zyprexa withdrawal

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Hey all, Some people might remember me from last summer when I posted here a few times. Since then I have had to drop out of University, break up with my fiancee, move back in with my parents and alter my career plans from wanting to be a novelist to borrowing money from my folks to take an AZ truck driving course. All because I took Zyprexa for a month last April. Does anyone have any experience with this drug, or have any ideas about how I can improve my mental state? I literally cannot form a single thought in my head, and I have tried many different things to try and remedy the situation. I've tried taking a low dose and coming off it slowly ('s idea), I've tried taking a high dose to see if it would stimulate my brain (my idea), I've tried taking a variety of different drugs from lithium to other antipsychotics to a few different antidepressants (a few different psychiatrists ideas) and it has all been in

vain. If anyone has any productive suggestions you might be helping to save a life, but please do not mention diet, something very seriously wrong has happened to my brain and it cannot be fixed with soy milk and rice, or fish oil or any other natural substance. Thoughtlessness has to be the worst state in the world, every morning I wake up from my dreams and curse myself that I will have to go through another day in the state I am in. My emotions range from regretting having not commited suicide, to wanting to commit suicide, to wanting to firebomb the corporate headquarters of Eli Lilly (they make Zyprexa), to hating different psychiatrists and social workers I have met over the past couple of years. The worst thing about it is no one believes me except for a few people on different messsageboards on the internet - my parents believe the psychiatrists and think I have "manic depression", whatever that is supposed

to be, all my friends think I'm just depressed and should toughen up, the "Doctors" are so pompous and self-satisfied and they think they have helped me, I hate them the most, especially the one who thought it would be a "good idea" for me to spend a month in the hospital, when I was a little depressed and grieving the death of a friend. I still refuse to believe that this drug has permanently fried my brain. I'm starting to see a neurologist soon and I am hopeful that he has some answers because if he doesn't I really don't know what I'm going to do. If someone knows something about this phenemenon (not being able to think) as a result of taking Zyprexa or another psychotropic drug and can offer a solution then PLEASE help me because there is no way I can spend another 60 years the way I have spent the last one and I am quickly running out of ideas about what I can do, Hope this

finds you well, Matt McCormack

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>

> Hey all,

>

> Some people might remember me from last summer when I posted

here a few times. Since then I have had to drop out of University,

break up with my fiancee, move back in with my parents and alter my

career plans from wanting to be a novelist to borrowing money from

my folks to take an AZ truck driving course. All because I took

Zyprexa for a month last April. Does anyone have any experience with

this drug, or have any ideas about how I can improve my mental

state? I literally cannot form a single thought in my head, and I

have tried many different things to try and remedy the situation.

I've tried taking a low dose and coming off it slowly ('s

idea), I've tried taking a high dose to see if it would stimulate my

brain (my idea), I've tried taking a variety of different drugs from

lithium to other antipsychotics to a few different antidepressants

(a few different psychiatrists ideas) and it has all been in vain.

If anyone has any productive suggestions you might be

> helping to save a life, but please do not mention diet, something

very seriously wrong has happened to my brain and it cannot be fixed

with soy milk and rice, or fish oil or any other natural substance.

>

> Thoughtlessness has to be the worst state in the world, every

morning I wake up from my dreams and curse myself that I will have

to go through another day in the state I am in. My emotions range

from regretting having not commited suicide, to wanting to commit

suicide, to wanting to firebomb the corporate headquarters of Eli

Lilly (they make Zyprexa), to hating different psychiatrists and

social workers I have met over the past couple of years. The worst

thing about it is no one believes me except for a few people on

different messsageboards on the internet - my parents believe the

psychiatrists and think I have " manic depression " , whatever that is

supposed to be, all my friends think I'm just depressed and should

toughen up, the " Doctors " are so pompous and self-satisfied and they

think they have helped me, I hate them the most, especially the one

who thought it would be a " good idea " for me to spend a month in the

hospital, when I was a little depressed and grieving the

> death of a friend.

>

> I still refuse to believe that this drug has permanently fried

my brain. I'm starting to see a neurologist soon and I am hopeful

that he has some answers because if he doesn't I really don't know

what I'm going to do. If someone knows something about this

phenemenon (not being able to think) as a result of taking Zyprexa

or another psychotropic drug and can offer a solution then PLEASE

help me because there is no way I can spend another 60 years the way

I have spent the last one and I am quickly running out of ideas

about what I can do,

>

> Hope this finds you well,

>

>

> Matt McCormack

Hi Matt,

Welcome back to the group.

