Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 In a message dated 1/24/01 9:21:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, ang123@... writes: > My surgery in Sept., and subsequent hospitalization threw things out of > > whack along with not being able to do *anything*. > > > > So, I'm a shooter for now.. Dave: Sorry to hear your news, but hopefully the insulin will help you get your levels back on track. I got my new meter from Abbott Labs today, its a Precision QID, don't know if its that much better than what I had. But it is easier to use and by having to calibrate each package of test strips.....I wont have to worry about using the wrong strips again. The neat thing is the new meter was free which is great. It also gives me the last 10 readings if I forgot to write one reading down. And if my DR wants the info, it has the ability to download info to her computer. So I guess it is pretty neat. So far today, my levels have been in the 100 range and starting yesterday am on only 500 mg glucophage. But I see my DR again tomorrow. I did my walk this morning for 35 min...think maybe to get up to an hour a day need to walk in am and in PM? Well, I am rambling again, Good luck to you Dave and hope to hear from the rest of you hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Dave: my instructions for insulin were to refrigerate all unopened containers, but you don't have to refrigerate the one that is open.......which doesn't make sense to me! I suppose that for long-term storage the refrige is necessary? I still keep my opened container (pens) in the fridge also.......I dont feel anything " cold " shooting into me......especially with a dose of only 5 units, the shot is over so quick, you won't feel anything cold. At least I don't. And my dose is a lot higher than yours, unfortunately. Are you going to be using the pens, or the regular insulin containers? DaveO wrote: > I got the bad report today, my HbA1c had risen to 6.9, up from 6.1. > Mostly problems in the morning fasting, and after breakfast. No weight > gain. Doc gave me the option of adding Avandia to my Glucophage or a > bedtime shot of NPH (starting at 5 units). I opted for the insulin, and > hopefully things will start to get better. > My surgery in Sept., and subsequent hospitalization threw things out of > whack along with not being able to do *anything*. > > So, I'm a shooter for now.. > > Question: Do I have to keep NPH refrigerated? Pharmacist said so, but > what do they know? > I'm not so sure I'm going to like a cold shot. > > -- > Dave - 6:56:15 PM > T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH > > Davors Daily Aphorism: > * Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. > -- > Visit my HomePage: > http://dorcutt.homepage.com > > eGroups Sponsor [Choose 3 DVDs for $0.49 each!] Choose 3 DVDs for $0.49 each! > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > Post message: diabetes_integroups > Subscribe: diabetes_int-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: diabetes_int-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: diabetes_int-owneregroups > > URL: /group/diabetes_int > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Marr wrote: > > Dave: my instructions for insulin were to refrigerate all unopened > containers, but you don't have to refrigerate the one that is > open.......which doesn't make sense to me! I suppose that for long-term > storage the refrige is necessary? I still keep my opened container (pens) > in the fridge also.......I dont feel anything " cold " shooting into > me......especially with a dose of only 5 units, the shot is over so quick, > you won't feel anything cold. At least I don't. And my dose is a lot > higher than yours, unfortunately. Are you going to be using the pens, or > the regular insulin containers? Thanks for the info. I asked the doc about the pens and she gave the standard line that " insurance companies don't much go for the pens " . Had I been a type 1 with multiple injections, I'd complain, but not for one little shot. As for the shot, didn't even know I did it. In fact, I didn't see any difference at all in my morning reading.. almost like I didn't do it. > > DaveO wrote: > > > I got the bad report today, my HbA1c had risen to 6.9, up from 6.1. > > Mostly problems in the morning fasting, and after breakfast. No weight > > gain. Doc gave me the option of adding Avandia to my Glucophage or a > > bedtime shot of NPH (starting at 5 units). I opted for the insulin, and > > hopefully things will start to get better. > > My surgery in Sept., and subsequent hospitalization threw things out of > > whack along with not being able to do *anything*. > > > > So, I'm a shooter for now.. > > > > Question: Do I have to keep NPH refrigerated? Pharmacist said so, but > > what do they know? > > I'm not so sure I'm going to like a cold shot. -- Dave - 5:26:24 AM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Forget the bull .. Ride the Cowboy. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 cariapat@... