Re: Re: Test Results for Sheryl

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In a message dated 6/6/03 5:07:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, circe@...

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> 's husband excluded.

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Thanks!

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Hi All,

I am so upset. . .My gyno wrote down that she wanted Free T3 and Free T4. I

only got the Free T4. Oh well, I go to the Naturopath on Monday and she can run

the test. Although it will cost me.

OBTW. . .I didn't know that a low body temp is bad. I run around 97.4 sometimes

97.1. That is in the middle of they day. The nurses have always kind of

shrugged it off.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. I also have extremely low BP. When I went to

the gyno the other day the nurse said " Are you some kind of athlete or

something?' I laughed. It was 109/69. How come they are concerned about high

blood pressure and not low?

Okay now here is what I got for the results:

Hemoglobin 12.7------12.0 - 16

Glucose 6.5 -------7.0 - 11.0 (low)

Estradiol 220

TSH (sensitive) 3.36 --------0.35 - 5.5

Triiodothyronine T-3 124----- 60-180 (is this the Free T-3)

Thyroxine, Free (Free T4) 1.11 -----0.8 -1.80

Thyronxine T4 8.4------- 4.5 - 10.9

Follicle Stimulating Hormone 35.5

T7 2.7------- 1.4 - 3.1

Any comments would be welcome!

Thanks

Sheryl

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Gracia,

What does it mean when the TSH is too high?

Hugs

Sheryl

Gracia wrote:

TSH too high. Low body temp means low thyroid (along with other symptoms).

What IS wrong with these people? Kinda discouraging how many idiots there

are in the healthcare field. 's husband excluded.

Gracia

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am so upset. . .My gyno wrote down that she wanted Free T3 and Free T4.

I only got the Free T4. Oh well, I go to the Naturopath on Monday and she

can run the test. Although it will cost me.

>

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Thanks. . .I do that right now

suzizink wrote:It is possible the rresults of your FREE T3

is still coming...it has

always taken longer than the other labs when hubby has had it

done...call them and find out where it is....you will probably be

charged if she ordered it....sue in TN

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> Hi All,

>

> I am so upset. . .My gyno wrote down that she wanted Free T3 and

Free T4. I only got the Free T4. Oh well, I go to the Naturopath on

Monday and she can run the test. Although it will cost me.

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it means you are just plain hypothyroid! High TSH numbers mean your body

is asking for more thyroid hormone, but the gland just isn't able to produce

enough. The " normal range " is kind of meaningless. Healthy people with

healthy thyroid glands have a TSH around 1.

> Gracia,

>

> What does it mean when the TSH is too high?

>

> Hugs

> Sheryl

>

> Gracia wrote:

>

> TSH too high. Low body temp means low thyroid (along with other symptoms).

> What IS wrong with these people? Kinda discouraging how many idiots there

> are in the healthcare field. 's husband excluded.

> Gracia

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I am so upset. . .My gyno wrote down that she wanted Free T3 and Free

T4.

> I only got the Free T4. Oh well, I go to the Naturopath on Monday and she

> can run the test. Although it will cost me.

> >

>

>

>

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Wow, You guys know so much more than the doctors.

I sure hope my Naturopath knows as much as you guys.

Thanks

Sheryl

Gracia wrote:

it means you are just plain hypothyroid! High TSH numbers mean your body

is asking for more thyroid hormone, but the gland just isn't able to produce

enough. The " normal range " is kind of meaningless. Healthy people with

healthy thyroid glands have a TSH around 1.

> Gracia,

>

> What does it mean when the TSH is too high?

>

> Hugs

> Sheryl

>

> Gracia wrote:

>

> TSH too high. Low body temp means low thyroid (along with other symptoms).

> What IS wrong with these people? Kinda discouraging how many idiots there

> are in the healthcare field. 's husband excluded.

> Gracia

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I am so upset. . .My gyno wrote down that she wanted Free T3 and Free

T4.

> I only got the Free T4. Oh well, I go to the Naturopath on Monday and she

> can run the test. Although it will cost me.

> >

>

>

>

>

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Janie wrote

In case Gracia does not get to you in time...........it means that

your thyroid is not producing enough thyroid hormones, and your

pituitary gland is sending out the TSH to get the thyroid to

produce. Which it will not if you are hypo.

Janie,

I find it so amazing that doctors are all in the dark. Why don't they know

anything? Especially the endo docs.

How did you guys learn so much? Books?

I am so grateful to have this group.

Hugs

Sheryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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lotsa suffering, internet, books, in that order.

