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I received a three month dose last November 20th and

the effects are just now wearing off. Hot flashes and

total loss of libido were the main side effects. Just

had another PSA test and am awaiting the results.

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I received a three month dose last November 20th and

the effects are just now wearing off. Hot flashes and

total loss of libido were the main side effects. Just

had another PSA test and am awaiting the results.

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I received a three month dose last November 20th and

the effects are just now wearing off. Hot flashes and

total loss of libido were the main side effects. Just

had another PSA test and am awaiting the results.

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Tom,

The Lupron was to shrink the size of my prostate prior

to brachytherapy. Mine was just over what the

radiation oncologist considered optimum for the

procedure.

In the meantime, I reconsidered and decided to go on

an active surveillance program instead.

My numbers were PSA 4.9, Gleeson (3+3), one core of

twelve with 5% involvement.

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Tom,

The Lupron was to shrink the size of my prostate prior

to brachytherapy. Mine was just over what the

radiation oncologist considered optimum for the

procedure.

In the meantime, I reconsidered and decided to go on

an active surveillance program instead.

My numbers were PSA 4.9, Gleeson (3+3), one core of

twelve with 5% involvement.

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i was given " trelstar " (spelling?) same as lupron but i think

cheaper. i have no insurance and it cost me 800.00 for a 3mo

injection.

then i moved from florida to ohio to get medicaid 30 radiation

treatments and 106 seeds in 07. psa now is 1.64 from 11.8. dr is

happy so far.

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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i was given " trelstar " (spelling?) same as lupron but i think

cheaper. i have no insurance and it cost me 800.00 for a 3mo

injection.

then i moved from florida to ohio to get medicaid 30 radiation

treatments and 106 seeds in 07. psa now is 1.64 from 11.8. dr is

happy so far.

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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i was given " trelstar " (spelling?) same as lupron but i think

cheaper. i have no insurance and it cost me 800.00 for a 3mo

injection.

then i moved from florida to ohio to get medicaid 30 radiation

treatments and 106 seeds in 07. psa now is 1.64 from 11.8. dr is

happy so far.

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

" In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier. "

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

" In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier. "

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

" In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier. "

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Tom,

I am 63 years old, 64 in September.

My insurance covered the Lupron. Accodring to the paperwork I got it

cost $1800.00! I couldn't believe it!

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Tom,

I use the following link to check drug costs. The prices from

this site are very close to what my US pharmacy lists as actual drug

costs.

http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/home

-Darren

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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At 4:18 PM +0000 5/31/08, Darren Cole wrote:

>Tom,

>

>I use the following link to check drug costs. The prices from

>this site are very close to what my US pharmacy lists as actual drug

>costs.

>

>http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/home

>

>-Darren

>

>

Here is another drug price comparison site, DestinationRx. It is used

by Consumer Reports health web site for prescription drug shopping.

The retail prices for Lupron it shows vary by the dose but are about

$1600 per month of stated effectiveness.

http://www.drx.com

Note, the stated time of effectiveness is the minimum. My " 4-month "

dose is still suppressing testosterone at 6 months out, by monthly

blood testosterone level checks. You only need to get the next dose

when the check shows testosterone is rising above the " castrate

level " .

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At 4:18 PM +0000 5/31/08, Darren Cole wrote:

>Tom,

>

>I use the following link to check drug costs. The prices from

>this site are very close to what my US pharmacy lists as actual drug

>costs.

>

>http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/home

>

>-Darren

>

>

Here is another drug price comparison site, DestinationRx. It is used

by Consumer Reports health web site for prescription drug shopping.

The retail prices for Lupron it shows vary by the dose but are about

$1600 per month of stated effectiveness.

http://www.drx.com

Note, the stated time of effectiveness is the minimum. My " 4-month "

dose is still suppressing testosterone at 6 months out, by monthly

blood testosterone level checks. You only need to get the next dose

when the check shows testosterone is rising above the " castrate

level " .

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Laurel

I'm back. Thanks for the input. After a long conversation he had some excellent thoughts on the benefits but at the end of the day the risks outweighed the small possible undocumented percentage benefit and we moved on. I'll update you later on where I am currently at.

Tom

Re: Lupron

Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

"In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier."

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with

> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Laurel

I'm back. Thanks for the input. After a long conversation he had some excellent thoughts on the benefits but at the end of the day the risks outweighed the small possible undocumented percentage benefit and we moved on. I'll update you later on where I am currently at.

