Re: Just call me STUPID !!

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In a message dated 01-08-28 19:25:28 EDT, you write:

<< Now we have to get his settled. He said for lunch he had the

leftover london broil from last night's dinner a pice of a red potato

and salsa, no bread. >>

Well, I wouldn't have had the red potato...but it can't be the only thing

responsible for his numbers...Vicki

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---Sorry you are having all these problems. No , not stupid, just

haven't been given enough facts to work with, is my opinion. Someone

else can handle the hard part of this, I am still getting it together

myself, but as far as the exercising. Try a stationery bike, that

may be better for you than walking if your leg is bothering you a

lot. Just walk when you can and as much as you can without causing

pain in your leg. I have a leg problem also and can only do so

much. I have a bike that I picked up at a church sale for 10.00. It

is much easier on the joints as well. Swimming is also good if you

are a swimmer or water aroebics if you are allowed to do those. Also

easier on the joints.

I am on Actos and Glyburide and they are agreeing with me. I am

allergic to a lot of meds also. Your Dr. will best be able to decide

what will agree with you as well as what will best control your sugar

levels. I am doing well with the low carb though. Found that too

many carbs had my sugar soaring to unknown heights. I am pretty much

in the normal range most of the time, so am looking forward to a

lower Hba1c this time.

Soft foods you could eat sugar free jello, scrambled or soft boiled

egg, yogurt, pureed fruit, pureed vegetables and meat. sugar free

pudding,

Never stop trying, its when we stop that it gets out of control. I

idid the same thing. Figured what I didn't know, didn't exist. If

felt fine and did not check my readings. One day I checked and low

and behold the sky was the limit! I was able to get it back into

control and am very viligent with it now. I am watching what I eat

and how much and check after every meal. If it goes up I am

exercising right away.

Now we have to get his settled. He said for lunch he had the

leftover london broil from last night's dinner a pice of a red potato

and salsa, no bread. This should not have caused him to rise that

high. Of course he stated out high because of the very high one

laast night. I don't know. I am baffled as to what to do as well.

Anyone else out there that can help?

madge

In diabetes_int@y..., " mblae " <mblae@p...> wrote:

> I was diagnosed type 2 four years ago. . Diet and exercise

were enough

> until a year ago when my numbers got harder to control. My

doctor

> started me on Tolinase but that made me very groggy. He switched

me

> to Glucophage and that was terrible for me.

> I stopped the meds and went low carb low fat and walked a lot.

> Numbers went down and I thought I was set. I had a lot of gastric

problems

> eating low carb. I feel better with starchy foods. I didn't feel

well. I

> felt hungry all the time. I was able to add some potato and bread

back in

> my meals. I fell and hurt my knee last December which limited my

walking.

> I seem to

> do better and then relapse so my walking is not daily. I broke my

dentures

> in February and the few months of getting fittings and then the

adjustment

> had me needing soft foods. So my healthy eating fell away and my

bg's went

> up. I know better and yet, didn't seem to care. Stupid, I

know.

> Everyday I'd start out planning to eat healthy but didn't do it.

I didn't

> test much and just went along ignoring my diabetes.

>

> Last night my bg was 457 and that really upset me. Really got my

attention,

> finally. I called the advice nurse today to find out my A1c is

10.2. I

> have an appointment on Friday to see a doctor. My doctor is out on

> maternity leave right now so I'll be seeing a stranger. I hate

the idea of

> medication because I'm so sensitive to most drugs.

>

> Are there any diabetic drugs that don't cause any reactions? What

about

> insulin? I know I have to do something but not sure what. I am

eating

> low carb today and struggled through a 30 minute, one mile walk this

> morning. I'll walk again tonight. I'd appreciate suggestions. I

feel

> like I should know what to do but I don't.

>

> Thanks

> Laurel

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The potato could be part of the problem. Potato is quite high in carb

content and also has a high glycemic index, so it can raise blood sugar

levels quite a bit.

Tom the Actuary

-----Original Message-----

From: Madge910@...

....for lunch he had the leftover london broil from last night's dinner a

pice of a red potato and salsa, no bread. ...

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> What about

> insulin? I know I have to do something but not sure what. I am eating

> low carb today and struggled through a 30 minute, one mile walk this

> morning. I'll walk again tonight. I'd appreciate suggestions. I feel

> like I should know what to do but I don't.

***Personally, I love insulin, as it's the most natural way to control my

dm, besides diet and exercise, which isn't enough for me. After a few

months of figuring dosages, eating, testing, testing, testing, and keeping

good records, I had excellent control and a little flexibility in my food

choices. I don't like taking drugs, so this was a perfect solution for me,

and my understanding is that there are very very few people who have adverse

reactions to injected insulin. The only other thing I can think of about

insulin is that if you are eating lots of carbs and taking lots of insulin,

you'll start gaining weight, because insulin is a growth hormone. I keep my

carbs to 100 or a bit more per day, and this works great for me.

