Re: will my head ever be normal again???

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I am out of my zyprexa, won't be able to get any till Monday, My pharmacy is closed on Sunday, I live in a small town. I take 10mgs. I hope I don't have a reaction of withdrawl...aaarrrrggghh. I hate these drugs too.Hates Psychiatrists wrote: I've posted here a time or 2 before...I went off 2.5mg zyprexa cold turkey right before Thanksgiving.Believe it or not, I have had insomnia ever since.Also, my head feels constantly weird, as if there is aglass wall between me and the world. This never goesaway.Will I ever be normal again???I hate these drugs!!-Lily__________________________________________________

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Dear Lily,

You said:

<<I've posted here a time or 2 before...I went off 2.5

mg zyprexa cold turkey right before Thanksgiving.

Believe it or not, I have had insomnia ever since.

Also, my head feels constantly weird, as if there is a

glass wall between me and the world. This never goes

away.>>

** There's nothing strange about what you're experiencing. This is

the course your body takes when you abruptly stop a drug like this.

In most cases, I don't recommend beginning the drug again once 6 weeks

have passed. Since we're talking about Zyprexa here, this window of

opportunity may be larger. Your best bet right now is to go back on at the

dose of 2.5 mg. It may take a few days to become stable. At that point, we

can talk about small decreases so you can get off this without doing more

damage to yourself. What I can tell you is that nothing will change for

quite awhile if you choose not to go back on the drug. There is very little

we can do to help with a cold turkey withdrawal. This is your brain and

body telling you it can't handle this kind of shock. Please pay attention

to it.

Regards,

" Every science touches art at some points while

every art has its scientific side; the worst man

of science is he who is never an artist, and the

worst artist is he who is never a man of science. "

[Armand Trousseau]

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Dear Sharon,

You said:

<<I am out of my zyprexa, won't be able to get any till Monday, My pharmacy

is closed on Sunday, I live in a small town. I take 10mgs. I hope I don't

have a reaction of withdrawl...aaarrrrggghh.>>

** With as much as you take, if you experience any withdrawal at all it

will be slight. Mon. isn't that far off.

BTW, good news! The " bipolar " to which you refer can be healed where

you won't have to take drugs anymore.

The borderline personality can also be healed -- if you are committed to

the process.

Regards,

" Every science touches art at some points while

every art has its scientific side; the worst man

of science is he who is never an artist, and the

worst artist is he who is never a man of science. "

-- Armand Trousseau

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, Thanks for the info. It's good to know I probably won't have any withdrawl and I'll be OK till Mon. I didn't know I could be off medication for BiPolar, that's good to know too. And , thanks for the encouraging words. Sharon C Creel wrote: Dear Sharon, You said:<<I am out of my zyprexa, won't be able to get any till Monday, My pharmacy is closed on Sunday, I live in a small town. I take 10mgs. I hope I don't have a reaction of withdrawl...aaarrrrggghh.>> ** With as much as you take, if you experience any

withdrawal at all it will be slight. Mon. isn't that far off. BTW, good news! The "bipolar" to which you refer can be healed where you won't have to take drugs anymore. The borderline personality can also be healed -- if you are committed to the process.Regards,"Every science touches art at some points whileevery art has its scientific side; the worst manof science is he who is never an artist, and theworst artist is he who is never a man of science."-- Armand Trousseau

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Thanks, . So, could a constant headache also

be caused by the cold turkey w/d?

I can't believe I have been this long with barely any

sleep. I feel like I will collapse.

So you're saying I should go back on 2.5mg even though

it's been several months now?

Thanks.

--- C Creel wrote:

> Dear Lily,

>

> ** There's nothing strange about what you're

> experiencing. This is

> the course your body takes when you abruptly stop a

> drug like this.

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Dear Lily,

You said:

> Thanks, . So, could a constant headache also

> be caused by the cold turkey w/d?>>

** There's no question about it. Everyone has this happen when

they've abruptly discontinued a drug.

>

> I can't believe I have been this long with barely any

> sleep. I feel like I will collapse.>>

** You have collapsed. This is what a collapse is. But the lack

of sleep is not the cause -- the withdrawal is.

>

> So you're saying I should go back on 2.5mg even though

> it's been several months now?>>

You went off in Nov, right? I think it is well-worth a try. I

think it may work seeing as how it's an anti-psychotic drug.

Regards,

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how long have u been without sleep? just curious . im in the same situation now that i have chucked all psychiatric drugs. i never had a problem with sleep until they put me on their "therapeutic" drugs. i expect that i could go without any sleep for several weeks.

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>

> how long have u been without sleep? just curious . im in the same

situation now that i have chucked all psychiatric drugs. i never had

a problem with sleep until they put me on their " therapeutic " drugs.

i expect that i could go without any sleep for several weeks.>>

Dear Marilyn,

You could go months to years with very little sleep by going cold

turkey. It's the worst thing you could do for yourself.

To everyone reading this, Marilyn has explained to me that she

abruptly discontinued 3 drugs. She will be posting more about this.

Those of you who did this please speak up and help Marilyn not to

make the same mistake. Thx.

Regards,

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I have been without sleep since I came out of the

hospital right before Christmas. Prior to that, I went

off Zyprexa c/t right before T-giving and had been

without sleep all that time. I found out-they gave me

Ativan and Valium in the hospital, so it is likely I

am suffering from benzo withdrawal, too!

--- Marilyn Baker wrote:

> how long have u been without sleep? just curious .

> im in the same situation now that i have chucked all

> psychiatric drugs. i never had a problem with sleep

> until they put me on their " therapeutic " drugs. i

> expect that i could go without any sleep for several

> weeks.

>

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Dear Lily,

You said:

<<I have been without sleep since I came out of the

hospital right before Christmas. Prior to that, I went

off Zyprexa c/t right before T-giving and had been

without sleep all that time.>>

** While I appreciate how severe the insomnia is, I have to ask that we

not let our emotional perceptions override intellect and fact. Human

beings die after approximately 264 hours with no sleep. That is 11 days.

I've never, in over 20 years, seen a person in withdrawal die from lack of

sleep or not sleep at all for 11+ days nor is there medical literature

supporting that people in withdrawal have done this.

The majority of people in withdrawal get small amounts of sleep and it is

very difficult for them. It's very important for new people to be able to

get facts here.

You said:

<< I found out-they gave me

Ativan and Valium in the hospital, so it is likely I

am suffering from benzo withdrawal, too!>>

** How long were you in the hospital?

Regards,

" Every science touches art at some points while

every art has its scientific side; the worst man

of science is he who is never an artist, and the

worst artist is he who is never a man of science. "

[Armand Trousseau]

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I was in the hospital 12/14/05-12/22/05.

I do get small amounts of sleep, like you said-2 or 3

hours at most.

--- C Creel wrote:

> Dear Lily,

> ** While I appreciate how severe the insomnia

> is, I have to ask that we

> not let our emotional perceptions override intellect

> and fact. Human

> beings die after approximately 264 hours with no

> sleep. That is 11 days.

> I've never, in over 20 years, seen a person in

> withdrawal die from lack of

> sleep or not sleep at all for 11+ days nor is there

> medical literature

> supporting that people in withdrawal have done this.

>

>

> The majority of people in withdrawal get small

> amounts of sleep and it is

> very difficult for them. It's very important for new

> people to be able to

> get facts here.

> ** How long were you in the hospital?

>

>

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