Guest guest Posted July 29, 1999 Report Share Posted July 29, 1999 Hi ; I think they got a cousin named Yagottawanna B Keyding, or was he an uncle? Strange folks in any case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Hi , For me, it got to the point where I found myself tensing up (getting ready for fight or flight response?) when they'd ask 'how are you' and it was never the how are you normal people say to each other as a form of greeting. It usually was " How. . .Are. . . You? " said as head slopes downward and to the side as they gaze intently with furrowed brows. Because I'm supposed to respond that I'm happy joyous and free and peaceful and serene and then touch on a little problem and finish up with but I'm taking it one day at a time and looking at my part. But I haven't had a drink today and that's what is important. It's like a damn password. If I say the right line I get the good strokes. Jan hey >Acknowledging others and respecting their right to take up space on this >earth is an art in itself. I find it hard to do at times with people who >carry a certain set of beliefs that in actuality condemns me for being >me. AA is a case in point. In AA when someone asks how are you they mean >how is your program and the most respected and loved are loved for their >maintenance of their program not for who they are. I think in AA if you >are not the stereotyped AA guy or gal then you have to hide it to stay >around and that is a sad commentary on the health of the AA way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I think all any of us really wants is to be loved for who we really >are. In AA they were only able to love me for who I am not. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're >satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate >of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere./click/678 > > >eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Jan, that is so true! But I also noticed the " but that's ok, " in reference to anything in one's life including but not limited to, losing a limb, losing a loved one, house burning down, car crash, spouse leaving, spouse not leaving, etc...... as long as one was " in these rooms " . I hated that! All is well as long as I'm in these rooms. I used to look around the Heights Club at the disgusting pictures of Bill W and his cohorts beaming down on a smoke filled, grimy, stinky room full of people nodding like a bunch of hula dolls, well, I guess what I'm saying is, I don't miss that at all! kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Jan, that is so true! But I also noticed the " but that's ok, " in reference to anything in one's life including but not limited to, losing a limb, losing a loved one, house burning down, car crash, spouse leaving, spouse not leaving, etc...... as long as one was " in these rooms " . I hated that! All is well as long as I'm in these rooms. I used to look around the Heights Club at the disgusting pictures of Bill W and his cohorts beaming down on a smoke filled, grimy, stinky room full of people nodding like a bunch of hula dolls, well, I guess what I'm saying is, I don't miss that at all! kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 1999 Report Share Posted August 11, 1999 At 10:40 PM 8/10/99 EDT, BALIHAI333@... wrote: >Jan, that is so true! But I also noticed the " but that's ok, " in reference >to anything in one's life including but not limited to, losing a limb, losing >a loved one, house burning down, car crash, spouse leaving, spouse not >leaving, etc...... as long as one was " in these rooms " . I hated that! All >is well as long as I'm in these rooms. I've heard that - I've heard lots of things said, followed by " but that's okay " , but I've never heard anyone say in an AA meeting say " I drank a beer, but that's okay. " If anyone did, they would be corrected real fast... ----- <http://listen.to/benbradley> New and Improved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 1999 Report Share Posted August 11, 1999 Dear Ben, john and List; AA is one long case of the " Yeah Buts " . Isn't it easier just to say " I disagree? " Actually it's rather fun to see an out of town Guru circle the in house Guru and listen to their conversation, it is usually loaded with " That's true, but... " Of course after they've come to terms they go together and pick on some poor slob who doesn't see it coming. Funny thing about this. I've noticed the women in Alanon don't seem to do this. When the Regional Rep from Alateen came to view Roses Group, there was no challenge and answer, she just told Rose " Good Job " and they became friends. Actually I rather marveled at their cooperation. Especially since Rose was never a stepper and The Alateen Rep was. Rose also never outwardly challenged the steps, just said they were not appropriate for ten year olds. Of course that reasoning didn't fly with the AA group so they closed the Alateen group. Even though I was a stepper myself at the time I could see the logic of it. How big a Moral Inventory can a ten year old or twelve year old have? Do we want ten year old boys and girls to learn " They Cannot Become President? " That's why Alateen can be so destructive. The Catholic Church has always said, give us a child up till age 9 and they are Catholic for life. If a person has went to Catholic School and then dropped out, most still feel a tinge of guilt for not attending Mass and Confession. Guys like the one who wrote to Apple are beyond it in most cases, but it's the kids that can be salvaged in large numbers. Back to the point. If I told an AA, I was going for Ice Cream, he'd remind me of my diet in hopes of spoiling My enjoyment of the Ice Cream. Isn't that really the point of AA? To take the fun out of life and make it flat? Even the comfortable rut I live in is still a rut. I'm just old enough to be comfortable with it. My life would drive someone 40 stone crazy. Yet if I were AA, I would try to impose my life as a standard, which I gurandamntee it ain't. In the morning I take pills and hop on the computer for a couple of hours, then go to the shop, 10 feet from the house and repair a few things, about 6-10 hours depending on how busy we are. Then Dinner, then the Computer for a while, then to bed. This routine is only interrupted once a week or so. I occasionally do service calls for the aged of physically handicapped and I enjoy Garage Sales and auctions. Me great Neice and nephew break the routine, but I could say 80% of my life is same old same old. Why would I want to impose that on someone who didn't need