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Mo,

You're never a pest. Glad to help or at least try to. I think I'll

start using the FitDay site again too, trying a new diet, and it'll

be easier if I use the site.

Linn

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> In a message dated 10/12/2006 20:29:09 GMT Standard Time,

> linnmiller@... writes:

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> You can click on the serving and it should have it listed by 1

> strawberry or by ounces, etc. You probably won't need a scale

> necessarily, usually under the serving size you can figure out things.

>

> Thanks Linn and sorry if I am being a pest, I have been having a go

> and yes

> it is quite illuminating though I am not yet sure how it translates

> across

> the pond........

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> Mo

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In a message dated 11/12/2006 19:54:08 GMT Standard Time,

esilver@... writes:

Mo, I'm no expert and you weren't even asking me these questions, but I'm

going to stick my big nose in here!

Hi there, I am very glad you did because it has been on my mind all day!

For what it's worth, it's my understanding that sodium levels fluctuate in

the body according to need,

Oh OK, I didn't know that.

and that the body naturally flushes excess sodium out via the kidneys. Your

one time high level could have been nothing more than your body retaining the

sodium while it was in the process of attracting the fluids you were

drinking to the cells ... because of the natural fluid loss from the summer

heat.

The main thing the docs were investigating at the time of this high sodium

reading was my problem which frequent urination at that time, plus high BP. It

turned out that I was probably taking too much Armour also. And the stupid

doc had been giving me diuretics in a heatwave and I also, stupidly, took them

because she scared me into it by shouting at me that I was going to die if I

did not take BP meds.

I read today that hyperT can raise BP so maybe that was why it was high all

of a sudden last summer. I have stopped checking it recently because it

stresses me out and seems counterproductive at this time.

I think your doc was unconcerned because a high sodium level is only of

concern if it is in tandem with specific altered chemical readings that

indicate

a malfunction in the body systems, or if it were to be consistently high over

a period of time ... which would be hard on the kidneys, though probably not

nearly as hard on them as most of those damned rx's!

OK, I see. They did do kidney function etc. and that was alright.

> I suppose that thought has been a strumbling block for me in taking more

> than I already am, though I am sprinkling with gusto it must be said and

> enjoying it very much indeed. Yum!

Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you

might consider that.

No and I will ask for this, thanks.

Of course if it were me, I'd probably add 1/4 t of sea salt to water twice a

day, and then have my sodium level tested in a couple of months. Then again,

I sometimes sea-saw between attitudes of " overly cautious " and " consequences

be damned " !!!!

I am probably salting my food with about that much. Do you think I should

put it in my water as well?

I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about it,

did he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

The GP did before this test when I first start having high BP readings and I

cannot remmeber what the other doc said when I questioned the high sodium.

They did not bring it up as an issue at all. That was me.

Thanks for posting on this, I have been feeling worried and confused about

how to proceed..

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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In a message dated 11/12/2006 19:54:08 GMT Standard Time,

esilver@... writes:

Mo, I'm no expert and you weren't even asking me these questions, but I'm

going to stick my big nose in here!

Hi there, I am very glad you did because it has been on my mind all day!

For what it's worth, it's my understanding that sodium levels fluctuate in

the body according to need,

Oh OK, I didn't know that.

and that the body naturally flushes excess sodium out via the kidneys. Your

one time high level could have been nothing more than your body retaining the

sodium while it was in the process of attracting the fluids you were

drinking to the cells ... because of the natural fluid loss from the summer

heat.

The main thing the docs were investigating at the time of this high sodium

reading was my problem which frequent urination at that time, plus high BP. It

turned out that I was probably taking too much Armour also. And the stupid

doc had been giving me diuretics in a heatwave and I also, stupidly, took them

because she scared me into it by shouting at me that I was going to die if I

did not take BP meds.

I read today that hyperT can raise BP so maybe that was why it was high all

of a sudden last summer. I have stopped checking it recently because it

stresses me out and seems counterproductive at this time.

I think your doc was unconcerned because a high sodium level is only of

concern if it is in tandem with specific altered chemical readings that

indicate

a malfunction in the body systems, or if it were to be consistently high over

a period of time ... which would be hard on the kidneys, though probably not

nearly as hard on them as most of those damned rx's!

OK, I see. They did do kidney function etc. and that was alright.

> I suppose that thought has been a strumbling block for me in taking more

> than I already am, though I am sprinkling with gusto it must be said and

> enjoying it very much indeed. Yum!

Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you

might consider that.

No and I will ask for this, thanks.