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/24/01 9:21:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ang123@... writes: > > > My surgery in Sept., and subsequent hospitalization threw things out of > > > whack along with not being able to do *anything*. > > > > > > So, I'm a shooter for now.. > > Dave: > > Sorry to hear your news, but hopefully the insulin will help you get your > levels back on track. I got my new meter from Abbott Labs today, its a > Precision QID, don't know if its that much better than what I had. But it is > easier to use and by having to calibrate each package of test strips.....I > wont have to worry about using the wrong strips again. The neat thing is the > new meter was free which is great. It also gives me the last 10 readings if > I forgot to write one reading down. And if my DR wants the info, it has the > ability to download info to her computer. So I guess it is pretty neat. > So far today, my levels have been in the 100 range and starting yesterday am > on only 500 mg glucophage. But I see my DR again tomorrow. > I did my walk this morning for 35 min...think maybe to get up to an hour a > day need to walk in am and in PM? > Well, I am rambling again, > Good luck to you Dave and hope to hear from the rest of you > hugs Thanks, those are good numbers for you. You may not even need the glucophage much longer for sure. Bet the walks are helping a lot. Thanks, your new meter sounds great. -- Dave - 5:31:24 AM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: .... Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 I don't refrigerate mine and have had no problems - for what that;s worth DaveO wrote: > I got the bad report today, my HbA1c had risen to 6.9, up from 6.1. > Mostly problems in the morning fasting, and after breakfast. No weight > gain. Doc gave me the option of adding Avandia to my Glucophage or a > bedtime shot of NPH (starting at 5 units). I opted for the insulin, and > hopefully things will start to get better. > My surgery in Sept., and subsequent hospitalization threw things out of > whack along with not being able to do *anything*. > > So, I'm a shooter for now.. > > Question: Do I have to keep NPH refrigerated? Pharmacist said so, but > what do they know? > I'm not so sure I'm going to like a cold shot. > > -- > Dave - 6:56:15 PM > T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH > > Davors Daily Aphorism: > * Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. > -- > Visit my HomePage: > http://dorcutt.homepage.com > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > Post message: diabetes_integroups > Subscribe: diabetes_int-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: diabetes_int-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: diabetes_int-owneregroups > > URL: /group/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 01-01-25 14:43:48 EST, you write: << My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something has changed in my body. >> Well, yes, that's true, Dave, our bodies aren't static. My insulin needs change from time to time too, I'm sure all diabetics' do. Could I suggest if you have to have cereal in the morning, to try lowcarb Keto Cereal (Life Services website has it). It's a lot of air surrounded by crunch but a single serving 28-gram serving has only 2 carbs and it's reasonably satisfying. I don't even need to dose for it. I have it with a slice of their Keto Bread (sourdough rye) with lowcarb jam and a cup of tea for breakfast on the days when I don't have egg breakfast. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 01-01-25 14:43:48 EST, you write: << My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something has changed in my body. >> PS...how many carbs in that Complete per serving? V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Dave O. wrote: << I got the bad report today, my HbA1c had risen to 6.9, up from 6.1. >> Well, Dave ... It makes me feel very sad whan any one of us gets an indication that the numbers are sliding. You can still improve them, though, with dietary changes and added exercise ... right? << I opted for the insulin ... Do I have to keep NPH refrigerated? Pharmacist said so, but what do they know? >> That N will begin working in about an hour, and its peak impact will be from 3 to 9 hours after the shot - so be extra-careful about overnight lows. It's available in vial or pen. All vials contain 100 units of insulin in each milliliter of fluid (label reads U-100). Each disposable pen contains 300 units. Each box contains 5 pens. There will be exact instructions included with your vials or pens. Keep your insulin in the fridge - but never let it freeze. (Buy an accurate thermometer ... freezer at 0, refrigerator at 40 degrees.) Always keep insulin below 86 degrees, and away from heat and light. There will be an expiration date on the outer packaging. Unopened N should be good in the fridge until the expiration date; opened, vials are good for 7 days. (That means the stopper or seal has been punctured.) Pens should not be refrigerated. They are good opened at room temp. for 14 days; unopened, they are good until expiration date. But I still think you should consider dietary changes, plus more activity, as options here, Dave ... Diet should be our primary treatment method. Susie ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Susie M. wrote: > > Unopened N > should be good in the fridge until the expiration date; opened, vials are > good for 7 days. (That means the stopper or seal has been punctured.) Pens > should not be refrigerated. They are good opened at room temp. for 14 days; > unopened, they are good until expiration date. > > Hi. Susie, Thanks for the information. I'm going to buy a refrigerator > thermometer this afternoon to use in my very old refrigerator.I have two > comments about NPH and pens and how long they stay good. I was under the > impression that N vials last for about a month and. that the vial should be > marked clearly with the date that it was first opened. I just started a new N > vial and found that same dosage from the new vial worked much