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Now of course the average doc is going to say that its not contagious. And

the average doc isn't worth a hill of beans. Everyone I know going to docs

are still disabled and still dying. Now, there are some docs, very few, who

are quite successful at making people well. The docs who are actually making

people well; they are the ones who say its contagious. Thus are you going to

believe the average medical literature or the docs who are succeeding at

making people well. I know I put on here a lot of websites, but you will

really

be very amazed at what you read. I know it looks like a lot, but it is so

very interesting and explains every thing to me.

See page 5 on transmission:

_http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/addons/ARGFocus_Oct2003.pdf_

(http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/addons/ARGFocus_Oct2003.pdf)

Also there are tons of info on lyme popping up everywhere. It is now the

fastest growing or most often discovered disease. Whole families are testing

positive and their pets. Most people have no memory of ever getting a tick

bite. But the better news is that once the antibotics are started, the

people's symptoms start going away. I have heard stories of people with

severe,

disabling diagnoses (physical and mental), getting well in days.

See also :

_http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/medmain.html_

(http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/medmain.html)

_http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_lyme_disease.html_

(http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_lyme_disease.html)

_http://richardsfamilyhealth.com/navpages/healthconditions/lymedisease.html_

(http://richardsfamilyhealth.com/navpages/healthconditions/lymedisease.html)

_http://www.pembrokeshireramblers.org.uk/HillwalkersLeaflet.txt_

(http://www.pembrokeshireramblers.org.uk/HillwalkersLeaflet.txt)

_http://www.whatreallyworks.co.uk/start/factsheets.asp?article_ID=1535_

(http://www.whatreallyworks.co.uk/start/factsheets.asp?article_ID=1535)

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Yes it is in there and other places about it being contagious through

french-kissing. But I really don't know. I haven't done any studies myself.

I

just know that I have been going to forums and the people are saying things

that support it being contagious within the whole family and even their dogs

are

getting it. What I do know is that its being diagnosed at alarming rates

within whole families and the weird thing is that each family member has

different symptoms from it. Also, many docs are saying that unless they treat

the

entire family, the one very sick member does not get better or keeps

relapsing. It appears to be the answer for my family. Another weird thing is

that

people are getting better with herbs more than the antibiotics. For the

young, the antibiotics are working and even for the old. But the older ones,

relapse a month after stopping antibiotics. Thus, one thing is for certain,

the

antibiotics are giving relief, thus there is an infection causing these

symptoms. The ones who relapse do best going on herbs due to the side effects

of

long-term antibiotic use. Anyway, this is just some stuff I have been

learning. I really recommend taking the CD-57 test or the Florida test to see

if

you all have it. They say if you have any illness and a positive test, then

treatment will help you.

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Hi Heidi,

I have been following the lyme information for many years. The one

thing I know is that if a person is going to do the Antibiotics, then

they need to do alternatives treatments also. That is the only way they

will recover. If they only do the drugs then the minute they stop all of

there symptoms will most the time come back. I have helped several

people who did antibiotics for many years and as soon as they come off

its like they never started. So I figure what is the point of doing all

that damage to your body. It makes much more sense to support it from

the beginning and let it fight its own battles.

I feel the reason why families get it is because families have the same

environments. They hike together and have the same pets that get

exposed. I have heard its sexually transmitted and in my case I don't

know for sure. I have been bitten many, many times and in one instance

we know the ticks were there for days. I pull them off my horses,

sometimes as many as 30 ticks. I also pull them off my dogs and have

never worried because I just never really thought it was a problem. My

husband also had the bullseye rash that some people get and did take the

drugs but just not long enough to help. So I could of contracted it from

him or my own bites. I had my daughter tested years ago because it

seemed she was always sick but the test came back negative. I have not

bothered to test recently as we all do well on good diet and

supplements. Anyway, testing is good and drugs do help but if you are

going to do them make sure you support your body also.

Ambitionn01@... wrote:

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> Yes it is in there and other places about it being contagious through

> french-kissing. But I really don't know. I haven't done any studies

> myself. I

> just know that I have been going to forums and the people are saying

> things

> that support it being contagious within the whole family and even

> their dogs are

> getting it. What I do know is that its being diagnosed at alarming rates

> within whole families and the weird thing is that each family member has

> different symptoms from it. Also, many docs are saying that unless

> they treat the

> entire family, the one very sick member does not get better or keeps

> relapsing.

>

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I will probably get a lot of disagreement here, but I don't think

Lyme and MS are the same. I have MS. My symptoms are optic neuritis,

bladder problems, and numb and stiff legs. This is prettty different

than the symptoms Heidi listed below, which are more classic lyme

symptoms, like dizziness, cognitive problems, nausea, etc.

>

> On that note, let me just say that apparently mercury and lyme

disease are

> at the root of MS symptoms. ...> I have been visiting the lyme

groups and lyme websites and their symptoms

> are you all's symptoms. They have multiple chemical

sensitivities,

> off-balance, dizzy, eye problems, loss of use of limbs, bell's

palsey, brain fog, poor

> recall of names, poor short-term memory, swelling (sometimes),

speech

> problems, nausea, some even die, and many go into remission. Each

person's symptoms

> vary depending upon exactly which infections they have. I mean I

still don't

> see the difference between MS and lyme.

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