Of course if it were me, I'd probably add 1/4 t of sea salt to water twice a

day, and then have my sodium level tested in a couple of months. Then again,

I sometimes sea-saw between attitudes of " overly cautious " and " consequences

be damned " !!!!

I am probably salting my food with about that much. Do you think I should

put it in my water as well?

I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about it,

did he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

The GP did before this test when I first start having high BP readings and I

cannot remmeber what the other doc said when I questioned the high sodium.

They did not bring it up as an issue at all. That was me.

Thanks for posting on this, I have been feeling worried and confused about

how to proceed..

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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In a message dated 11/12/2006 21:09:04 GMT Standard Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

You do need to make sure you're drinking water when taking sea salt.

You don't have to dissolve it in water, if you're using it on your

food, just make sure and add in extra water during the day.

Thanks Linn

Make sense to take it in your water i suppose because that way you don't

forget the water part of the equation which I am likely to do.

Which I DO!

thanks for the timely reminder.

Mo

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In a message dated 11/12/2006 21:09:04 GMT Standard Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

You do need to make sure you're drinking water when taking sea salt.

You don't have to dissolve it in water, if you're using it on your

food, just make sure and add in extra water during the day.

Thanks Linn

Make sense to take it in your water i suppose because that way you don't

forget the water part of the equation which I am likely to do.

Which I DO!

thanks for the timely reminder.

Mo

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mo

> So do you think that even with over the range sodium levels that I should be

> doing more than sprinkling Celtic seasalt on my food at table and in the

> cooking?

> I am wondering if it could possibly do me any harm. Not the seasalt but if

> it drives my sodium levels up further.

Mo, I'm no expert and you weren't even asking me these questions, but I'm going

to stick my big nose in here!

For what it's worth, it's my understanding that sodium levels fluctuate in the

body according to need, and that the body naturally flushes excess sodium out

via the kidneys. Your one time high level could have been nothing more than

your body retaining the sodium while it was in the process of attracting the

fluids you were drinking to the cells ... because of the natural fluid loss

from the summer heat. I think your doc was unconcerned because a high sodium

level is only of concern if it is in tandem with specific altered chemical

readings that indicate a malfunction in the body systems, or if it were to be

consistently high over a period of time ... which would be hard on the kidneys,

though probably not nearly as hard on them as most of those damned rx's!

> I suppose that thought has been a strumbling block for me in taking more

> than I already am, though I am sprinkling with gusto it must be said and

> enjoying it very much indeed. Yum!

Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you might

consider that. Of course if it were me, I'd probably add 1/4 t of sea salt to

water twice a day, and then have my sodium level tested in a couple of months.

Then again, I sometimes sea-saw between attitudes of " overly cautious " and

" consequences be damned " !!!!

I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about it, did

he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

Liz

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From: Mo

> So do you think that even with over the range sodium levels that I should be

> doing more than sprinkling Celtic seasalt on my food at table and in the

> cooking?

> I am wondering if it could possibly do me any harm. Not the seasalt but if

> it drives my sodium levels up further.

Mo, I'm no expert and you weren't even asking me these questions, but I'm going

to stick my big nose in here!

For what it's worth, it's my understanding that sodium levels fluctuate in the

body according to need, and that the body naturally flushes excess sodium out

via the kidneys. Your one time high level could have been nothing more than

your body retaining the sodium while it was in the process of attracting the

fluids you were drinking to the cells ... because of the natural fluid loss

from the summer heat. I think your doc was unconcerned because a high sodium

level is only of concern if it is in tandem with specific altered chemical

readings that indicate a malfunction in the body systems, or if it were to be

consistently high over a period of time ... which would be hard on the kidneys,

though probably not nearly as hard on them as most of those damned rx's!

> I suppose that thought has been a strumbling block for me in taking more

> than I already am, though I am sprinkling with gusto it must be said and

> enjoying it very much indeed. Yum!

Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you might

consider that. Of course if it were me, I'd probably add 1/4 t of sea salt to

water twice a day, and then have my sodium level tested in a couple of months.

Then again, I sometimes sea-saw between attitudes of " overly cautious " and

" consequences be damned " !!!!

I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about it, did

he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

Liz

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Mo,

You do need to make sure you're drinking water when taking sea salt.

You don't have to dissolve it in water, if you're using it on your

food, just make sure and add in extra water during the day.

Linn

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Mo,

You do need to make sure you're drinking water when taking sea salt.

You don't have to dissolve it in water, if you're using it on your

food, just make sure and add in extra water during the day.

Linn

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 01:00:18 GMT Standard Time,

esilver@... writes:

Hi Liz

Are you still on BP rx? For some reason, I think you said no.

