Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 In a message dated 12/09/2006 19:03:49 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: THAT turns my stomach but so be it. Holy **** woman, I only wish my weekly groceries came in that low! Thats UK prices for you. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 In a message dated 12/09/2006 22:07:51 GMT Daylight Time, nessy@... writes: have taken up Oriental dancing since coming to Switzerland (belly dancing to you and me) and unlike some of the other ladies, at least I have a belly to dance with! :)0< (that's my head, belly and legs I am about to do a workshop later this month. pse tell me how you are getting on with it? Is it easy for instance? Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 In a message dated 12/09/2006 22:18:46 GMT Daylight Time, nessy@... writes: .....but then I moved to Switzerland and it's even more expensive!!! that'll be their good choc choc! Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 In a message dated 12/09/2006 22:31:50 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: ONE day! Your day will come Val. Or if you can make it over here for a week later this month you can join me at my belly-dancing workshop. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Val, I'm so leery of high protein/low carb diets, because I started the Atkins diet in June of 2003, one month later I woke up with Grave's eye disease. And I really didn't lose weight despite being totally and utterly faithful, while exercising at least one hour a day. I always wondered if something in the diet triggered Grave's. So imagine being told that you are HyperT, despite low temps, low fatigue and an inability to lose weight. Then imagine being put on ANTI-thyroid meds!! Maybe it was a blessing because I was so mad that I got online in search of answers and found these support groups. Ugh. So, the treatment for Grave's made me gain even more weight. Honestly, I really feel like eating 800 calories a day is my only hope, while exercising. I've decided not to diet at all until I feel like my HC and thyroid meds are optimal. I don't want anything causing problems, including raising my Reverse T3, which was high the last time I checked it. Blahhhhhhhhhhhh. I need chocolate. SAMMIE wrote: Sammie, I did this eating more than I have eaten in my adult life! Starvation diets do not work for hypo people! It did take me almost 2 years to lose this, but who cares I am still only 2 years older and 100 pounds better! I eat something every 2 hours, which is also great for your adrenals. I stick with higher protein foods but I eat carbs too. I do not cut fats at all as I crave them. I usually have an organic steak and wither baked potato 9with butter & sour cream ) or a salad with a homemade dressing on it. I have yogurt cups I take with me to work and string cheese. I usually eat toast with butter in the mornings or if I feel like cooking an egg on toast with mayo. I usually eat when I get home from work which can be a couple boiled eggs, or toast with pnut butter. I do not snack alot. I do not eat things like crackers or chips or nuts (cause I can;t.. my lack of teeth) I do not eat cakes or cookies and when I eat ice cream it is low carb which is delicious and I do not feel that bit of splenda is gonna hurt me. My coffee has half & half and sugar (raw sugar) in it. Sometimes for dinner I will have bacon & eggs or pancakes (with butter and maple syrup, real thing only) & bacon. In other words I am able to eat pretty well and still lose weight. I pay alot more for groceries now as I am buying as much organic as I can. but I feel that is part of my better health now so it is worth it. I just got back from the grocery store and spent $72 that is for me for a week. THAT turns my stomach but so be it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Oh I am jealous!!! I have always wanted dot try Belly Dancing but whenever I get the urge, the energy and the where withal to do it, I can;t find an open class. Just was reading about a FULL one here locally in the paper yesterday. ONE day! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I got very sick on Atkins myself. For one thing I crave and seem to NEED milk daily. Two days of not drinking it and my fingernails start to crumble and split & break. My hair gets dry & frizzy. As long as I drink whole milk this does not happen. I lost 20 pounds on Atkins but then just felt weak and sick. Before that I used to use a 600 calorie a day diet... That even stopped working for me, so YUP been the diet route and doubt I will ever go there again. It just doesn;t work for hypos. Eating my way slimmer has been wonderful! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 what is the test for reverse T3? I was under the impression that it was not distinguishable in labs, from T3 -- Re: Re: newbie w/multi questions - weight gain Val, I'm so leery of high protein/low carb diets, because I started the Atkins diet in June of 2003, one month later I woke up with Grave's eye disease. And I really didn't lose weight despite being totally and utterly faithful, while exercising at least one hour a day. I always wondered if something in the diet triggered Grave's. So imagine being told that you are HyperT, despite low temps, low fatigue and an inability to lose weight. Then imagine being put on ANTI-thyroid meds!! Maybe it was a blessing because I was so mad that I got online in search of answers and found these support groups. Ugh. So, the treatment for Grave's made me gain even more weight. Honestly, I really feel like eating 800 calories a day is my only hope, while exercising. I've decided not to diet at all until I feel like my HC and thyroid meds are optimal. I don't want anything causing problems, including raising my Reverse T3, which was high the last time I checked