or want to live the way I do? And if some AA said something about me having Ice Cream, I'd put Duct Tape on his mouth. I take my small pleasures seriously! Same old, same old, is good for a heart condition, so I've gotten used to it out of necessity. I don't believe it is good for a young person to be taught to live that way. Yet is not that exactly what AA teaches? Establish a routine, incuding many AA meetings and stick to it? Where is the time for creation, exploring, learning where one fits, or making their own niche if they fit in no established one? All this time is dedicated to AA and believe me when I say AA is the epitomy of Same Old, Same Old. Ever notice most Gurus are old farts like me? Well we old farts do have a message, but it should be taken in small doses, by young people. My exciting times and controversial times, took place in a different era than you young folks face. The whole fabric of society was different than it is now. The point, AA is still the same as it was then. Unlike everything else AA has not changed. The questions I put forth 40 years ago are valid today. Do other folks beside me see what's inheritly wrong with this? At age 42 in 1980, the questions that puzzled me about microprocessors, are today known by 12 year olds, but AA hasn't changed. The Rotary club has changed, but AA has not. AA still teaches a 1940 moral outlook and 60 years have gone bye since that was valid. Older men like the 1940 society, because it denies the modern woman and " Puts her in her place " . However these men only function well, within the narrow confines of AA. Very similar to my functioning fine within the narrow limits heart disease allows me. Jerry Fallwell has a broader outlook than AA, however he very much resembles an AA Guru IMO. So an AA, becomes an old man or old woman in outlook at age 30. I really think this is the bottom line wrongness of AA, and it all begins with the " Yeah Buts " Jim K, is a shining example, saying you're a loser, then signing Peace. One can have controversy or peace, but they are in fact mutually exclusive. In AA, they tell you you are a piece of shit, then say they love you. I don't love anyone I consider a piece of shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 1999 Report Share Posted August 13, 1999 Hi , folks > Rose also never outwardly >challenged the steps, just said they were not appropriate for ten >year olds. Of course that reasoning didn't fly with the AA group so >they closed the Alateen group. Even though I was a stepper >myself at the time I could see the logic of it. How big a Moral >Inventory can a ten year old or twelve year old have? Do we want >ten year old boys and girls to learn " They Cannot Become >President? " That's why Alateen can be so destructive. The >Catholic Church has always said, give us a child up till age 9 and >they are Catholic for life. I think it's 7, not 9, and we either stay catholic or become Catholicism haters, which I have. Rose is dead right abt morals and ten yea olds; the highest levels of moral reasoning do not develop until mid-teens, and it is evidence of the complete ignorance of psychology that steppers try to apply the same program for adults and children. >Back to the point. If I told an AA, I was going for Ice Cream, he'd >remind me of my diet in hopes of spoiling My enjoyment of the Ice >Cream. Say it in OA, and most of them wont ever speak to you again. > >Isn't that really the point of AA? To take the fun out of life and >make it flat? Even the comfortable rut I live in is still a rut. I'm just >old enough to be comfortable with it. My life would drive someone >40 stone crazy. Curious why you say this - and also curious that you use the weight 'stone' - most americans seem to have never heard of it! P. ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 1999 Report Share Posted August 13, 1999 Hi , folks > Rose also never outwardly >challenged the steps, just said they were not appropriate for ten >year olds. Of course that reasoning didn't fly with the AA group so >they closed the Alateen group. Even though I was a stepper >myself at the time I could see the logic of it. How big a Moral >Inventory can a ten year old or twelve year old have? Do we want >ten year old boys and girls to learn " They Cannot Become >President? " That's why Alateen can be so destructive. The >Catholic Church has always said, give us a child up till age 9 and >they are Catholic for life. I think it's 7, not 9, and we either stay catholic or become Catholicism haters, which I have. Rose is dead right abt morals and ten yea olds; the highest levels of moral reasoning do not develop until mid-teens, and it is evidence of the complete ignorance of psychology that steppers try to apply the same program for adults and children. >Back to the point. If I told an AA, I was going for Ice Cream, he'd >remind me of my diet in hopes of spoiling My enjoyment of the Ice >Cream. Say it in OA, and most of them wont ever speak to you again. > >Isn't that really the point of AA? To take the fun out of life and >make it flat? Even the comfortable rut I live in is still a rut. I'm just >old enough to be comfortable with it. My life would drive someone >40 stone crazy. Curious why you say this - and also curious that you use the weight 'stone' - most americans seem to have never heard of it! P. ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 I remember you said you were wired shut for only four weeks, and I have double that time, but I am trying to look ahead a bit. How long before you were eating things like soft casseroles and pastas? Lexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Wow Lexie, 8 weeks? That is a long time to be wired shut! I have been eating casseroles since about 6-7 weeks post-op. I had my splint out at 6 weeks and then started experimenting with foods that I could eat. If things were cut up very small I could eat most things, including chicken. Fish I could eat even with my splint in because it is so soft anyway. Pastas came before casseroles because they don't really need to be chewed, just mushed with the tongue against the roof of the mouth. At 13 weeks post-op I am able to eat almost everything, including steak if it is cut up in small pieces. I haven't yet tried anything really chewy, like caramel but I'm not supposed to have that anyway with the braces. My biggest problem is that my back teeth don't meet anymore and so I can't eat salads and things are flat because my teeth can't meet to chew them. I also can't use my tongue the same way I used to and food that gets lost in my back teeth