Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 Well I'm back from another short vacation, in the hospital again. Hopefully a little wiser this time. First off I was in this time from to low blood sugar. I now know its just as bad for a diabetic to eat too little food as to eat to much. At the hospital I told them to give me the hard fact rules for diabetes.I was told there is only one,there is no hard fact rules for all diabetics.All diabetics are different,we have to find what works for us personal.I've had to go back on pain pills.Pain has a BIG effect on my bg's.So now I'm back on the pills until can get better control.I'm starting to feel like I'm in the twilight zone,I thought being diabetic wasn't that bad anymore.Who ever said that wasn't a diabetic. D.J. may this find all well with you and yours,D.J.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 D. J. Maser wrote: << Susie,Hi.Sorry to be so long in answering,but these pills{roxecot}.I'm also confused, that is why I asked for some hard fact rules.I can play by rules,but it seems they keep changing the rules on me.My understanding now is they want to run some test.It seems my blood chemical is one way when I'm pain free or near pain free, and changes when I'm in pain. Some times I'm in pain for days on end, and some times I do pretty good, until I turn my wrist or move it a certain way. The weather plays a big part in my pain,like with most people who has had a broken bone and arthritis.I know I'm not eating enough,I keep losing weight I don't want to lose.But this is so hard to understand.Some times my fasting bg in the morning is 85-90 {and has been lower } and some times its over 250.Some times the morning bg is 90,I'll eat an apple or pear and 2 hours later its over 250. I don't understand.I have done everything I'm told to do, {but to eat enough},I exercise,I test, I take my glucphage.This is why I asked them for rules. >> We need to put our heads together and help D. J. Kiddo, I keep being concerned that you might be moving toward type 1 status. And I worry that your doctor isn't equipped to understand what is going on. And I worry about you losing weight. Is it depression? Are you freaking out because you can't get a handle on your glucose readings? I'm very troubled over your situation because I feel the doctors are not taking your condition seriously. I certainly am!!! I don't want you to lose any more weight! It's not a matter of eating less to achieve tight control when one is already thin. It's picking foods that don't spike your glucose. I'm not sure what is going on with your body ... alarms keep going off in my head ... I'm concerned that you are turning into a type 1. I suspect you need injected insulin. This is all just hunches, offered from a long distance away. I don't want you to stop eating! Vicki, what's your take on D. J.'s situation? I think she needs to have her type 2/type 1 status defined. I am so upset because I feel you are not getting the right treatment, D. J. Can others in the group chime in here? Thanks for your help! Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Susie,Hi.Sorry to be so long in answering,but these pills{roxecot}.I'm also confused, that is why I asked for some hard fact rules.I can play by rules,but it seems they keep changing the rules on me.My understanding now is they want to run some test.It seems my blood chemical is one way when I'm pain free or near pain free, and changes when I'm in pain. Some times I'm in pain for days on end, and some times I do pretty good, until I turn my wrist or move it a certain way. The weather plays a big part in my pain,like with most people who has had a broken bone and arthritis.I know I'm not eating enough,I keep losing weight I don't want to lose.But this is so hard to understand.Some times my fasting bg in the morning is 85-90 {and has been lower } and some times its over 250.Some times the morning bg is 90,I'll eat an apple or pear and 2 hours later its over 250. I don't understand.I have done everything I'm told to do, {but to eat enough},I exercise,I test, I take my glucphage.This is why I asked them for rules. D.J. Re: hard fact rules > D. J. Maser wrote: > > << Well I'm back from another short vacation, in the hospital again. > Hopefully a little wiser this time. First off I was in this time from to low > blood sugar. >> > > Dear D.J. - I'm sorry you had to be rehospitalized. I'm confused though .... > first they tell you you're diabetic, and then you have to be admitted for > hypoglycemia? This is a big group ... I was pretty sure you weren't on > injected insulin or a sulfonylurea. I can go 24 hours and not get in trouble > with hypos ... I'm still wondering what the heck is going on with your > pancreas ... > > Susie > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 In a message dated 11/06/2000 9:39:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, szau@... writes: > DJ have you ever heard of an elimination diet? I would give up the > sugarfree jello is it AP? > sharon > the apple has carbs carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 D. J., I'm stumped by your readings too. All I can say is that some people who use only sugar-free products still report spiking, and we don't really know why. Some have theorized that when our body " tastes something sweet, " it assumes it's the real thing and gears up to deal with it. What is important is to treat your pain - both for your peace of mind and to lower stress levels, which are so bad about spiking glucose levels. And you need to eat enough. I sense that you are eating very little, because you don't like seeing those readings over 200, and you can't figure out what else to do. I would select very low-carb items just for now ... maybe like what they call the Induction Phase of Dr. Atkins, or what Dr. Bernstein recommends. Then you can say with assurance that it's not the diet that's causing the problem ... has to be something else. That's an ellimination diet. This has to be so frustrating. I even looked up your pain med, Roxicet, to see if it could somehow be spiking you. It's, I believe, 325 mg of acetominophen plus an opiate. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 D. J. wrote: << food doesn't always effect me the same way. Sometimes fruit makes me go sky high,sometimes it doesn't.I keep very good records,starting back about 3 and a half years >> Some fruits are very carby, while others (primarily the berries) are not so bad. Sources of good info regarding them would come from the SiestaSoftware Food Composition software, from the USDA web site, and from the Glycemic Index list at Rick Mendosa's web site. But another possibility is that you have gastroparesis - a sort of paralysis of the digestive tract that is sometimes a diabetes complication. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 I've only ordered online from Low Carb Connoisseur and Bob's Red Mill. But here's a site I found that has plenty of low carb items - Low Carb Outfitters: http://www.lowcarboutfitters.com/IBS/SimpleCat/Shelf/ASP/Hierarchy/01.html They have several categories of low-carb food items. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 Carol,Just before my bg test started to show higher numbers, I had cortizone shots in my wrist once a month for 3 months. Cortizone I now know is known to bring on diabetes. My wrist and hand is covered by Workers Comp. because it started out as a broken wrist from work.So I go to a specialist for that.I started out with my family doctor for the diabetes, she then had me go to a specialist for the diabetes but because of my insurance I have to keep her with the specialist.So I don't see how or what kind of doctor I could get for the whole picture.Plus who would cover it,Worker's Comp. or my insurance? D.J. Re: hard fact rules > D.J., > My numbers would jump wackily if my body/mind was under unusually high stress > like infection, severe pain or unusually high emotional stress. It sounds > like you've been under some of the above. Meds, like steroids (ie. cortizone > shot in the hand), also cause high-jumping bgs. Is there any one dr who can > look at the total picture of your bg numbers correlated with your foods, > meds, hospital stays, etc.)? > > Carol T > > Carol T > > In a message dated Mon, 6 Nov 2000 6:06:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, " Susie > M. " writes: > > << Carol wrote: > > << the apple has carbs >> > > One apple with skin has approx. 19 grams of carbs, with 3-1/2 grams of > fiber. Without the skin, it has 16 grams of carbs, with 2 grams of fiber. I > think we need to look at the numbers here. D. J. is eating *very little > food* and yet her bg's are climbing from beneath 100 to over 200. I think > there could be something else going on. How many of you type 2's out there > would read like that in such a situation? > > Susie > > > > > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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