more > efficiently. I'd used the old vial for two months since there was so much > left and I hated to waste it. I also just got a package of humalog pens and the insert says: " Humalog pens should be stored in a refrigerator but not in the freezer. The Humalog Pen that you are currently using should not be refrigerated but should be kept as cool as possible ... " It always says an unrefrigerated pen should be discarded after 28 days. Perhaps the instructions for different kinds of insulin pens are diffirent For what it's worth I keep all the insulin in the cheese compartment of the refridgerator. > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > Post message: diabetes_integroups > Subscribe: diabetes_int-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: diabetes_int-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: diabetes_int-owneregroups > > URL: /group/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 It might help to find out how much each gram of carb raises your sugar. That might be hard to do for a Type II because you still produce insulin. My son who is 11, weighes 70 pounds. A gram of carb will raise his sugar 10 points. So 15 carbs would be a BIG deal flag waving time for him. It would raise his sugar 150 points and then he would need about 1.5 units of insulin just for the cereal; would need additional for the milk and etc. The more the insulin, the more variation in its effect and absorption. As you can deduce, a shot of 10 units of insulin, just as an exmaple, can be off in its effect by 25%. If one unit lowers 100 points, then a 25% error in either direction will lead to a lot of problems either 25 points too high or 25 point to low. If you are trying to maintain normal sugars (80-95) than 25 points is a lot. In short, we use low carb because as Dr. Bernstein says over and over: Small numbers (carb and insulin) ==Small errors. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 O'Neil wrote: > > I don't refrigerate mine and have had no problems - for what that;s worth > I'm going to try it cold tonight to see if it's noticible, if so, then I'll leave it out. -- Dave - 9:46:28 AM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Hindsight is always 20/20. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Atchison wrote: << I'm going to buy a refrigerator > thermometer this afternoon to use in my very old refrigerator. >> Excellent. That helps so much with food storage as well. E.g., if the temp. in lower fridge drops to freezing, your lettuce turns to slime. Also, your frozen foods will last much longer if you keep freezer at or below 0. Minus 5 in freezer and 37 in fridge are perfect - but 0 and 40 represent good compromises between energy efficiency and optimal food storage. (source: Consumers' Reports0 << I was under the impression that N vials last for about a month and that the vials should be marked clearly with the date that it was first opened. >> I keep on my desk (along with countless piles of other crap) Eli Lilly's " Managing Your Diabetes, " " Types and Actions of Lilly Insulins, " " Common Questions About Insulin, " " Recommended Insulin Storage for Vials, Cartridges, and Pens, " and their Humalog insert. Lilly says vials and cartridges will last 28 days at room temp. (59-86 F.) opened or unopened, but the N and 70/30 cartridge will last only 7 days. They say that vials of Humulin, Humalog, and R will last 28 days refrigerated, but the N and 70/30 cartridge will last only 7 days in the fridge. Unopened in the fridge, they say all will last until the expiration date. Moving to PENS ... They say the Humalog pen at room temp. will last 28 days, opened or unopened, the N pen will last 14 days at room temp., and the Humulin 70/30 and Humalog 75/25 mix pens will last 10 days at room temp. Unopened, all the pens will last in the fridge until expiration date. No opened pens should be refrigerated, they say. They say always examine appearance before withdrawing a dose. If your insulin needs change markedly or anything looks amiss, contact doctor. Do not use insulin that has been frozen, or after its expiration date. I hope this helps clarify my earlier post, in which I was discussing Dave O's N, rather than Humalog. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 01-01-25 17:02:11 EST, you write: << It's 23 carbs for 3/4 cup w/5g fiber. I usually only use 1/2 cup, so it's around 15 carbs less 2g fiber or so plus 1/2 cup 2% milk. >> So that's somehwere around 20 carbs. Versus 2 carbs (plus milk) for the Keto Cereal...V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 01-01-25 17:27:08 EST, you write: << I'll have to try it. After eating the 1/2 cup sample of Fibre One that I had, I can eat anything. Kind of like eating wood pellets that I use in the stove. >> I sprinkle the 28-gram serving of Keto Cereal with an envelope of non-sugar sweetener and use about 1/4 c. milk. It's eatable. :-) Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Dave O. wrote: << My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something has changed in my body. >> All the time we ran in circles, waving our arms and yammering about carbohydrates as if we were Chicken Little and the sky was falling, we probably seemed a bit touched to you and others who hadn't had the Full Monty yet. The infernal thing about diabetes is it never stays the same. You've joined us on the slippery slope! Watch your footing, kiddo! Your pancreas is probably getting more pooped now. You can treat this with more meds and/or insulin. But reducing carbs and more exercise might accomplish the same thing. I've been in the same boat. I've been laid up from the lawn tractor rollover, then the horse wreck, then the nerve problem in my back. There was also four bouts of pneumonia in one winter, plus another infection. Diabetes is like a big meter that weighs the our emotional and physical states, then leavens that with its reaction to the presence of any infections. You will probably get better as your activity level returns to normal. The insulin is a good idea to help you until then. But weigh and measure to make sure it isn't causing weight gain. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Yes. That is my point. 15 grams of carbohydrate really is a big deal for a diabetic. Especially one that is insulin dependent. Unfortunately we have to count each and every gram and also each ounce of protein. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 1/25/01 4:55:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, ottercritter@... writes: << Dave O. wrote: << My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something has changed in my body. >> >> Well, what may have changed is that you have lost beta cells that produce insulin. It is the common progression of the disease if blood sugars are not tightly controlled. Have you had a C-Peptide test? This will give you an idea of how much insulin you are still producing. My son had to take only a little bit of iinsulin when first diagnosed, but now needs much more a year and a half later because the beta cells burned out. So not only do you have daily variations in insulin resistance, activity and type of food mixed in the meal, but you may be noticed the reduced ability of your pancrease to produce insulin in general. Check with your doc. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Atchison wrote: > > Susie M. wrote: > > > > > Unopened N > > should be good in the fridge until the expiration date; opened, vials are > > good for 7 days. (That means the stopper or seal has been punctured.) Pens > > should not be refrigerated. They are good opened at room temp. for 14 days; > > unopened, they are good until expiration date. > > > > Hi. Susie, Thanks for the information. I'm going to buy a refrigerator > > thermometer this afternoon to use in my very old refrigerator.I have two > > comments about NPH and pens and how long they stay good. I was under the > > impression that N vials last for about a month and. that the vial should be > > marked clearly with the date that it was first opened. I just started a new N > > vial and found that same dosage from the new vial worked much more > > efficiently. I'd used the old vial for two months since there was so much > > left and I hated to waste it. > > I also just got a package of humalog pens and the insert says: " Humalog pens > should be stored in a refrigerator but not in the freezer. The Humalog Pen that > you are currently using should not be refrigerated but should be kept as cool > as possible ... " > It always says an unrefrigerated pen should be discarded after 28 days. Perhaps > the instructions for different kinds of insulin pens are diffirent > > > > For what it's worth I keep all the insulin in the cheese compartment of the > refridgerator. You know, that might be the key-- " unrefrigerated should be discarded after 28 days " . Most likely most insulin users would use a whole vial in 28 days, and therefore no problem in leaving it at room temp, however, as in my case, where the dose is so small, it would last much longer than 28 days and might go bad. -- Dave - 1:51:31 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: All stressed out, and no one to choke... -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 " Susie M. " wrote: > > Dave O. wrote: > > << I got the bad report today, my HbA1c had risen to 6.9, up from 6.1. >> > > Well, Dave ... It makes me feel very sad whan any one of us gets an > indication that the numbers are sliding. You can still improve them, though, > with dietary changes and added exercise ... right? > > << I opted for the insulin ... Do I have to keep NPH refrigerated? > Pharmacist said so, but > what do they know? >> > > That N will begin working in about an hour, and its peak impact will be from > 3 to 9 hours after the shot - so be extra-careful about overnight lows. It's > available in vial or pen. All vials contain 100 units of insulin in each > milliliter of fluid (label reads U-100). Each disposable pen contains 300 > units. Each box contains 5 pens. There will be exact instructions included > with your vials or pens. Keep your insulin in the fridge - but never let it > freeze. (Buy an accurate thermometer ... freezer at 0, refrigerator at 40 > degrees.) Always keep insulin below 86 degrees, and away from heat and > light. There will be an expiration date on the outer packaging. Unopened N > should be good in the fridge until the expiration date; opened, vials are > good for 7 days. (That means the stopper or seal has been punctured.) Pens > should not be refrigerated. They are good opened at room temp. for 14 days; > unopened, they are good until expiration date. > > But I still think you should consider dietary changes, plus more activity, > as options here, Dave ... Diet should be our primary treatment method. > > Susie ) I know that activity is one of the keys as I was severely restricted for the past 4 months, but can now start to move again. The other problem is that the medications (glucophage plus precose) were not doing the job anymore, even though my weight had stayed the same for the past 3 visits (9 