is very hard to retrieve without using my fingers. It is not a good things to be sticking your fingers in your mouth in public. That will come in time and I'm willing to wait for it. My teeth will be made to meet when I get all my old worn down crowns replaced after my braces come off in a year of so. Do any exercises the doc tells you to and it will make the healing and eating so much better. I can get my mouth open pretty far now and am able to eat bananas without cutting them up. I had knee surgery last week and was worried about getting a tube down my throat but the anesthesiologist didn't have any problems so that is a good sign that things are moving along ok. I had a sore throat after but no jaw pain. It sounds like you are doing ok with the wiring. Time will probably go by pretty quickly and before you know it, the wires will be off and you will forget what it was like to have them in. I remember you said you were wired shut for only four weeks, and I have > double that time, but I am trying to look ahead a bit. > How long before you were eating things like soft casseroles and pastas? > Lexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Hi Cammie, my oral surgeon took the molds for the splint but my ortho took the molds that were used for the mock surgery. I don't know why, I guess I should have asked. It seemed that I was always getting mounted models done in the 6 months before surgery. One period of about 2 weeks I had models done by the ortho, the surgeon AND my dentist. UUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! I'm a gagger and it is never a good time for me to have them made. Have you tried the grape flavor? It tastes like artificially flavored bubble gum, too gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 That's awsome!! I only wish. I'm stuck at 153.5. I practicly get on and of the dang thing about 10 times. THen I whip out the other scale and do the same thing about 20 more times and then except the answer. I wish I was you right now. Michel > i weigh 150 and not 152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 that is great....2 pounds are gone!!! Jacy -- hey i weigh 150 and not 152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Great job! Maybe you could speak a person you knoew when you were a kid that helped shaped you, that way you don't have to discuss an uncomfortable event. My childhood was horrific, so I know what you mean, but my Gramma was a positive influence for me. Good Luck, > Hello everyone, > > haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty > good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what > i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this > time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. > > I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course > on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills > etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely > hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i > never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this > course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i > actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very > persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very > supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the > course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they > will never embarass you. > we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the > instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared > and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on > me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be > able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it > was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really > good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your > comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after > we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and > congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a > dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i > wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really > nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is > really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare > a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before > age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what > to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have > blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. > > please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys > about this. > > have a great weekend > > Elana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Great job! Maybe you could speak a person you knoew when you were a kid that helped shaped you, that way you don't have to discuss an uncomfortable event. My childhood was horrific, so I know what you mean, but my Gramma was a positive influence for me. Good Luck, > Hello everyone, > > haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty > good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what > i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this > time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. > > I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course > on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills > etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely > hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i > never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this > course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i > actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very > persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very > supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the > course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they > will never embarass you. > we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the > instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared > and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on > me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be > able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it > was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really > good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your > comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after > we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and > congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a > dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i > wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really > nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is > really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare > a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before > age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what > to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have > blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. > > please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys > about this. > > have a great weekend > > Elana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Elana - I think the Dale Carnegie course is a great idea! I don't know if anyone on here subscribes to the Dr. Phil way of thinking - but he thinks that it's rarely a weight issue that keeps us fat - there is something else going on that we are " feeding " when we eat too much. I think working on the shy thing is a huge step in the right direction. The assignment is probably good for you too - it may be hard, but I think it will be good for you in the long run to look at your childhood. Sherlyn Hey Hello everyone, haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they will never embarass you. we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys about this. have a great weekend Elana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Elana - I think the Dale Carnegie course is a great idea! I don't know if anyone on here subscribes to the Dr. Phil way of thinking - but he thinks that it's rarely a weight issue that keeps us fat - there is something else going on that we are " feeding " when we eat too much. I think working on the shy thing is a huge step in the right direction. The assignment is probably good for you too - it may be hard, but I think it will be good for you in the long run to look at your childhood. Sherlyn Hey Hello everyone, haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they will never embarass you. we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys about this. have a great weekend Elana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Wow Elana, sounds like you're really growing through this course. Good investment. You may never have a better chance to deal with the root cause than u have now. Best of luck! Marjon Hey > Hello everyone, > > haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty > good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what > i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this > time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. > > I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course > on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills > etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely > hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i > never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this > course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i > actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very > persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very > supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the > course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they > will never embarass you. > we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the > instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared > and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on > me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be > able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it > was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really > good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your > comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after > we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and > congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a > dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i > wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really > nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is > really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare > a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before > age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what > to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have > blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. > > please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys > about this. > > have a great weekend > > Elana > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Wow Elana, sounds like you're really growing through this course. Good investment. You may never have a better chance to deal with the root cause than u have now. Best of luck! Marjon Hey > Hello everyone, > > haven't posted in a while. Hope everone is okay. I have had a pretty > good week. weight wise not so good but at least i am now back to what > i was before my gain. i am back down to 218 and i hope for good this > time. i would like to be 214 by the end of the month. > > I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course > on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills > etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely > hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i > never met. i have no friends because of this and i thought this > course would help. well to my astonishment and amazement yesterday i > actually stood before the class and spoke. the leaders are very > persistent and do not let you get out of doing anything. it is a very > supportive environment and they said that there are two rules of the > course: they will never make you do anything you can't do and they > will never embarass you. > we had gone up in pairs of 7 and each one had to talk for 2 min. the > instructor just asked me questions and i answered. i was so scared > and nervous. the first time i looked at him i saw all these eyes on > me and i froze but then i decided to look elsewhere to at least be > able to talk. i still can't believe i did it and i am still alive. it > was one of the scariest things i have ever done but it feels really > good that i did it. one of the things of the course is to expand your > comfort zone and i think maybe i started to do that last night. after > we sat down there was a break and all these people came up to me and > congradulted me for doing it. they also spoke to me and it was like a > dream come true. people actually coming to me and talking to me. i > wasn't ignored like i usually am. the people in the cours are really > nice and supportive and i think i may make a couple of friends. it is > really exciting. the only problem is for next week we have to prepare > a 2 min talk about an incident that happened in our childhood (before > age 12) that has made us the person we are today. i have no idea what > to write about. my childhood was not fun or pleasant and i have > blocked most of it out. i have no idea what i am going to write about. > > please forgive me for ramblin on but i just needed to tell you guys > about this. > > have a great weekend > > Elana > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Congrats on your social progress! I could REALLY use one of those courses. Do they have a website? Desy http://www.clix.to/desyp http://www.geocities.com/thepuppourri elana2706@... writes: << I started taking a Dale carnegie course 2 weeks ago. it is a course on communicating with people, building self confidence, people skills etc... which is a field that i am very lacking. i find it extremely hard in social situations meeting new people and talking to people i never met. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Welcome amylw !! hey Hey everyone. I am new to this group so i thought i would introduce myself. I am 20 years old, attending college. I am currently at 190, with a height of 5'4. I have been overweight all my life and dieting has controled my life since i was in about 4th grade. I do not remember the last time i wasnt on some type of diet. I eat pretty healthy.. no fast food, i hate potato chips, no beef or red meat... but i have a wicked sweet tooth and i am generally not very active. I have finally hit that point where if i feel i need to do something. I spent my entire teenage years overweight and being ridiculed, i do not want to spend my 20's that way too. I suppose it doesnt help that my sister, who is 16 and 5'7 weighs 98 pounds. I hate going places with her because it makes me depressed. So anyway... i figured this would be a good way to get me motivated and keep me that way, esecially if i force myself to post me weigh in's and my ups and downs. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Welcome amylw !! hey Hey everyone. I am new to this group so i thought i would introduce myself. I am 20 years old, attending college. I am currently at 190, with a height of 5'4. I have been overweight all my life and dieting has controled my life since i was in about 4th grade. I do not remember the last time i wasnt on some type of diet. I eat pretty healthy.. no fast food, i hate potato chips, no beef or red meat... but i have a wicked sweet tooth and i am generally not very active. I have finally hit that point where if i feel i need to do something. I spent my entire teenage years overweight and being ridiculed, i do not want to spend my 20's that way too. I suppose it doesnt help that my sister, who is 16 and 5'7 weighs 98 pounds. I hate going places with her because it makes me depressed. So anyway... i figured this would be a good way to get me motivated and keep me that way, esecially if i force myself to post me weigh in's and my ups and downs. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Welcome amylw !! hey Hey everyone. I am new to this group so i thought i would introduce myself. I am 20 years old, attending college. I am currently at 190, with a height of 5'4. I have been overweight all my life and dieting has controled my life since i was in about 4th grade. I do not remember the last time i wasnt on some type of diet. I eat pretty healthy.. no fast food, i hate potato chips, no beef or red meat... but i have a wicked sweet tooth and i am generally not very active. I have finally hit that point where if i feel i need to do something. I spent my entire teenage years overweight and being ridiculed, i do not want to spend my 20's that way too. I suppose it doesnt help that my sister, who is 16 and 5'7 weighs 98 pounds. I hate going places with her because it makes me depressed. So anyway... i figured this would be a good way to get me motivated and keep me that way, esecially if i force myself to post me weigh in's and my ups and downs. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 > Hey everyone. I am new to this group so i thought i would introduce > myself. I am 20 years old, attending college. I am currently at 190, > with a height of 5'4. ###########i am 5'3 at 194, i just lost from 200 since october 15. i am 20 years old. I eat pretty > healthy.. no fast food, ########I am pretty good about this too, i have it once in a while, when i want it and i know i will work for it. > but i have a wicked sweet tooth ##########i do too, sounds like we're twins. and i am generally not very active. #######that's probably the proble i was the same way. now i do either 1/2 walking or treadmile or my paula abdul dance video. now i have been losing weight. > spent my entire teenage years overweight and being ridiculed ***********i did too, and now i am doing something about it. i especailly want to get in shape, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and heart disease run in the family. 16 and 5'7 weighs 98 pounds. #########that sounds very unhealthy to me. is she very bony? does she eat enough? is she very active? please just make sure it's not because of a disorder. i lost a friend to a disorder when i was in highschool we are very motivating here and all help each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 > Hey everyone. I am new to this group so i thought i would introduce > myself. I am 20 years old, attending college. I am currently at 190, > with a height of 5'4. ###########i am 5'3 at 194, i just lost from 200 since october 15. i am 20 years old. I eat pretty > healthy.. no fast food, ########I am pretty good about this too, i have it once in a while, when i want it and i know i will work for it. > but i have a wicked sweet tooth ##########i do too, sounds like we're twins. and i am generally not very active. #######that's probably the proble i was the same way. now i do either 1/2 walking or treadmile or my paula abdul dance video. now i have been losing weight. > spent my entire teenage years overweight and being ridiculed ***********i did too, and now i am doing something about it. i especailly want to get in shape, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and heart disease run in the family. 16 and 5'7 weighs 98 pounds. #########that sounds very unhealthy to me. is she very bony? does she eat enough? is she very active? please just make sure it's not because of a disorder. i lost a friend to a disorder when i was in highschool we are very motivating here and all help each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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