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In a message dated 5/22/01 3:15:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< Will follow with raw goat's milk- Yuck...

Thanks again for all the ideas...we'll see....

tansy

>>

Actually, Tansy, raw goat's milk is nice. We used to drink it all the time

when we had goats (maybe that is why I was well for years) husband also made

goat cheese.

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> In a message dated 5/22/01 3:15:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

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> << Will follow with raw goat's milk- Yuck...

>

> Thanks again for all the ideas...we'll see....

> tansy

> >>

> Actually, Tansy, raw goat's milk is nice. We used to drink

> it all the time

> when we had goats (maybe that is why I was well for years)

Could be...I am planning on adding chocolate- makes everything good <g>

> husband also made

> goat cheese.

Now that I like...any cheese receipes you could send me off list? thanks

tansy

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In a message dated 12/31/2001 12:46:05 AM,

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<< Message: 19

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:22:18 -0000

From: " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1824

> I very much appreciate your concern. I hope to chelate again at the

lower

> dosage you recommend - and slowly. But I am waiting for all the

strange

> behaviors to go away. My fear is that they may not. It has been a

long time

> since we pulled off everything and began antifungals. I wonder if

going ahead

> anyway after I make sure the yeast and bugs are under control is

safe. Do you

> think its too risky to go ahead if the behaviors haven't completely

gone?

> Ana Wells

This will be a difficult decision since there are always risks, but

never certainties.

I think it is likely that chelating properly will help him improve,

and that the last time around may have been too harsh and he may not

be able to improve past a certain point without more chelation.

The fact that it came on suddenly 9 days after a chelation round does

make me wonder if it was the chelation or something else. It is

unlikely we will ever be sure, and the only safe assumption is that

the chelation caused the problem and thus that you need to be very

careful of it in the future.

I hope you continue to give him a few useful supplements (which is

essential during chelation). Remember that the vitamin C, B complex,

and other water solubles are not very helpful unless you give them 4

times a day.

Andy

>>

Andy

Our DAN doc gave us Vit C supplements but didn't mention water soluble.

Should we break each daily dosage down to 4 parts ?

Also, after reading about a few moms who saw problems after adding ALA, can

you see any reason for the ALA to cause such regression in several of the

kids on the list? Is the mercury getting slushed around maybe?

Finally, since Lead is our main culprit - Is ALA maybe a bad idea now? Should

we wait for tests to show mercury coming out with DSMA only ? I know

DMSA(chemet) chelates for lead but is ALA really good for lead too?

A.Wells

Noahs mom

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Well, I can't answer the question about why wool is better than cotton but I

think I can shed some light about the oil going to the colon. If you absorb

ANYTHING through your skin, doesn't the blood circulate it through the body

and, ultimately, dump it in your colon to move it out of your body if it's

not supposed to be there? (Well, some things go to the kidneys to get

filtered out, sure, but face it, there are only so many ways to excrete

stuff from our bodies).

Don't know if that's the true answer but that's my 2 cents worth.

-

> From: a C <happyyogi2003@...>

> Subject: Castor oil packs

>

> Anyways, most of the time I can understand logically a

> remedy...but this one, and I am not doubting it...I

> don't understand the particulars. Why does one have to

> use wool flannel as opposed to cotton fabric and how

> does the castor oil penetrate the skin to the colon?

> That's really wild to me that it goes that deep! And

> wonder, do all oils go that deep or is it only Castor

> oil? But why the wool flannel? It's a mystery.

>

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I've been on the flaxseed oil lists (both) for almost four years and have

seen the changes... and the hairsplitting THe microbial culture used in making

American cottage cheese is different than that used in the making of the German

Quark.

I make yoghurt for decades and make it to the consistency of cheese, cottage

or otherwise. In yoghurt and kefir making, I have used any number of

beneficial cultures.

When my farm was active, we also used to make a yoghurt-based cheesecake....

our yoghurt was firm enough for that.... a substitute for store bought cream

cheese.

I won't press the point here any more.

The flaxseedoil2 list benefits from Wilhelm's knowledge of German and

willingness to translate some of her other works.

mjh

In a message dated 8/27/2004 9:34:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:29:06 -0000

From: " Olson " <sanols02@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1826 -Budwig Diet

Hi mjh,

We had a lengthy discussion about this on the FlaxseedOil2 group

during the first weeks of July. Even though the words you mention

are on a page in one of the English translated books, Wilhelm,

the FO2 moderator, who is extremely knowledgeable about Dr. Budwig's

books and works, says that the info you refer to is on what seems

to be an editor's page and is not in the German version of the book.

He points out that in the book that came out in '99, yogurt was

mentioned to Dr. Budwig as a possible substitute, and she said

that she gave no advice. Wilhelm believes that if she would have

recommended yogurt, this is where she would have said so. She did

not. I even phoned Bill as someone noted that he says

Dr. Budwig recommends yogurt. He sent me an email saying that he

went back through his Budwig books and couldn't find that she did

recommend it. He said he believed he got that the idea of including

yogurt as a substitute from the FO2 group back in it's early days

simply because somone was using it. I pasted his email in a message

to the FO2 group in July.