months). My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something has changed in my body. -- Dave - 1:51:31 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: All stressed out, and no one to choke... -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 I am apparently communicating poorly today. << It's 15 carbs plus whatever 1/2 cup of 2% milk is.. I don't think that qualifies for arm waving. >> But that's precisely my point. In the past, when we would point out this and that food that could be a problem, you didn't see the problem. You didn't want to give up your freedom - your moments of hedonism. Suddenly you find youreself in the same boat as many others regarding carb intolerance. It isn't just the carb counts. Highly-processed grains, which is what breakfast cereal is, are a Problem. Milk sugars in milk are a Problem. In fact, some type 1's use skim milk to recover from hypos. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 In a message dated 01/25/2001 9:17:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, fencible@... writes: << > So that's somehwere around 20 carbs. Versus 2 carbs (plus milk) for the > Keto Cereal...V. > Some difference!! >> Yes, and this cereal really is good, much to my surprise, but I don't use milk I use 1/2 heavy cream, 1/2 water mix. carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 " Susie M. " wrote: > > Dave O. wrote: > > << My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very > small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me > well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so something > has changed in my body. >> > > All the time we ran in circles, waving our arms and yammering about > carbohydrates as if we were Chicken Little and the sky was falling, we > probably seemed a bit touched to you and others who hadn't had the Full > Monty yet. The infernal thing about diabetes is it never stays the same. > You've joined us on the slippery slope! Watch your footing, kiddo! It's 15 carbs plus whatever 1/2 cup of 2% milk is.. I don't think that qualifies for arm waving. > > Your pancreas is probably getting more pooped now. You can treat this with > more meds and/or insulin. But reducing carbs and more exercise might > accomplish the same thing. I've been in the same boat. I've been laid up > from the lawn tractor rollover, then the horse wreck, then the nerve problem > in my back. There was also four bouts of pneumonia in one winter, plus > another infection. Diabetes is like a big meter that weighs the our > emotional and physical states, then leavens that with its reaction to the > presence of any infections. You will probably get better as your activity > level returns to normal. The insulin is a good idea to help you until then. > But weigh and measure to make sure it isn't causing weight gain. Yeah, I'm going to watch that closely. I want to lose 10 lbs, 20 max and I'll be right. -- Dave - 4:34:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Forget the bull .. Ride the Cowboy. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 whimsy2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 01-01-25 14:43:48 EST, you write: > > << > My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very > small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me > well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so > something has changed in my body. > >> > PS...how many carbs in that Complete per serving? V. > It's 23 carbs for 3/4 cup w/5g fiber. I usually only use 1/2 cup, so it's around 15 carbs less 2g fiber or so plus 1/2 cup 2% milk. -- Dave - 4:34:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Forget the bull .. Ride the Cowboy. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 whimsy2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 01-01-25 14:43:48 EST, you write: > > << > My problem is fasting readings.. anywhere from 141-182, and even a very > small (measured) breakfast of 1/2 cup of Complete (bran flakes) takes me > well 180, and as high as 211. It didn't do this in the past, so > something has changed in my body. > >> > Well, yes, that's true, Dave, our bodies aren't static. My insulin needs > change from time to time too, I'm sure all diabetics' do. Must be! > > Could I suggest if you have to have cereal in the morning, to try lowcarb > Keto Cereal (Life Services website has it). It's a lot of air surrounded by > crunch but a single serving 28-gram serving has only 2 carbs and it's > reasonably satisfying. I don't even need to dose for it. I have it with a > slice of their Keto Bread (sourdough rye) with lowcarb jam and a cup of tea > for breakfast on the days when I don't have egg breakfast. Vicki I'll have to try it. After eating the 1/2 cup sample of Fibre One that I had, I can eat anything. Kind of like eating wood pellets that I use in the stove. -- Dave - 4:39:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Boldly going nowhere -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 whimsy2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 01-01-25 17:02:11 EST, you write: > > << > It's 23 carbs for 3/4 cup w/5g fiber. I usually only use 1/2 cup, so > it's around 15 carbs less 2g fiber or so plus 1/2 cup 2% milk. > >> > So that's somehwere around 20 carbs. Versus 2 carbs (plus milk) for the > Keto Cereal...V. > Some difference!! -- Dave - 8:44:30 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH - Davors Daily Aphorism: Money Isn't Everything, But it Sure Keeps the Kids In Touch -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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