No I am off them now, about a couple of months.

Before you

stopped taking the bp, was it down in normal range, or still elevated?

Still elevated but there is where I suspect the possibility anyway of being

hyperthyroid and that maybe what raised it. It had been borderline for about

two or three years.

This will be interesting; let us know the results, okay?

Yes I will for sure.

Not sure this is relevant, but my mom recently had a heart attack, has bp

that bounces between normal and high, and since heart attack is back on bp

meds. The cardiologist told her no salt, but when she told him she doesn't

salt food when cooking but liberally salts before eating with Sea Salt, he

said that was okay .... then again, he put her on statins and didn't tell

her to use fish oil, so I'm not sure what I think of him and his advice!!!

Hope you mother is OK now? Must have been scary.

If you're worried, I personally would certainly not add more sea salt than

you're using in your food ... but worrying is counter-productive as I assume

it can stress the adrenals, so maybe get your sodium level checked as soon

as possible so you can QUIT worrying??? Just my ideas, and again, remember,

I'm no expert!

Do do alright girl!

Ooh - ooh - ooh! I almost forgot! When you signed off yesterday saying

you'd eaten some chocolate bars recently, that reminded me that when I was

having the palps I'd been not good about avoiding sugar. I'm wondering if

sugar and/or chocolate could stress the adrenals and initiate palps?

I did wonder about that myself. Hmmmmm. Maybe the chocolate if anything

more so than actual sugar methinks, if at all. Though I did have the same

thought as you last week.

If so,

that WOULD be a way to finally keep me away from the sugar ... I hate those

palps!

Me too and I LURVE that choccie! lol I don't usually eat that much

chocolate. Stress-related.

Mo

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 01:00:18 GMT Standard Time,

esilver@... writes:

Hi Liz

Are you still on BP rx? For some reason, I think you said no.

No I am off them now, about a couple of months.

Before you

stopped taking the bp, was it down in normal range, or still elevated?

Still elevated but there is where I suspect the possibility anyway of being

hyperthyroid and that maybe what raised it. It had been borderline for about

two or three years.

This will be interesting; let us know the results, okay?

Yes I will for sure.

Not sure this is relevant, but my mom recently had a heart attack, has bp

that bounces between normal and high, and since heart attack is back on bp

meds. The cardiologist told her no salt, but when she told him she doesn't

salt food when cooking but liberally salts before eating with Sea Salt, he

said that was okay .... then again, he put her on statins and didn't tell

her to use fish oil, so I'm not sure what I think of him and his advice!!!

Hope you mother is OK now? Must have been scary.

If you're worried, I personally would certainly not add more sea salt than

you're using in your food ... but worrying is counter-productive as I assume

it can stress the adrenals, so maybe get your sodium level checked as soon

as possible so you can QUIT worrying??? Just my ideas, and again, remember,

I'm no expert!

Do do alright girl!

Ooh - ooh - ooh! I almost forgot! When you signed off yesterday saying

you'd eaten some chocolate bars recently, that reminded me that when I was

having the palps I'd been not good about avoiding sugar. I'm wondering if

sugar and/or chocolate could stress the adrenals and initiate palps?

I did wonder about that myself. Hmmmmm. Maybe the chocolate if anything

more so than actual sugar methinks, if at all. Though I did have the same

thought as you last week.

If so,

that WOULD be a way to finally keep me away from the sugar ... I hate those

palps!

Me too and I LURVE that choccie! lol I don't usually eat that much

chocolate. Stress-related.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 01:38:42 GMT Standard Time,

cccquilter@... writes:

Actually water is a large part of the equation.

Yep CC, I will be more diligent in future.

Mo

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 01:38:42 GMT Standard Time,

cccquilter@... writes:

Actually water is a large part of the equation.

Yep CC, I will be more diligent in future.

Mo

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----- Original Message -----

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> I have stopped checking it recently because it

> stresses me out and seems counterproductive at this time.

>

Are you still on BP rx? For some reason, I think you said no. Before you

stopped taking the bp, was it down in normal range, or still elevated?

>

> Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you

> might consider that.

> No and I will ask for this, thanks.

This will be interesting; let us know the results, okay?

>

> I am probably salting my food with about that much. Do you think I should

> put it in my water as well?

Nah, I agree with Linn, IF you're getting that much salting your food, you

probably don't need more ... and make sure you drink plenty of water.