After all this discussion, Wilhelm changed the files to read that

Dr. Budwig never recommended using yogurt. She used only quark with

her patients. Our closest equivalent is cottage cheese. It's believed

that yogurt or other substitutes do not have the density to take up

to oil properly and cause it to be carried into the cells as well.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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> No matter where we are........we're in touch. It's Tallahasssee, FL and I was

checking hotels and remembered I could dig out my mail.

How is Charlie today and of course, you?

It's even hotter here in North Florida than home in South Florida. Taking I-10

will carry us along the southern route and that means heat all the way.

I'm going to try and contact Vince again.....not sure I can find him in CA????

If you have his phone numbers please post them to me and I'll call.

If I don't have to get off the hotel computer I'll be back.

Joe

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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of a good doctor for hypothyroid in Austin, Texas? I just

moved here, and I had an appointment already with one doctor who REFUSED to

continue my prescription for the Cytomel I have been on for 3 years now! She

said she only will write for Levoxyl. This is very frustrating for me because

the T3 meds are what makes me feel better. I was on Levoxyl only for 5 years

and still had symptoms. The hypo symptoms finally went away when my doctor

added Cytomel to the Lexovyl. Now I have moved across the country and need to

find a new doctor...I feel like I have to start all over again...if anyone knows

of a good doctor in Austin or San or the surrounding area I'd appreciate

it.

Thanks,

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 07:21:18 -0000

From: " bcbmsts "

Subject: Re: Did your hypothyroid symptoms start suddenly?

In retrospect now that I know for sure I have it, I think minor

symptoms started for me years ago but they were not severe enough to

realize. Approx. a year before my diagnosis I started getting

really sick. One bout of strep throat after another, mono, when I

didn't have strep throat, I had a cold, I had a miscarriage, heart

palpitations, severe allergy attacks, asthma attacks, and despite

being loaded up with all types of antibiotics and allergy

medications I kept getting sick. I was going to the gym every day &

working out & trying all kinds of diets, I could not loose even a

pound. I was at my heaviest weight ever. During that time I was

soooo tired that I couldn't function. I would fall asleep at the

dining room table doing homework with my kids. I had brought up

being hypo to the doc. He told me I was depressed and had anxiety

and there was nothing wrong with my thyroid. (I have never been

depressed,nor do I have anxiety!) Months later, after going to the

emergency room for an asthma attack, the very thorough doc who

treated me tested my thyroid and sure enough, it was what I thought

I had a year ago!

>

> Hi

>

> I just wanted to know how many of you who are hypothyroid actually

> had a sudden onset of symptoms? What was it like? Was it like you

> had a virus or something? Or, did it just creep up on you over many

> months?

>

> martin

Hi, I had a sudden onset of symptoms. I thought I was dying! My

skin started swelling up really tight, like it was stretching, I

think I slept for a week straight at one point. The only time I would

get out of bed was to use the restroom and eat or drink a little. I

also gained 25 pounds in less than a month! I woke up one morning and

none of my clothes fit me. I went out and bought new clothes, and

after the next couple of days those didn't fit either! I went from a

size 5 to a 14 in less than 2 months. I also thought I had a cold

virus or something, but everytime I would take meds for it, my skin

would swell. It was terrible! I remember the day it started, I was in

the middle of teaching, and suddenly thought I was having a heart

attack, and had to be rushed to the hospital. Since I was only 25,

the hosp. drug tested me instead! It took 4 months for someone to

finally diagnose me with hypo. Now that I think about it, and know

more about it though, I can see how the subtle symptoms had been

there for a few years, I just thought they were normal for me. Good

Luck.

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I read the same thing about avoiding FO/CC when I was going through my

treatment. I wish I could remember the websites, as well as those that stated

that was untrue.

I continued to take Budwig's FO/CC, and after five years it hasn't hurt me. In

fact, it helped to shrink a thyroid tumor the radiation caused.

Judi

" There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. "

~Albert Schweitzer

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Hello Alice:

I thought that someone has already post the link in here. If not, please

don't hesitate to ask me as I would be glad to do so.

Debbie

Debbie – What is the link? I love to add things to the website – as

everyone should know.

Alice

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We’re all set and thanks!

Alice

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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:13 PM

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Subject: Re: Digest Number 1827

Hello  Alice:

I  thought that someone has already post the link in here.  If  not, please

don't hesitate to ask me as I would be glad to do so.

Debbie

Debbie – What is the link?  I love to add things to the website  – as

everyone should know.

Alice

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In a message dated 4/22/05 5:56:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> Message: 13

> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:48:33 -0000

> From: " zoe88025 " <Zll51@...>

> Subject: Re: Neurontin and Topamax possible suicide link

>

>

> Thanks Grace,

> I read that article and it sure explains a lot to me. Including

> the suicidal depression I experienced while taking anticonvulsants.

> This is a red flag for anyone who uses anticonvulsants.

> Especially if you are having feelings of depression. Anticonvulsant

> use can lead to deficiencies of sodium or calcium. One of the

> symptoms of this is depression. There's a lot more to this, but

> maybe this will get us talking and searching on this subject, it

> could save a lot of people from thinking they have a psychological

> problem or that a child has a behavioral or cognitive disorder when

> the problem may have a drug induced electrolyte imbalance, that is

> so easily fixed.

> Zoe

..

..

>>> THe way AEDs work, for the most part, is to depress the central nervous

system...... just extend that statement logically, remembering that all parts

of the brain and body are connected.

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