it. Blahhhhhhhhhhhh. I need chocolate. SAMMIE wrote: Sammie, I did this eating more than I have eaten in my adult life! Starvation diets do not work for hypo people! It did take me almost 2 years to lose this, but who cares I am still only 2 years older and 100 pounds better! I eat something every 2 hours, which is also great for your adrenals. I stick with higher protein foods but I eat carbs too. I do not cut fats at all as I crave them. I usually have an organic steak and wither baked potato 9with butter & sour cream ) or a salad with a homemade dressing on it. I have yogurt cups I take with me to work and string cheese. I usually eat toast with butter in the mornings or if I feel like cooking an egg on toast with mayo. I usually eat when I get home from work which can be a couple boiled eggs, or toast with pnut butter. I do not snack alot. I do not eat things like crackers or chips or nuts (cause I can;t.. my lack of teeth) I do not eat cakes or cookies and when I eat ice cream it is low carb which is delicious and I do not feel that bit of splenda is gonna hurt me. My coffee has half & half and sugar (raw sugar) in it. Sometimes for dinner I will have bacon & eggs or pancakes (with butter and maple syrup, real thing only) & bacon. In other words I am able to eat pretty well and still lose weight. I pay alot more for groceries now as I am buying as much organic as I can. but I feel that is part of my better health now so it is worth it. I just got back from the grocery store and spent $72 that is for me for a week. THAT turns my stomach but so be it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Sammie, I was the SAME way, well I was not able to exercise but my job I have always managed to do and it is PHYSICAL. Most women my age could not do it, soI always thought of that as exercise. But when you are hypo and you cut calories your bdy stops converting T4 to T3 to conserve as you are in starvation mode. Your T4 is instead tu4rned into Reverse T3 and excreted. By eating a little something every 2 hours you convinece your body there is PLENTY of food so it stops this. I knwo I use dto poo poo it myself! LOL I remember telling people thta told me this, if I ate that much I would match the Goodyear Blimp in no time, but I have found out differently. TRY it! What ya got to lose but some pounds? but remember to keep the snacks more protein than carb, and do not eat all non fat foods. Your body needs fat to put out energy. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I missed this email yesterday. I dont know what to tell you. I requested a Reverse T3 test from my holistic doc's suggestions, and I had it done through my Endo. My lab slips says, Reverse T3 on it. It was a blood test. I can go through my files and find out where the lab was, but I'm pretty sure it was through Cedars Sinai in LA. However, they often send out to facilities for blood work, so I'll double check. SAMMIE " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: how is one tested for reverse T3? I thought T3 and reverse T3 were not distinguishible from testing and the molecules are the same configuration? Just want to know how one is tested, never heard of it. -- Re: Re: newbie w/multi questions - weight gain Val, I'm so leery of high protein/low carb diets, because I started the Atkins diet in June of 2003, one month later I woke up with Grave's eye disease. And I really didn't lose weight despite being totally and utterly faithful, while exercising at least one hour a day. I always wondered if something in the diet triggered Grave's. So imagine being told that you are HyperT, despite low temps, low fatigue and an inability to lose weight. Then imagine being put on ANTI-thyroid meds!! Maybe it was a blessing because I was so mad that I got online in search of answers and found these support groups. Ugh. So, the treatment for Grave's made me gain even more weight. Honestly, I really feel like eating 800 calories a day is my only hope, while exercising. I've decided not to diet at all until I feel like my HC and thyroid meds are optimal. I don't want anything causing problems, including raising my Reverse T3, which was high the last time I checked it. Blahhhhhhhhhhhh. I need chocolate. SAMMIE wrote: Sammie, I did this eating more than I have eaten in my adult life! Starvation diets do not work for hypo people! It did take me almost 2 years to lose this, but who cares I am still only 2 years older and 100 pounds better! I eat something every 2 hours, which is also great for your adrenals. I stick with higher protein foods but I eat carbs too. I do not cut fats at all as I crave them. I usually have an organic steak and wither baked potato 9with butter & sour cream ) or a salad with a homemade dressing on it. I have yogurt cups I take with me to work and string cheese. I usually eat toast with butter in the mornings or if I feel like cooking an egg on toast with mayo. I usually eat when I get home from work which can be a couple boiled eggs, or toast with pnut butter. I do not snack alot. I do not eat things like crackers or chips or nuts (cause I can;t.. my lack of teeth) I do not eat cakes or cookies and when I eat ice cream it is low carb which is delicious and I do not feel that bit of splenda is gonna hurt me. My coffee has half & half and sugar (raw sugar) in it. Sometimes for dinner I will have bacon & eggs or pancakes (with butter and maple syrup, real thing only) & bacon. In other words I am able to eat pretty well and still lose weight. I pay alot more for groceries now as I am buying as much organic as I can. but I feel that is part of my better health now so it is worth it. I just got back from the grocery store and spent $72 that is for me for a week. THAT turns my stomach but so be it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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