Gracia

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> How did you guys learn so much? Books?

>

> I am so grateful to have this group.

>

> Hugs

> Sheryl

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> Sheryl Illustrations

> http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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Janie wrote:

which caused docs to poo-poo already common knowledge such as paying

attention to body temp, symptoms, and a myriad of other obvious hypo

symptoms.

Janie,

People like me should baffle the docs. People that have body temps more than a

full degree lower than the norm.

I think if a person was walking around with a temp of 99.8 all the time and

sometimes a degree or two higher (which is the opposite spectrum of mine) they

would be very concerned.

SHeryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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> WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. I also have extremely low BP. When I

went to the gyno the other day the nurse said " Are you some kind of athlete

or something?' I laughed. It was 109/69. How come they are concerned

about high blood pressure and not low?

>

> Okay now here is what I got for the results:

Get those adrenals checked! Causes low blood sugar and low BP.

BTW, I generaly run about 92/60 lately. Unless I am totally stressed out,

108/62 is as high as you will see it go. They think thats good. Whatever. I

stand up and get a little dizzy if it goes too low. But, the truth is better

low than high unless it goes lower then mine. Decrases your chances for

heart disease!

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> I think if a person was walking around with a temp of 99.8 all the time

and sometimes a degree or two higher (which is the opposite spectrum of

mine) they would be very concerned.

>

> SHeryl

>

Sheryl,

You'd be surprised. Here I was on evil Levoxyl, low BP, heart rate at 120

sitting in the docs office, SWEATING, running a temp...but because MY TSH

was pretty to them, they didn't care not one little bit that I was sick.

Nope, didn't care about the high temp, racing heart, could harly walk,

sweating and face swolen and bags under my eyes etc etc etc....

They treat towards TSh, thats all. They couldn't care if you are sick on

either side of the spectrum.

('s Husband excluded)

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And, before I forget...a hypothyroid person with a 12 for a hemoglobin is

VERY VERY ANEMIC. Hypo causes false high hemoglobin on the CBC. Mine was

11.7 and my FE (iron) was 18 in a range like 50-180 (or something like that)

and my ferritin was a 4!!!!! I was so flipping anemic it was not funny,

terribly iron deficient. I would say to get the FE and ferritin levels

checked ASAP, but you may as well start taking iron today, because it is

going to be real real low. I am a nag about this...ask Janie. But it is in a

good way. But it is true!!!!! Janie was a mess and idn't even know it. You

would be VERY surprised to know how different you will feel when your body

starts maikng new red blood cells.

> Get those adrenals checked! Causes low blood sugar and low BP.

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> BTW, I generaly run about 92/60 lately. Unless I am totally stressed out,

> 108/62 is as high as you will see it go. They think thats good. Whatever.

I

> stand up and get a little dizzy if it goes too low. But, the truth is

better

> low than high unless it goes lower then mine. Decrases your chances for

> heart disease!

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wrote:

Get those adrenals checked! Causes low blood sugar and low BP.

BTW, I generaly run about 92/60 lately. Unless I am totally stressed out,

108/62 is as high as you will see it go. They think thats good. Whatever. I

stand up and get a little dizzy if it goes too low. But, the truth is better

low than high unless it goes lower then mine. Decrases your chances for

heart disease!

,

I go to the Naturopath on Monday, I will has her to check them. What can they

give you for them.

I get dizzy a lot too. My daughter also has low BP.

Yours is extremely low. Are you on medication for your adrenals?

Sheryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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Nope, didn't care about the high temp, racing heart, could harly walk,

sweating and face swolen and bags under my eyes etc etc etc....

,

It actually sounds like a sci-fi movie or a Twillight Zone episode (if your old

enough to remember). What a joke. These people are in denial. The part that

is sad is that the world considers them intelligent and needed.

Sheryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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Wrote:

would say to get the FE and ferritin levels checked ASAP, but you may as well

start taking iron today, because it is going to be real real low. I am a nag

about this...ask Janie.

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I asked the doc to check my iron cause I have been extremely low several times

in my life. Had to have iron shots one time and another time blood transfusion.

Gee you think she would have known to check my Ferritin levels. Now I know and

I shall never forget

I am glad you are a crusader for iron. I just had a 14 day period. .

..Peri-menopausal I am.

I have written that on my list for Monday as well. What kind of iron should I be

taking?

These groups are so vital!!!

Sheryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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> I have written that on my list for Monday as well. What kind of iron

should I be taking?

