Re: Help! 3 year old has cavities!

[Guest guest]

Renate,

Look into the group called Alternative Kids Teeth.

alternativekidsteeth-subscribe . This group has been a

valuable help to me in dealing with my 3.5yo daughter's similar dental

problems. We're working on remineralization with a multi-pronged approach.

1. CLO, BO, Concentrace in water.

2. Brushing after breakfast and dinner, using products such as Spry,

Oravive, Dr. 's tooth powder, tooth soap.

3. Cutting down drastically on carbs, and only in the meal before tooth

brushing.

4. Chewing xylitol gums or mints between meals.

5. Flossing nightly, since my daughter's cavities occur alone a line near

and under the gumline.

6. Eating raw dairy cheeses like cheddar for snacks- it help to clean the

teeth.

7. Brushing for a minimum of 2 minutes with each product.

8. Not eating sticky, dried fruits or other sticky foods when teeth can't

be immediately brushed.

I'm also looking into using iodine to kill the bad bacteria, but I haven't

settled on if and how yet.

HTH,

KerryAnn

http://www.cookingnt.com - new recipes being added right now!

http://krankedyann.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

Thank you so much! I will bookmark it now!

>

> Renate,

>

> Look into the group called Alternative Kids Teeth.

> alternativekidsteeth-subscribe This group has

been a

> valuable help to me in dealing with my 3.5yo daughter's similar

dental

> problems. We're working on remineralization with a multi-pronged

approach.

>

> 1. CLO, BO, Concentrace in water.

> 2. Brushing after breakfast and dinner, using products such as

Spry,

> Oravive, Dr. 's tooth powder, tooth soap.

> 3. Cutting down drastically on carbs, and only in the meal before

tooth

> brushing.

> 4. Chewing xylitol gums or mints between meals.

> 5. Flossing nightly, since my daughter's cavities occur alone a

line near

> and under the gumline.

> 6. Eating raw dairy cheeses like cheddar for snacks- it help to

clean the

> teeth.

> 7. Brushing for a minimum of 2 minutes with each product.

> 8. Not eating sticky, dried fruits or other sticky foods when

teeth can't

> be immediately brushed.

>

> I'm also looking into using iodine to kill the bad bacteria, but I

haven't

> settled on if and how yet.

>

> HTH,

> KerryAnn

> http://www.cookingnt.com - new recipes being added right now!

> http://krankedyann.blogspot.com

>

[Guest guest]

Renate - why in gawds name would you remove the pulp (the growth

center), unless it was either tumorous, gangrenous or infected beyond

salvation?

scott

--- In me.

>

> Freaking out!!!!

>

> Renate

>

[Guest guest]

KerryAnn and other parents,

My three year old is having similar problems (we were near vegan when

her first teeth were erupting. Were you following WAP when you were

pregnant with your little one who has cavities? I am just curious if

there are people out there who follow this diet and still have kids

who have cavities. I have looked at this diet as a bit of a cure-all,

but I do know it can be hard for us to truly eat " as the primitives "

as WAP says. Really, I am trying to justify the high cost of good

food to myself (firing the dentist and, down the road, the

orthodontist is certainly cost effective).... and I am kind of wanting

to know what to expect with our other children.

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[Guest guest]

> her first teeth were erupting. Were you following WAP when you were

> pregnant with your little one who has cavities? I am just curious if

> there are people out there who follow this diet and still have kids

> who have cavities. I have looked at this diet as a bit of a cure-all,

> but I do know it can be hard for us to truly eat " as the primitives "

> as WAP says. Really, I am trying to justify the high cost of good

> food to myself (firing the dentist and, down the road, the

> orthodontist is certainly cost effective).... and I am kind of wanting

> to know what to expect with our other children.

,

In my case, it looks like the problems were caused by me having a fever

while pregnant. The bad spots in her teeth are literally in a straight line

across the front four top teeth. All the cavities are forming within this

line. I was eating close to WAP, but was still consuming some soy and

pasturized milk. I didn't discover WAP until after her birth, and my son

doesn't have any dental issues (he's 17 months), but I didn't have a fever

while carrrying him, either. We didn't switch to raw milk until after his

birth. We now eat WAP 95% of the time.

At first, I did look to this as a cure all, and after a while I realized it

would not be so. There are many factors to health, what you eat is just one

portion of it. Many other things can contribute to and cause illness. I do

personally know people who have eaten this way for years who have or their

children have cavities, chronic health problems, or still catch bugs and

colds. Personally, I have found that eating this way lessens the severity

and duration of illness, but it doesn't eliminate it completely. To me, the

cost is ultimately worth it in better overall health in the long run, and

less exposure to chemicals and pesticides. But that doesn't necessarily

translate to perfect health for us and many others. Better health,

absolutely. Pefect health, no. But I feel like I have a choice- I can

spend the money in food now or higher doctor bills in the years to come.

I'd rather spend it in food, because you can't put a price tag on the

aggravation that comes with more severe illness later in life.

