Re: alcohol and chiari-is there a relationship?

November 22, 1999

"duff" wrote:

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> This may be way out on 3rd base, but here it is--- our fathers were

alcoholics and a few others we've talk to have a parent(s) who also had

a problem with alcohol.

> > I know that researchers have located a gene in alcoholics that is

passed on to > their offspring, so we were wonderring if that same gene may be a

"link" in

> forming the chiari malformation........Anybody??

> Does this make sense to anyone? Is there any relationship to alcohol

abuse and

> a small posterior fossa?

-30-

My mother's father was an abusive alcoholic, so she is a tee-totaler. Never had a drink in her life. My dad may have one glass of wine a

year, if that. I've heard that the alcoholism gene often skips a

generation, so who knows?? But I am not an alcoholic, nor are either

of my sisters.

I was married to an abusive alcoholic once, though, and he did

physically abuse me in ways that could have had a long-term effect on

my head and neck. (Gotta love that dysfunctional cycle. Not!)

Food for thought . . .

God bless,

Sharon in Nashville

November 23, 1999

" duff " wrote:

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I kind of think that alcohol eats up so much of a body's suppliments,

mineral

supplys, and more, that alone could cause big problems, like " neural

tube defects " that are consistently repeated about on TV, now, and how

pre-prgnant mothers are supposed to be full of folate , etc. , to

avoid these defects.

alcohol depletes B vitimins, I know that much. Maybe it depletes

folate, as well ??? And other stuff that would cause the mold to be

made for chairi to " brew up " in the fetal stage.

, was said to have shared the blood with a fifth of booze a day ,

in her fetal stages. And born , with a celabration IV of alcohol to

stop DT problems, so we can only guess here since , she and her mother

share Neurofibromatosis, and possibly chairi.

We don't even know if her mother has symptoms.

November 23, 1999

" duff " wrote:

original article:/group/chiari/?start=27022

======================================================================

I kind of think that alcohol eats up so much of a body's suppliments,

mineral

supplys, and more, that alone could cause big problems, like " neural

tube defects " that are consistently repeated about on TV, now, and how

pre-prgnant mothers are supposed to be full of folate , etc. , to

avoid these defects.

alcohol depletes B vitimins, I know that much. Maybe it depletes

folate, as well ??? And other stuff that would cause the mold to be

made for chairi to " brew up " in the fetal stage.

, was said to have shared the blood with a fifth of booze a day ,

in her fetal stages. And born , with a celabration IV of alcohol to

stop DT problems, so we can only guess here since , she and her mother

share Neurofibromatosis, and possibly chairi.

We don't even know if her mother has symptoms.

November 23, 1999

I only have to have one glass of wine of any kind and you got it, wacking

headache within hours. It has happened several times so it has to

be related. regards Ann in Brisbane Australai

r wrote:

>Is

there any relationship to alcohol abuse and a small posterior fossa? I

would guess that many alcoholic fathers were also physical abusers (dunno

for sure about that), and a good couple of bashes to a child's head could

have easily triggered chiari syndrome from an up-til-then harmless malformation.Just

thinkin' aloud... ronny

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November 23, 1999

Dear Vicky , Dear Lady Miss talking to you, must call you soon, been thinkg

about you alot latley. Neither my parents were alcholics as you know, but

back in the late 50s early 60s I know most the mothers to be took certain

drugs, they thought were safe, Ive thought about that often, wondering if it

geneticaly altered my skull formation, I also wondered about the abuse

factors as babies who were pysicaly abused, but I do think first the

malformation itself has already taken place before the alchol or any abuse,

but it seems either of those things would amke a diffrence in how rapidly or

severe the Chiari became. Anways without getting into too much detail here, I

do belive certain factors in my own case are connected with my Chiari, that

are too personal for me to share at this point. But Im glad you brought this

all up, its a sensitive issue, but a very very good one Vicky. Love you

very mcuh sweet woman.

LOL Dawn

November 23, 1999

This is an interesting theory, since chronic alcoholism does deplete important

vitamins. Also, back in the stone age when I was born, pre-natal nutrition

seemed to be somewhat in the stone ages also. My mother smoked while

pregnant with all 5 of us. However, neither of my parents are

heavy drinkers. My mom drinks socially and my dad rarely drinks alcohol

at all.

Sheila

duff wrote:

Does this make sense

to anyone? Is there any relationship to alcohol abuse anda