Tom

Re: Lupron

Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

"In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier."

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with

> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Laurel

I'm back. Thanks for the input. After a long conversation he had some excellent thoughts on the benefits but at the end of the day the risks outweighed the small possible undocumented percentage benefit and we moved on. I'll update you later on where I am currently at.

Tom

Re: Lupron

Tom, I came across this (below) about Lupron prior to EBRT and or

seed implant. Also you should know that it often takes longer for the

side effects to wear off than men are told by the docs. I have read

that a single shot of Lupron can cost around $1,000. This says that

for seed implantation a prostate should be no larger than 50 ccs. I

know that that it can be larger for protons. Somewhere in my mind I

have the number at 68 or less?

I would make very sure that I had a good medical rationale regarding

the recommendation to have Lupron.

"In some men hormone therapy, also known as androgen deprivation

therapy, is given in the form of Lupron prior to starting treatment

with radiotherapy. Prostate cancer depends on testosterone, the male

hormone, to grow and to flourish. When testosterone is removed, the

prostate cancer cells become quiet. There is some evidence which

suggests that prostate cancer cells are more sensitive to external

radiation when testosterone is absent. There are a variety of ways to

remove testosterone on a temporary or permanent basis. One of the

most commonly used approaches involves the administration of Lupron.

Lupron is a intramuscular injection, which is given in the buttocks.

Typically a 4 month Depo Lupron injection is used. After the

injection, the body does not make testosterone for the next 4 months.

Without testosterone the PSA typically declines significantly and the

prostate cancer cells become inactive. Effects associated with Lupron

therapy include loss of libido (sexual drive and interest) and

diminished or absent of erection. Hot flashes occur in approximately

50% of the men. These side effects of Lupron typically resolve once

the effect of the Lupron has subsided.

Lupron is also used in some men to decrease the size of the prostate.

Prostate size is an important factor in selecting men as candidates

for seed implant. Ideally, the prostate should be less than 50 cc in

volume. When the prostate is less than 50 cc, seed implantation is

technically easier because the pubic bone is not in the way during

the placement of the needles to introduce the seeds. For those men

whose prostates are larger than 50 cc in size, pretreatment with

Lupron may be carried out to reduce the size of the prostate to make

subsequent seed implant easier."

>

>

>

> Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how old

are you?

> I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with Lupron?

Does the

> drug cost a lot?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with

> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

>

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Laurel. MD. Outstanding facility. Outstanding staff. Two surprises. My workup

did not include a pod. I thought everyone got a pod? Also they just installed a

new beam nozzle and software pkg. Only one in US. One other in Switzerland. They

want me to go on that machine. Im a little hesitant because it is so new. Have

you heard anything about this technology? Tom

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Re: Lupron

Tom, I'm glad to hear that you have come to a satisfactory conclusion

regarding the Lupron question. I have been wracking my brain to

remember where it is you are back from? I feel as though I should

know. Please do update me as to where you are in the process.

Laurel

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how

old

> are you?

> > I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with

Lupron?

> Does the

> > drug cost a lot?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **************

> > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> > (http://food. <http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;amp;>

aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> > ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

> >

>

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Laurel. MD. Outstanding facility. Outstanding staff. Two surprises. My workup

did not include a pod. I thought everyone got a pod? Also they just installed a

new beam nozzle and software pkg. Only one in US. One other in Switzerland. They

want me to go on that machine. Im a little hesitant because it is so new. Have

you heard anything about this technology? Tom

Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.

Re: Lupron

Tom, I'm glad to hear that you have come to a satisfactory conclusion

regarding the Lupron question. I have been wracking my brain to

remember where it is you are back from? I feel as though I should

know. Please do update me as to where you are in the process.

Laurel

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how

old

> are you?

> > I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with

Lupron?

> Does the

> > drug cost a lot?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **************

> > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> > (http://food. <http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;amp;>

aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> > ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

> >

>

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Tom, I'm glad to hear that you have come to a satisfactory conclusion

regarding the Lupron question. I have been wracking my brain to

remember where it is you are back from? I feel as though I should

know. Please do update me as to where you are in the process.

Laurel

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks. Active surveillance sure is tempting. If I may ask; how

old

> are you?

> > I'm 59. One more question - is there an economic issue with

Lupron?

> Does the

> > drug cost a lot?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **************

> > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

> > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4 & amp;

> > ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

> >

>

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