>

> I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about

> it,

> did he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

> The GP did before this test when I first start having high BP readings

Not sure this is relevant, but my mom recently had a heart attack, has bp

that bounces between normal and high, and since heart attack is back on bp

meds. The cardiologist told her no salt, but when she told him she doesn't

salt food when cooking but liberally salts before eating with Sea Salt, he

said that was okay .... then again, he put her on statins and didn't tell

her to use fish oil, so I'm not sure what I think of him and his advice!!!

> Thanks for posting on this, I have been feeling worried and confused about

> how to proceed..

If you're worried, I personally would certainly not add more sea salt than

you're using in your food ... but worrying is counter-productive as I assume

it can stress the adrenals, so maybe get your sodium level checked as soon

as possible so you can QUIT worrying??? Just my ideas, and again, remember,

I'm no expert!

Ooh - ooh - ooh! I almost forgot! When you signed off yesterday saying

you'd eaten some chocolate bars recently, that reminded me that when I was

having the palps I'd been not good about avoiding sugar. I'm wondering if

sugar and/or chocolate could stress the adrenals and initiate palps? If so,

that WOULD be a way to finally keep me away from the sugar ... I hate those

palps!

Liz

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> I have stopped checking it recently because it

> stresses me out and seems counterproductive at this time.

>

Are you still on BP rx? For some reason, I think you said no. Before you

stopped taking the bp, was it down in normal range, or still elevated?

>

> Has your sodium level been rechecked since that high reading? If not, you

> might consider that.

> No and I will ask for this, thanks.

This will be interesting; let us know the results, okay?

>

> I am probably salting my food with about that much. Do you think I should

> put it in my water as well?

Nah, I agree with Linn, IF you're getting that much salting your food, you

probably don't need more ... and make sure you drink plenty of water.

>

> I've forgotten, when you got that high reading and asked the doc about

> it,

> did he/she tell you to restrict sodium?

> The GP did before this test when I first start having high BP readings

Not sure this is relevant, but my mom recently had a heart attack, has bp

that bounces between normal and high, and since heart attack is back on bp

meds. The cardiologist told her no salt, but when she told him she doesn't

salt food when cooking but liberally salts before eating with Sea Salt, he

said that was okay .... then again, he put her on statins and didn't tell

her to use fish oil, so I'm not sure what I think of him and his advice!!!

> Thanks for posting on this, I have been feeling worried and confused about

> how to proceed..

If you're worried, I personally would certainly not add more sea salt than

you're using in your food ... but worrying is counter-productive as I assume

it can stress the adrenals, so maybe get your sodium level checked as soon

as possible so you can QUIT worrying??? Just my ideas, and again, remember,

I'm no expert!

Ooh - ooh - ooh! I almost forgot! When you signed off yesterday saying

you'd eaten some chocolate bars recently, that reminded me that when I was

having the palps I'd been not good about avoiding sugar. I'm wondering if

sugar and/or chocolate could stress the adrenals and initiate palps? If so,

that WOULD be a way to finally keep me away from the sugar ... I hate those

palps!

Liz

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Actually water is a large part of the equation. You need the natural salt with

its blend of minerals for your body, but you need the water, and lots of it, so

that you don't RETAIN it. I often forget to drink my water when I get really

busy, like during closing every month (I work in accounting), but if you don't

get enough water, your body will glom onto every drop you drink and retain it

and you will get puffy. Now the sea salt will help your body because you will

have enough salt/minerals floating around that it won't NEED to hold on to it

b/c it is deficient. The body basically knows what to do, we just need to give

it what it needs to do everything it does so well! That is where we most often

fail. Take in enough water, salt, minerals, nutrients to nourish your body, plus

whatever hormones you need, and your body will do its work the way it is

supposed to. Western style eating habits don't encourage our bodies to work

properly b/c a western style diet is so deficient,

except in the things we don't need more of!

C.

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Actually water is a large part of the equation. You need the natural salt with

its blend of minerals for your body, but you need the water, and lots of it, so

that you don't RETAIN it. I often forget to drink my water when I get really

busy, like during closing every month (I work in accounting), but if you don't

get enough water, your body will glom onto every drop you drink and retain it

and you will get puffy. Now the sea salt will help your body because you will

have enough salt/minerals floating around that it won't NEED to hold on to it

b/c it is deficient. The body basically knows what to do, we just need to give

it what it needs to do everything it does so well! That is where we most often

fail. Take in enough water, salt, minerals, nutrients to nourish your body, plus

whatever hormones you need, and your body will do its work the way it is

supposed to. Western style eating habits don't encourage our bodies to work

properly b/c a western style diet is so deficient,

except in the things we don't need more of!

C.

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