KerryAnn

http://www.cookingnt.com

http://krankedyann.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

When I was pregnant with him I was at the all-time low in my life

and eating lots of meals from 's and Mc's, so I guess

that's the source. In other words, no, I was far, far from WAP at

the time! It's really surprising that he turned out as well as he

did - aside from the weak teeth, he's a good-looking kid and seems

otherwise healthy.

>

> KerryAnn and other parents,

> My three year old is having similar problems (we were near vegan

when

> her first teeth were erupting. Were you following WAP when you

were

> pregnant with your little one who has cavities? I am just curious

if

> there are people out there who follow this diet and still have

kids

> who have cavities. I have looked at this diet as a bit of a cure-

all,

> but I do know it can be hard for us to truly eat " as the

primitives "

> as WAP says. Really, I am trying to justify the high cost of good

> food to myself (firing the dentist and, down the road, the

> orthodontist is certainly cost effective).... and I am kind of

wanting

> to know what to expect with our other children.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

My dentist pointed out that my 3 year old had her cavities all in a

line along the fronts of her teeth....and said it was due to a fever

during pregnancy as well. After reading Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration I am beginning to wonder if they just tell that to moms

to make them feel better. At the time it did make me feel

better....and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what I had

done wrong - I was the health food guru! My daughter ate tons of

veggies, soymilk, fruit, tons and tons of whole grains, maybe 1 egg

a month, virtually no animal fat, no juice but very occasional

sugar. Now I look back and almost laugh (I would, if I wasn't so

consumed with guilt)because - duh! No wonder!

Since we have begun to implement NT (almost a year now) she has had

no new cavities.

Our dentist has also told us not to share anything because of the S.

mutans infecting our other children. I am beginning to think they

may be off base with this as well.

KerryAnn, I am bothered that you followed NT the whole time. Huh,

that kind of blows a hole in some of my theories lately.

Well, I guess I am just going to have to research this more.

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[Guest guest]

>KerryAnn, I am bothered that you followed NT the whole time. Huh,

>that kind of blows a hole in some of my theories lately.

,

In my case, since I did have a fever while pregnant, I'm inclined to think

that at least in my case it is correct.

On a related note, I was also eating this way when I got pregnant with my

son and suffered through hyperemesis. I e-mailed into some groups about it,

and was basically chastized for eating garbage, when I wasn't! I was told

by more than one person if I'd just switch to a WAP diet, it would go away!

One person insisted if I'd just consume bone broths, I'd be fine. It's so

aggravating to be given soley nutritional advice to a multi-faceted problem

that is quite severe and threatens both you life and the life of your baby.

So after that, I definitely don't view diet as a cure-all. I think there's

much more to the side of needing to cleanse/detox, normalize functions and

balance hormones than what most WAPers do. Eating right will move you in

the right direction, but I don't think it does all of the work.

KerryAnn

http://www.cookingnt.com

http://krankedyann.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

KerryAnn, I think you are right. I guess I am feeling terrible about

my daughter's teeth and am wanting to feel that I have a little

control.

I get morning sickness for 1.5-2 weeks - I absolutely could not

imagine going through what you go through. I have had several friends

who suffer from hyperemesis gravidarum and have the utmost respect for

them. One of my friends just had her fifth child. I cannot imagine

going through that 5 times!

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[Guest guest]

Just jumping in here, I have to agree. Diet is not everything, but it

is one thing we can drastically improve. In my own case, I find my

health *improved* by eating WAP, but my mother smoked and ate sugar,

white bread, and drank during her pregnancy (not uncommon in the early

1950's!), and then couldn't nurse and fed me soy formula. So there's

only so much I can do to offset that.

It would probably take a couple of generations of really, really good

eating to eliminate the damage done by modern foods, and primitive

people used herbal medicines, too, it's not like they NEVER got sick,

but they didn't have the rampant numbers of chronically sick people

like we do now.

Ann

>

> >KerryAnn, I am bothered that you followed NT the whole time. Huh,

> >that kind of blows a hole in some of my theories lately.

>

> ,

>

> In my case, since I did have a fever while pregnant, I'm inclined to

think

> that at least in my case it is correct.

>

> On a related note, I was also eating this way when I got pregnant

with my

> son and suffered through hyperemesis. I e-mailed into some groups

about it,

> and was basically chastized for eating garbage, when I wasn't! I

was told

> by more than one person if I'd just switch to a WAP diet, it would

go away!

> One person insisted if I'd just consume bone broths, I'd be fine.

It's so

> aggravating to be given soley nutritional advice to a multi-faceted

problem

> that is quite severe and threatens both you life and the life of

your baby.

>

> So after that, I definitely don't view diet as a cure-all. I think

there's

> much more to the side of needing to cleanse/detox, normalize

functions and

> balance hormones than what most WAPers do. Eating right will move

you in

> the right direction, but I don't think it does all of the work.

>

> KerryAnn

> http://www.cookingnt.com

> http://krankedyann.blogspot.com

>