Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 In a message dated 3/8/01 10:40:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Some people think that they have the right to be angry at someone because > they possibly intentionally or (unintentially) mislead them about a WORKOUT > TAPE!! Sheesh! If you don't like it, and you think that it's misleading > and against your beliefs in a religion, then don't DO THE TAPE, return > them! I totally agree. And the ones who have there nerve to call the WTC and ask to talk to about this need to get a life! If you are mad, write a letter. Return the tapes. Don't call the man at his place of business and take time away from his clients. That just isn't right, IMHO. who probably shouldn't have said anything because it might get repeated over there, but oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 " Some people think that they have the right to be angry at someone because they possibly intentionally or (unintentially) mislead them about a WORKOUT TAPE!! Sheesh! If you don't like it, and you think that it's misleading and against your beliefs in a religion, then don't DO THE TAPE, return them! " Amy, I gotta say, I like your style!!! I feel exactly the same way!!! Janick who can't wait til this discussion is over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 and I just wanted to add one more thing. Those who know the many 'trials and tribulations' that some people have had with NCP can relate to this. I think this person at Video Fitness has said it all in a nutshell: " I thought it was OK to tape something if it's for your own use. It's not like you are taping them and turning around and selling them. I believed them when they said they were brand new--not just new to video. I consider this a marketing fiasco. It's turned me off Taebo and I didn't get Tae Bo TV. " Also - for the record - If you own a CD, or DVD, and you want to 'burn' a copy for backup for your own purposes, that is perfectly legal. Afterall, you paid for the CD or DVD (or VHS) and you have the right to make a backup copy to prevent later inability of use due to wear and tear. So what is the difference (legally or theoretically) between taping a VHS to a VHS and taping a Paid FOR TV program (PPV) to a VHS...?? Hmm. Points to Ponder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Sorry to have dredged up this topic again. I just think that a lot of people like to 'write their reports' without doing the research... you know? Sometimes you just have to stop to THINK about what you are getting all riled up about... No one forces you to buy a tape, to spend your money, or to workout to it either. Lord knows, no one forces ME to workout. Sometimes I wish they would though... Would really help on those lazy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I have something to add to the point below. When I received my survey from DirecTV about TBTV, one of the questions was about if you taped the workouts. One option was if you taped them to do the workouts at a later date, another was if you taped them because the workout times didn't fit into your schedule, or if you taped them to share with a friend. That right there tells you that it's OK to tape them for your own personal use. Whoever said it's illegal is just plain wrong. Ann Marie - who can't believe how stirred up people over at Video Fitness are getting > > " I thought it was OK to tape something if it's for your own use. It's > not like you are taping them and turning around and selling them. I > believed them when they said they were brand new--not just new to > video. I consider this a marketing fiasco. It's turned me off Taebo > and I didn't get Tae Bo TV. " > > Also - for the record - If you own a CD, or DVD, and you want > to 'burn' a copy for backup for your own purposes, that is perfectly > legal. Afterall, you paid for the CD or DVD (or VHS) and you have > the right to make a backup copy to prevent later inability of use due > to wear and tear. So what is the difference (legally or > theoretically) between taping a VHS to a VHS and taping a Paid FOR TV > program (PPV) to a VHS...?? > > Hmm. Points to Ponder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I remember reading somewhere about teh survey for PPV - asking if you taped these. Now I don't know much about legalities, but I would figure they were looking to find out 1 of a few things. 1) if you were taping them, and planning on using them later - BECAUSE they were planning on packaging them up and marketing them as they have done (figuring if everyone checks yes to this, it might not be a good idea!) the other thing is just because they asked people if they copied the tapes or not - doesn't necessarily make it legal. Why? What if comcast sent out a survey with your bill and asked you if you have a cable box descrambler? Now, we all know *those* are illegal, but if you are dumb enough to check YES - does that mean that comcast can't fine you or put you in jail? At any rate - I tend to agree with you Ann, if they are going to ask you if, when and why you copied the program, then wouldn't you either say " well yes I did, because " or " Damn..(kicking myself in butt) why didn't I tape those? " Misleading all the way around if you ask me! Another Point to Ponder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 --- Whoever said it's illegal is just plain wrong. > The person who said it was illegal to tape them was April,a Customer Service Representative at Taebo. I think if she had handled her response a lot better there would have been a much smaller pot stirred. I mean sheesh...another example of the customer is always right? Really, there must have been a better way to handle this on April's part. I would have been mightly put off if she had said that to me as well. JMHO Hedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I agree with you whole heartedly... They could have handled that better. But see, we prove right here the one thing they already know... that most of us will still continue to buy the tapes anyways. I would have been pretty angry at a reply like that. It sort of treats the customer as if they are stupid. Maybe the term " anal retentive " could be better used elsewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 What bothers me most about the whole discussion over there is when they call 's Christianity into play. Are they perfect? They are not even giving him the benefit of the doubt. They feel wronged and they're going to jump on anything that makes them feel better. Personally, I think they need to get a life, or at least a good hobby! Joan - who said more than people probably wanted to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Since I originally cross-posted the information from Video Fitness, I just wanted to apologize if anyone thought I was putting down the people on the forum. I was just trying to point out the response from customer service. I really thought about whether or not it would be ok to post the information and decided to go ahead and post it since it had to do with the response someone got from customer service and QVC. I tried to make sure only to post the relevant info. and keep names, etc. out of it. Normally, I don't cross post information and I hope I haven't caused a ruckus by doing so. Sorry!! Colleen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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