You said:

If anyone has any productive suggestions you might be

> helping to save a life, but please do not mention diet, something

>very seriously wrong has happened to my brain and it cannot be

>fixed with soy milk and rice, or fish oil or any other natural

>substance.

Well, I'm going to do exactly what you didn't want, I'm going to

talk about food . But bear with me, I'll keep it short. I'm

saying this because, as I think you're beginning to realize, the

other stuff isn't working for you.

Matt, I used to feel exactly like you. I thought that if food and

supplements worked so well, then why didn't the medical profession

recommend them for healing instead of medications? I'm beginning to

realize that 99% of the population really doesn't understand the

healing capacity of food, but that's another post.

I think what's important to realize about food is that it's not just

about what you eat....it's as much if not more about what you stop

eating. Many of the foods on the market today really, seriously are

toxic, and you see stories about that appearing in the media more

each day.

I had the exact same feelings you are describing. My thinking was

foggy and I felt sluggish and depressed. In my case, it was almost

ALL food-based. I think I had some serious food allergies that were

causing a LOT of depressive, mental symptoms for me. All of that

began to change when I dropped the sugar, caffeine, artificial

sweetener and starchy foods. I'm not sure how you're eating, but

the " bad stuff " really can cause the symptoms you're describing.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox. Basically, though, I'm just trying to say

don't minimize the dietary changes. If you give it a try I think

you would really see a difference.

Best to you,

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--- Matt McCormack wrote:

> Hey all,

>

> Some people might remember me from last summer

> when I posted here a few times. Since then I have

> had to drop out of University, break up with my

> fiancee, move back in with my parents and alter my

> career plans from wanting to be a novelist to

> borrowing money from my folks to take an AZ truck

> driving course. All because I took Zyprexa for a

> month last April. Does anyone have any experience

> with this drug, or have any ideas about how I can

> improve my mental state?

****Hi Matt,

My husband took several different anti

psychotics that are very similar to Zyprexa last year.

His doctor kept switching them, adding anti

depressants, etc.. His mental state only got worse

until he did attempt suicide and was hospitalized. We

know what an awful experince that is as do many

members on this board I'm sure.

He is now slowly withdrawing from Geodon, then

will tackle the others. He is also taking vitamins and

supplements and changing his diet. The diet changes

are hard for him, but the right FOOD DOES HEAL and BAD

food DOES HARM. What you have experienced is common

with these drugs, especially if you've started and

stopped several the past year.

I'm sure can help you, but you have to

be willing to try her suggestions. If you are doubting

that proper diet and supplements work, read over the

files about the members stories. People here have

been successful at coming off these drugs, healing,

and havng a good life.

Everyone here understands that not many people

believe you and that you rarely find support from the

medical community. Don't give up. We know there is

hope!

Best Wishes,

>

>

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Hello Matt!

I am new here. Don't know about Zyprexa. My problem is Paxil, an

SSRI. I have been where you are. Twice I have thought I was at

death's door. Unable to think, in utter and complete anguish.

Thought my life was over because I was unable to function. I had

to take the Paxil to get me through those times even though I hated

the Paxil for getting me into this mess to begin with. Hang on! Life

is worth living and a year from now this nightmare will only be a bad

memory!

I think it was Hippocrates who said something like, " Let thy food be

thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food. " My advice is to eat only

homecooked food-no fast food. NO SUGAR! It is a poison to your body.

Extra virgin olive oil, fresh pressed garlic, fish oils are GOOD for

your body.

Hang in there! It is always darkest right before the dawn. You will

come through this! Accept that you are going to suffer for awhile,

but then will come the victory! People care about you and people in

this group UNDERSTAND totally!

