need to work).

>

> Read " Kitchen Confidential " and take a gander at restaurant pay

> scales and sick day allowances (nonexistant!), and lots of people

> waiting to take the place of a fired person.

>

> Connie

>

>

> >

> > We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> > obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all night!).

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/4/2006 4:15:49 PM Central Standard Time,

illneverbecool@... writes:

> C R,

>

> Wasn't me who made that comment, no way. I prefer my food like my

> men: from a far away land and unclean.

> B.

Yikes....again!

Well I've been called spaced out and nasty..... C R

[Guest guest]

I'm not , I'm Renate, but thanks for the input.

My son tried raw milk, couldn't keep it down, and that's 4 hours

after his last episode, so I guess the advice you heard was right.

I did find a neat site that recommended 2 tablespoons of straight

vinegar to immediately cure food poisoning. I tried a swig and it

was awful, so for my daughter I mixed it half and half with water.

The site also recommended iodine, so I put in some of that. She

sipped it, and this is just after she was throwing up, and kept it

down then went into a deep sleep for hours then woke up with the

nausea gone. She had another " helping " of the vinegar water, no

iodine this time, took a bath and perked right up. She says it

cured her, though she's still tired from being up all night.

>

> , I have always been taught that one was NOT to take milk on

an upset

> stomach. I here you loud and clear on the immigrant standards of

health

> practices! I would think that there are many instances such as

with your children,

> many unreported. C R

>

> In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:05:00 AM Central Standard Time,

> haecklers@... writes:

>

>

> > We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> > obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all

night!). Raw

> > milk contains antibodies or something that protects from e. coli

and

> > other bad bacteria, right?? Anybody know if it would settle a

sick

> > stomach or just come back up like everything else? MD has told

me

> > before (yes, why do I eat in those places??) to give a teaspoon

of

> > liquid every 15 min until they are able to hold things down. I

was

> > thinking of trying a teaspoon of raw milk instead of water, to

try to

> > get something healing in there.

> >

> > I have nothing against illegal immigrants, but a doctor friend

told me

> > that she's seen an awful lot of them in the restaurant industry

who

> > are very sick but don't take days off because they cannot afford

to.

> > I really should just stop eating out!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

haecklers.....Renate,

why 'o why do I do that? I may have mentioned this before but on one of

my last fishing expeditions I fixed breakfast in camp one morning and sometime

afterwards I felt extremely nauseated, I immediately suspicioned the sausage

that I had eaten. The only thing I had available was vinegar which I took two

large gagging swigs of. Within a minute my stomach told me I had done the

right thing. Vinegar is my friend. C R

In a message dated 12/4/2006 2:30:43 PM Central Standard Time,

haecklers@... writes:

> I'm not , I'm Renate, but thanks for the input.

>

> My son tried raw milk, couldn't keep it down, and that's 4 hours

> after his last episode, so I guess the advice you heard was right.

>

> I did find a neat site that recommended 2 tablespoons of straight

> vinegar to immediately cure food poisoning. I tried a swig and it

> was awful, so for my daughter I mixed it half and half with water.

> The site also recommended iodine, so I put in some of that. She

> sipped it, and this is just after she was throwing up, and kept it

> down then went into a deep sleep for hours then woke up with the

> nausea gone. She had another " helping " of the vinegar water, no

> iodine this time, took a bath and perked right up. She says it

> cured her, though she's still tired from being up all night.

>

>

> >

> > , I have always been taught that one was NOT to take milk on

> an upset

[Guest guest]

>

> , I have always been taught that one was NOT to take milk on

an upset

> stomach. I here you loud and clear on the immigrant standards of health

> practices! I would think that there are many instances such as with

your children,

> many unreported.

C R,

Wasn't me who made that comment, no way. I prefer my food like my

men: from a far away land and unclean.

B.

[Guest guest]

On 12/4/06, craicker@... <craicker@...> wrote:

> I here you loud and clear on the immigrant standards of health

> practices! I would think that there are many instances such as with your

children,

> many unreported. C R

>

Hi Cracker,

I know what you mean about those immigrants. First they've got some

kind of exotic flu, then the next thing you know your kids have food

poisoning! It's subtle, you almost wouldn't know they were connected.

[Guest guest]

Hate to burst your immigrant bubble, but working sick is true of

almost everyone in a restaurant kitchen starting with the executive

chef. (except maybe super high end, or run by hypochondriacs, or

hobby business where the workers don't need to work).

Read " Kitchen Confidential " and take a gander at restaurant pay

scales and sick day allowances (nonexistant!), and lots of people

waiting to take the place of a fired person.

Connie

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all night!).

Raw

> milk contains antibodies or something that protects from e. coli

and

> other bad bacteria, right?? Anybody know if it would settle a sick

> stomach or just come back up like everything else? MD has told me

> before (yes, why do I eat in those places??) to give a teaspoon of

> liquid every 15 min until they are able to hold things down. I was

> thinking of trying a teaspoon of raw milk instead of water, to try

to

> get something healing in there.

>

> I have nothing against illegal immigrants, but a doctor friend told

me

> that she's seen an awful lot of them in the restaurant industry who

> are very sick but don't take days off because they cannot afford

to.

> I really should just stop eating out!

>

[Guest guest]

The kids don't want it, and it's a good batch, too, from our

Thanksgiving turkey!

>

> > We ate in a restaurant yesterday and last night both kids were

> > obviously suffering from food poisoning (every hour, all

night!).

> Raw

> > milk contains antibodies or something that protects from e. coli

and

> > other bad bacteria, right?? Anybody know if it would settle a

sick

> > stomach or just come back up like everything else?

>

> I just got over a long bout of stomach flu or food poisoning,

whatever

> it was... anyway, FWIW milk did not sound at all appetizing to me.

How

> about bone broths? Lots of good healing gelatin to sooth the

> stomach/intestines, plus electrolytes, and it's easily digested.

>

> Jill

>