Glad you're headed back on track! and welcome!!

Barb

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--- the thing is he only had a piece of one and they are so little to

begin with. about the size of a paddle ball.

Madge

In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 01-08-28 19:25:28 EDT, you write:

>

> << Now we have to get his settled. He said for lunch he had the

> leftover london broil from last night's dinner a pice of a red

potato

> and salsa, no bread. >>

>

> Well, I wouldn't have had the red potato...but it can't be the only

thing

> responsible for his numbers...Vicki

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Laurel wrote

>I had a lot of gastric problems

> eating low carb. I feel better with starchy foods. I didn't feel

well. I

> felt hungry all the time. I was able to add some potato and bread

back in

> my meals. I fell and hurt my knee last December which limited my

walking..

I, too, have great difficulty on low carb. But I do recommend

avoiding starches like potato and bread, especially white bread or

any bread that isn't truly whole wheat. Best bread would be true

stone ground whole wheat with oatmeal or oat bran in it. And never

eat bread without some kind of good fat and/or protein (the worst

fats are trans-fats like those found in margarine...anytime you see

the word " hydrogenated " or " partially hydrogenated " on an ingredient

list).

Potatoes are especially BAD news for diabetics.

For carbs it is MUCH better to stick to fibrous ones...legumes like

various kinds of beans, most vegies (NOT corn or other starchy

vegies), fruits like apples, oranges, any kind of berry from

strawberry to blackberry.

The foods listed above are " low glycemic, " meaning that they don't

cause spikes as high as those caused by foods like sugar, white bread

and potatos. To choose " good carbohydrates " learn to use

the " glycemic index " ...it's an index that tells you about better and

worse carbohydrates for diabetics. Rick Mendosa, a member of this

list, is a leading authority on the glycemic index. Here's his

description:

http://www.mendosa.com/gi.htm

Here are his lists:

http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm

>I hate the idea of

> medication because I'm so sensitive to most drugs.

>

First, I hope you learn to hate the idea of high bg's more than you

hate ANYTHING. Nothing can destroy your life more than high bg's

(well, I suppose cancer, a speeding truck or a bullet could hurt you

more).

Second, drugs are all different, so they can't all be bad for you.

That is why it's a good idea to try them before deciding ahead that

they won't work for you. There is such a thing as a placebo effect,

but there's also such a thing as a " negative " placebo effect. If

you're sure that drugs will bother you, then you'll be likely to

blame any feeling you get on drugs you're taking, whether that's true

or not.

As a diabetic you're going to be dealing with doctors for many years,

so I hope you'll keep an open mind on medications.

In general I don't like drugs much myself and would rather not be on

them. I've had excellent result, though, by combining a low-glycemic

and moderate carbohydrate diet with the relatively new drug Actos.

Avandia is similar to Actos. I went from HbA1c 10.7 and fasting 258

to HbA1c 5.2 and typical fasting 95 on a low glycemic diet plus Actos.

Actos and Avandia can be used with other treatments including

insulin. They can significantly reduce the amount of insulin you

need because they make your body use insulin more effectively. As a

Type 2 diabetic part of your problem is that your body is resistant

to insulin, and you may actually have high insulin levels caused by

your pancreas's effort to break through the resistance.

Reducing your insulin requirements by making your body more sensitive

to insulin is a good thing because there is significant evidence that

even when your blood sugars are down, insulin levels that are too

high can cause damage.

T

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In a message dated 01-08-29 21:55:45 EDT, you write:

<<

So you are saying oranges are OK ?

>>

Well, you know how it is, ...YMMV. I can have one small segment of

orange without too much of a rise...more than that and I'm in trouble. Eat

and test, eat and test, keep good notes, smile...Vicki

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Hey, that's funny, Barb...I posted my response to the same post right before

reading this...and I said exactly the same thing...almost in the same words,

....great minds, y'know... <g> Vicki

In a message dated 01-08-29 22:11:53 EDT, you write:

<<

Oranges spike me pretty well, but they do have good fiber, . Berries

or 1/2 an apple are better, but, as always, YMMV - eat and test

<grin>.......and keep good notes.

Barb

>>

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So you are saying oranges are OK ?

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From: maryato@...

fruits like apples, oranges, any kind of berry from

strawberry to blackberry.

The foods listed above are " low glycemic, " meaning that they don't

cause spikes as high as those caused by foods like sugar, white bread

and potatos. To choose " good carbohydrates " learn to use

the " glycemic index " ...it's an index that tells you about better and

worse carbohydrates for diabetics. Rick Mendosa, a member of this

list, is a leading authority on the glycemic index. Here's his

description:

[Guest guest]

Oranges spike me pretty well, but they do have good fiber, . Berries

or 1/2 an apple are better, but, as always, YMMV - eat and test

<grin>.......and keep good notes.

Barb

> So you are saying oranges are OK ?

>