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<<<< I know you are busy and I am sorry to add to that but I could

do with some help. The constant low-level heart palpitations have

set in now; they got going this evening. This has happened before

during prolonged spells of dark weather and the only thing that stops

them is a good dose of sun. (So simple, so simple, and so impossible

to get.)

Apart from other effects like disturbing my sleep, agitating me,

making me feel weak, etc, I always end up with a very painful

headache and chestache when this goes on for more than a few hours.

In the past I've been driven by the blinding pain to have my Zydol, a

prescription opiate painkiller. It gives me something of a high too,

though I have always regarded it as a warning sign that this

medication is bad for me.

Do you know of anything I can do to ease the situation? I bought

tickets at a sealife centre in the nearest city, we were all planning

to go tomorrow, and I've been fretting about it for the last couple

of days because I've been getting so ill. The frustration this is

causing is beyond words. >>

** I want you to take a leap of faith and trust me on this.

What kind of magnesium do you have?

C

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<<In the past I've been driven by the blinding pain to have my Zydol,

a prescription opiate painkiller. It gives me something of a high

too, though I have always regarded it as a warning sign that this

medication is bad for me.>>

** Oy vey...this is tramadol. It has serotonin reuptake inhibitory

properties -- same as an SSRI. You should not take any more of this.

, the problems you describe are classic for people who have taken an

SSRI and stoppped taking it too quickly. It resolves when you get sun

because you believe it will.

Have you always not gotten reliable results from the light box? I

believe this is probably too stimulating for you in the amounts you use it.

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, what do you mean by low- level heart palpitations? I thought

heart palpitations always meant your heart was racing or like

skipping a beat........what does low-level mean please?

BTW, your frustration will be less if you accept thats just how

things are for now.....I used to get terribly frustrated with the

nerve pain in my feet ( because I want to walk Tob and do agility

again.....etc) the frustration was simply helping me to stay

ill.......I can accept that for now they are still bloody

painful....but there is still a vast improve in my health generally

than this time last year! So thats great!

Enjoy what you can do, don't be frustrated by what you cant.

You are doing so well hun

Love

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> ** Oy vey...this is tramadol. It has serotonin reuptake

inhibitory

> properties -- same as an SSRI. You should not take any more of

this.

OK . I didn't know it was tramadol, that's a more familiar

name to me. I haven't taken any in months; better throw it away from

the sound of it.

>

>

> , the problems you describe are classic for people who

have taken an

> SSRI and stoppped taking it too quickly. It resolves when you

get sun

> because you believe it will.

Last April, before I'd been on an antidepressant, the same thing

happened to me: dark spell of weather, heart palpitations. If I

could get about 20 minutes of sun they went away.

Could this be a very strong placebo effect then? I wonder how I can

start to re-program my thinking? The effects of getting sun are so

physical and so many.

>

>

> Have you always not gotten reliable results from the light

box? I

> believe this is probably too stimulating for you in the amounts

you use it.

I would love to cut it down, even eliminate it entirely at this time

of year. I find I can decrease the duration of treatment without

much trouble if it's been sunny. Otherwise, I find that my sleep is

affected -- get sleepy too early, wake up too early (i.e. 4 am) --

and that I'm crying most of the next day. I've tried to stick it out

a few times because some of the effects of the long amounts of light

are unpleasant too, but I find that it's best not to dive into that

emotional instability. I can't have my toddler seeing her mummy in

tears most of the time.

Last spring I managed to come down from 1 1/2 hours of light to 1/2

hour, but always felt bad when I tried to eliminate it completely.

It would be nice to discuss with you how to extract myself from this

situation; maybe it's best to leave that for a consultation. I was

able to calm myself a bit last night and make a plan: dose with

paracetamol today if pain gets bad; don't go to the sea life centre

if it's really bad, that's not the end of the world and there will

be other times. I won't touch the tramadol.

Thanks for your prompt reply .

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, what kind of magnesium do you have? I'll wait a few min.

for a reply but then I have to go to bed.

C

>

>

>

> > ** Oy vey...this is tramadol. It has serotonin reuptake

> inhibitory

> > properties -- same as an SSRI. You should not take any more of

> this.

>

> OK . I didn't know it was tramadol, that's a more familiar

> name to me. I haven't taken any in months; better throw it away

from

> the sound of it.

> >

> >

> > , the problems you describe are classic for people who

> have taken an

> > SSRI and stoppped taking it too quickly. It resolves when you

> get sun

> > because you believe it will.

>

> Last April, before I'd been on an antidepressant, the same thing

> happened to me: dark spell of weather, heart palpitations. If I

> could get about 20 minutes of sun they went away.

> Could this be a very strong placebo effect then? I wonder how I can

> start to re-program my thinking? The effects of getting sun are so

> physical and so many.

> >

> >

> > Have you always not gotten reliable results from the light

> box? I

> > believe this is probably too stimulating for you in the amounts

> you use it.

>

> I would love to cut it down, even eliminate it entirely at this

time

> of year. I find I can decrease the duration of treatment without

> much trouble if it's been sunny. Otherwise, I find that my sleep is

> affected -- get sleepy too early, wake up too early (i.e. 4 am) --

> and that I'm crying most of the next day. I've tried to stick it

out

> a few times because some of the effects of the long amounts of

light

> are unpleasant too, but I find that it's best not to dive into that

> emotional instability. I can't have my toddler seeing her mummy in

> tears most of the time.

>

> Last spring I managed to come down from 1 1/2 hours of light to 1/2

> hour, but always felt bad when I tried to eliminate it completely.

>

> It would be nice to discuss with you how to extract myself from

this

> situation; maybe it's best to leave that for a consultation. I was

> able to calm myself a bit last night and make a plan: dose with

> paracetamol today if pain gets bad; don't go to the sea life centre

> if it's really bad, that's not the end of the world and there will

> be other times. I won't touch the tramadol.

>

> Thanks for your prompt reply .

> .

>

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> , what kind of magnesium do you have? I'll wait a few min.

> for a reply but then I have to go to bed.

>

> C

I was having mag oxide but switched to citrate about 5 days ago. At

the moment I'm having 200mg twice a day. Hard to juggle that with the

calcium (citrate), which upsets my stomach unless I take it with a

meal.

Goodnight :)

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<< I was having mag oxide but switched to citrate about 5 days ago. At

> the moment I'm having 200mg twice a day. Hard to juggle that with

the

> calcium (citrate), which upsets my stomach unless I take it with a

> meal.>>

** Please dissolve a 200 mg tab or cap contents in 10 oz glass of

water each hour. Do this until about 5 pm. Let me know how you

feel. Skip the calcium today.

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Oh .............you've come a long way on your

journey; WE are so proud of you.

>

> , what do you mean by low- level heart palpitations? I

thought

> heart palpitations always meant your heart was racing or like

> skipping a beat........what does low-level mean please?

>

> BTW, your frustration will be less if you accept thats just how

> things are for now.....I used to get terribly frustrated with the

> nerve pain in my feet ( because I want to walk Tob and do agility

> again.....etc) the frustration was simply helping me to stay

> ill.......I can accept that for now they are still bloody

> painful....but there is still a vast improve in my health

generally

> than this time last year! So thats great!

>

> Enjoy what you can do, don't be frustrated by what you cant.

> You are doing so well hun

> Love

>

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" Oh .............you've come a long way on your

> journey; WE are so proud of you. "

I wouldn't have made it even half way without you J, love you so much.

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