Janie is on one script for iron, I forget what her's is called. I am on

Niferex, which you also need a script for, its 150 mg in a capsule, very

absorbable, no consitipation or bloating...which is nice. OTC you get like

18 mg. That does nothing! I take a niferex and a multi with its measely 18

mg extra. I took 300 mg for 2 months daily until I felt better! My hemoglbin

is up to 14.1, the best it has ever been. I still take lots of iron though,

because when you are hypo, it is so easy to go iron deficient! (Also, it

will make your periods longer as well, not just peri but hypo will do that

too!) Remember to injest viatmin C, too. Helps you get that iron absorbed

and very good for adrenals. Glad you are aware how bad low iron can

be...sorry you have had to have a transfusion. My aunt has a problem with

her's too.

>>It actually sounds like a sci-fi movie or a Twillight Zone episode (if

your old enough to remember). What a joke. These people are in denial.

The part that is sad is that the world considers them intelligent and

needed.

Not ALL are bad. The one I have now is good, she got me on armour and tested

my adrenals. And she is very into nutrition. (and I have seen the twilight

zone, yes*LOL*)

>I go to the Naturopath on Monday, I will has >her to check them. What can

they give you for them. I get dizzy a lot too. My daughter also has low BP.

Yours is extremely low. Are you on medication for your adrenals?

Good for you going to the Naturopath. More than likely this doc will do more

for you than a clinical doc. No, I am not on Medication for my

adrenals...because most docs will try to treat low cortisol with supplements

before going with steriods. My cortisol is low normal, meaning that while my

levels are low, my cortisol is excreeted in the normal pattren for the day,

indicating that there is nothing wrong with them, they are just tired. What

most docs like to do (though there are ones who will give steriods right off

the bat) is have you take supplements to nourish your adrenal cortex and

allow it to rest. Some important things to take are Vit C, B complex, and I

take the amino acid L-Tyrosine as well. You can get glandular support, like

Isocort, which is supplement made of adrenal gland cortex and medula (kind

of like armour is made from real thyroid) and it also contains some

nutrients and L-Tyrosine. L-Tyrosine also supports thyroid function. I like

it. I also take selenium and zinc (helps that conversion from T4 to T3),

flax seed oil, the multi and extra iron, Co-Q 10, magnesium. You can also

take Siberian Ginseng and/or Maca to support adrenals. I feel OK for the

most part lately. I still have some issues, but I think I need the female

hormones checked...possibly peri myself, or something...I have the period

from hell right now.

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> These groups are so vital!!!

>

This is true! I have learned a lot here, and great people make the

difference, too. Sorry if I sound like a space cadet, I just woke up and

haven't had a cup of coffee yet.

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thwacksplat wrote:

You are hypothyroid when your TSH is high.

Zina,

Well considering that I was born with only a half a thyroid and have been sickly

and tired most of my life, that only makes sense.

This group is a life saver!! Literally.

All my life I suffered with period problems. . .Didn't even have one till they

gave me a hormone shot. I had trouble getting pregnant. Always tired, always

cold beyond the norm, headaches etc etc etc

Just think of all those people who have suffered needlessly because of the lack

of knowledge on the part of the medical doctors.

*Sigh*

Thanks guys

Sheryl

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http://dovedesignsrus.com/

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topper2@... wrote:

My mom's body temp was 97 for as long as I can remember.. she was never

tested... as far as I know... it was a running joke, kinda, to always let

them know her temp ran low....

Topper,

My husband has never understood my taking a sweater everywhere. He always said

" You have some kind of fear of getting cold or something. "

I never a winter person and always loved sitting in the sun. The warmth on my

skin was awesome.

Sheryl

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,

Thanks so much for all the information on iron. I have added it to my shopping

list for today.

I should have known I was low on iron as one of my symptoms all my life was

nausea while I eat. Actually looking at food made me ill sometimes. The other

day I was starving, and the thought of eating made me sick. But because I was

hungry I fixed some sugar peas. I thought I was going to barf the whole time I

ate them. I thought I had some kind of bug.

I think I tried that L-Tyrosine. It has been a couple of years ago. If I

remember right it me nervous, but I am willing to try it again. I also have MVP

like someone else on this list. Can't remember who. . .sorry. It affects

everything I take in. Sometimes my body (because of the MVP) just needs time to

adjust to something, and the racing heart can actually go away over time

Thanks again

Sheryl

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Mom was like that too... don't think this wrong.. I'm not trying to be

morbid.. but since she was always so cold.. we had a since of joy when we

found her grave at Fort Snelling National cemetery was on a hill facing

the southern sun.. she'd like that....