Donna

>

> Hey all,

>

> Some people might remember me from last summer when I posted here

a few times. Since then I have had to drop out of University, break

up with my fiancee, move back in with my parents and alter my career

plans from wanting to be a novelist to borrowing money from my folks

to take an AZ truck driving course. All because I took Zyprexa for a

month last April. Does anyone have any experience with this drug, or

have any ideas about how I can improve my mental state? I literally

cannot form a single thought in my head, and I have tried many

different things to try and remedy the situation. I've tried taking a

low dose and coming off it slowly ('s idea), I've tried

taking a high dose to see if it would stimulate my brain (my idea),

I've tried taking a variety of different drugs from lithium to other

antipsychotics to a few different antidepressants (a few different

psychiatrists ideas) and it has all been in vain. If anyone has any

productive suggestions you might be

> helping to save a life, but please do not mention diet, something

very seriously wrong has happened to my brain and it cannot be fixed

with soy milk and rice, or fish oil or any other natural substance.

>

> Thoughtlessness has to be the worst state in the world, every

morning I wake up from my dreams and curse myself that I will have to

go through another day in the state I am in. My emotions range from

regretting having not commited suicide, to wanting to commit suicide,

to wanting to firebomb the corporate headquarters of Eli Lilly (they

make Zyprexa), to hating different psychiatrists and social workers I

have met over the past couple of years. The worst thing about it is

no one believes me except for a few people on different

messsageboards on the internet - my parents believe the psychiatrists

and think I have " manic depression " , whatever that is supposed to be,

all my friends think I'm just depressed and should toughen up,

the " Doctors " are so pompous and self-satisfied and they think they

have helped me, I hate them the most, especially the one who thought

it would be a " good idea " for me to spend a month in the hospital,

when I was a little depressed and grieving the

> death of a friend.

>

> I still refuse to believe that this drug has permanently fried my

brain. I'm starting to see a neurologist soon and I am hopeful that

he has some answers because if he doesn't I really don't know what

I'm going to do. If someone knows something about this phenemenon

(not being able to think) as a result of taking Zyprexa or another

psychotropic drug and can offer a solution then PLEASE help me

because there is no way I can spend another 60 years the way I have

spent the last one and I am quickly running out of ideas about what I

can do,

>

> Hope this finds you well,

>

>

> Matt McCormack

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

HI Matt,

I was on zyprexa for 3 weeks and stopped cold turkey

and had the same problem you have. I am now on

risperdal becuase I ended up in the hospital again on

more drugs.

Like you I felt my brain stopped functioning, I was

very depressed and hopeless.

But unlike you, I really believe what is

doing - and it works! Under her guidance I have

radically changed my diet, take supplements and

practice tai chi and yoga. I also do an active

mediation daily.

Ok, so my mind is not the same as before but my body

feels greaat and my mood is much better. Sometimes I

have to deal with withdrawals, but with such a healthy

life style I can cope.

And, I notice my intellegence is coming back. I

acutually with all the brain damage from the drugs,

witness that I am very intelligent especially when I

am around people. I am very calm and patient and can

really help others.

My point is working with has really helped

me but I do the work, every day to recover. I am on

..7 mg of risperdal, I started at 2 mg. I work part at

a very interesting job and am becoming more and more

creative. I play guitar and cook amazing healthy

food.

I also realize there are alot of spiritual lessons,

like letting go, accept, and surrender. I had to

actively forgive my family and the mental health

system here in Canada for I also felt my life was

destroyed.

Truly trust , for she is a healer. Get

interested in health and nutrition, meditation, flower

essence, yoga - it can really make a difference.

Remember, life is about learning!

Sincerely,

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C Creel wrote...

>

> When we are born, are our mothers given drug kits prior to

leaving the

> hospital in order to keep us alive? No, they're not. So what is

it that

> keeps a body optimally performing?

Wow...good point !

I think we need to start with the premise that we are designed to be

healthy, not sick. And it doesn't matter if a person is an

evolutionist or a creationist, I think it's a carved in stone fact

that we are designed to be a success. IF we " run the equipment " the

way it was designed to be run.

And neither evolution or our creator designed us to run on the

terrible diet that is common to the western world. Native people

living in the jungle eat better than the average American, because

they are eating what they were designed to eat.

Genetic defects are rare, because they are anti-survival. In my

opinion, we should start with the idea that we are perfectly

designed, and not assume otherwise until we are sure we

are " operating the equipment " right.

And if we did come with " owners manuals " we would NOT find Zyprexa

or any other such poisons mentioned in it!

My best to you all,

Dan