weight loss

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Chris-

> Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are

> excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite low.

I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low

enough to be dismissed.

-

[Guest guest]

Chris-

> second, he

> seemed pretty insulted that I politely criticized him in the footnote

> to a footnote (yes, really, it was not the footnote but the footnote

> of that footnote) of my one-meal--of-saturated-fat-a-day article,

> despite giving him props in the main text, and I'm not quite sure he

> ever got over that.

That's it in a nutshell. He seems to be one of those unfortunates

who's constitutionally incapable of brooking even the most polite

disagreement.

-

[Guest guest]

,

> > Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are

> > excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite low.

> I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low

> enough to be dismissed.

Hmm. Well it would be interesting to see a quantification of these

various different factors.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Chris-

I should probably add that I meant that in a clinical or scientific

sense; I'd guess that excretion isn't a large enough factor to make a

practical difference to people whose interest lies solely in losing

weight, though I suppose I could be wrong.

-

> > > Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are

> > > excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite

> low.

>

> > I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low

> > enough to be dismissed.

>

> Hmm. Well it would be interesting to see a quantification of these

> various different factors.

[Guest guest]

,

> I should probably add that I meant that in a clinical or scientific

> sense; I'd guess that excretion isn't a large enough factor to make a

> practical difference to people whose interest lies solely in losing

> weight, though I suppose I could be wrong.

Ah, I see. I was thinking in terms of making a practically meaningful

contribution to the metabolic advantage. Then again, some of the

things I mentioned may or may not be major contributors as well.

There is also the fact that there is some in vitro evidence that

ketones make cellular respiration *more efficient,* which could

compensate for waste via excretion if it occurs in vivo. But

efficient respiration could have a lot of benefits too. And if you

have lots of ATP, you can do lots of things like detox and make

anabolic hormones and stuff that you might not otherwise do. I really

think the main advantage is probably through hormonal influence and by

depriving adipose tissue fo the glycerol backbone for triglyceride

synthesis, but that's just my personal bias I guess, as I haven't seen

any data.

Chris

[Guest guest]

No, I wish.  Actually I did lose about 20 pounds when I tried the elimination

diet.  But gained most of it back when I added things back in. 

 

[ ] weight loss

I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you since have

lost weight

thanks

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I lost about 15 pounds, but it was from being anemic. I had a bleeding

ulcer from Aleve. I took prescription iron, and the weight came back

on, even though I was undergoing radiation treatments following a

lumpectomy for breast cancer.

I wish I could have kept those 15 pounds off. I'm not overweight, but

at the top number for my height.

Sue

On Saturday, October 11, 2008, at 05:50 PM, Kathy wrote:

> I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you

> since have lost weight

[Guest guest]

I wish!

in PA

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Kathy " <stepnitzcandles@...>

I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you since have

lost weight

thanks

Kathy

[Guest guest]

For any of you who have lost weight since starting your treatment for

RA, don't worry! I think I found it. Thanks to the Prednisone.

Grrrr.... If anyone is missing 15 pounds, you're welcome to have it

back. I don't want it nor do I need it. I have enough thank you.

Bob

>

> I wish!

>

> in PA

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " Kathy " <stepnitzcandles@...>

> I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of

you since have lost weight

> thanks

> Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy and ....

I feel like I've lost my appetite sometimes. I am around 120-125.. But I

have found that the craving for food has left me. I do remember my first rheumy

telling me that r/a can sometimes do that. Maybe it's the meds.

Hugs..a

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Dennis...like that diet commercial I see on tv where everyone loses weight

but the one who wants to.

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I run into that myself, I don't know why. Sometimes it's from the constant

pain. Other times I haven't a clue. I've been dropping weight for a few

months, and it makes my wife mad. She can't lose an ounce even though she

eats like a bird and tries to be active, and still gains overnight from a

glass of water.

Dennis in eastexas

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote:

> Kathy and ....

>

> I feel like I've lost my appetite sometimes. I am around 120-125.. But I

> have found that the craving for food has left me. I do remember my first

> rheumy

> telling me that r/a can sometimes do that. Maybe it's the meds.

>

> Hugs..a

>

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One day a long time ago, we took our 3 kids to the lake to teach them to

ski. I drove the boat and Betty was 'retriever'. After a full day of her

swimming almost non-stop, she gained a few pounds, and it wasn't water!

Dennis in eastexas

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote:

> Dennis...like that diet commercial I see on tv where everyone loses

> weight

> but the one who wants to.

>

> Hugs..a

>

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