Topper ()

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Sheryl

writes:

> Topper,

>

> My husband has never understood my taking a sweater everywhere. He

> always said " You have some kind of fear of getting cold or

> something. "

>

> I never a winter person and always loved sitting in the sun. The

> warmth on my skin was awesome.

>

> Sheryl

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> Sheryl Illustrations

> http://dovedesignsrus.com/

>

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Oh shoot, what does this mean? I just had a lab slip made up for CBC and

ferritin. Is Fe different? I told her I wanted Iron and Ferritin and she

said " CBC? " and I said " ok " .

I think me and my doctor are really in the same boat. I know a little more

than her only because I have been reading up. But she seems teachable. So

we will do this. I'll have the information and she will have the power and

together we will work for my optimum health. I'll have to let her know of

my plan when I go back in! LOL

in AZ

Mom to Jenna(7), (7), (5), (4), Junie(2), Jillian (5 months)

and (3) & Duane(2) during regular business hours.

http://members.cox.net/bettendorf

>

>

> And, before I forget...a hypothyroid person with a 12 for a hemoglobin is

> VERY VERY ANEMIC. Hypo causes false high hemoglobin on the CBC. Mine was

> 11.7 and my FE (iron) was 18 in a range like 50-180 (or something like

that)

> and my ferritin was a 4!!!!!

> >

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Topper,

Actually that kind of brought a tear to my eye. I would like that too!

Sheryl

topper2@... wrote:

Mom was like that too... don't think this wrong.. I'm not trying to be

morbid.. but since she was always so cold.. we had a since of joy when we

found her grave at Fort Snelling National cemetery was on a hill facing

the southern sun.. she'd like that....

Topper ()

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Sheryl

writes:

> Topper,

>

> My husband has never understood my taking a sweater everywhere. He

> always said " You have some kind of fear of getting cold or

> something. "

>

> I never a winter person and always loved sitting in the sun. The

> warmth on my skin was awesome.

>

> Sheryl

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> Sheryl Illustrations

> http://dovedesignsrus.com/

>

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That hill is the first to go snow free every spring... Oh how I wished

the national cemeteries would let flowers be planted.. I would put in red

glads every spring... and red tulips every fall.... and of course

bouquets every time I could go....

Topper ()

http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Sheryl

writes:

> Topper,

>

> Actually that kind of brought a tear to my eye. I would like that

> too!

>

> Sheryl

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Gosh Topper,

You must have loved her terribly. That is such a touching scene. So sensitive.

.. .you make me all teary eyed again.

You know I have learned in life that people just can't leave others alone. Some

one is always going to open their mouth and ruin someone elses fun.

What you did was absolutely wonderful. Something between you and your Mom. It

was nobody elses business.

I think your Mom was smiling and wishing she could hug you!!

Blessings

Sheryl

topper2@... wrote:

Thanks... some folks have different feelings when it comes to how they

relate to folks that have passed on... Mom always told us it was good to

think about things like that (like the sunny side of the hill). She had a

beautiful Chinese Hibiscus tree... and the day of the funeral it had a

single red flower on it... Red was her favorite color.... I brought it

for her and put it in her hand.. Some of the relatives gave me crap

about that.. but she would have like that.. and I did it for her, and me,

not them.

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http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:35:34 -0000 " thwacksplat "

writes:

> Hi Topper,

>

> There is nothing morbid about this . . . its very touching.

>

> Zina

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Sheryl,

It was an especially hard time.. I didn't make it to the hospital in

time.. she was gone before I got there.... and she was buried on my

birthday.. that meant that it was " special " (is that even the right word

to use?) between me and her... she would never had chosen that time, had

she the option.

She had said for years that when her time came that we were not to cry,

that her leaving was the end to her pain.. we should be happy for her and

throw 'one helluva party' which we did.. friends, family and neighbors...

plenty of food and laughter and stories.. just the kind of party she

would have thrown. And many changed from fancy clothes into comfy

clothes..just as she would have told us to.

Topper ()

http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 08:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Sheryl

writes:

> Gosh Topper,

>

> You must have loved her terribly. That is such a touching scene. So

> sensitive. . .you make me all teary eyed again.

>

> You know I have learned in life that people just can't leave others

> alone. Some one is always going to open their mouth and ruin

> someone elses fun.

>

> What you did was absolutely wonderful. Something between you and

> your Mom. It was nobody elses business.

>

> I think your Mom was smiling and wishing she could hug you!!

>

> Blessings

> Sheryl