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Carolyn,

That is 2 hrs one-way, which I am willing to do for good milk. But, as

of this morning, there is a solution to my problem! A new dairy farm,

only about an hour and 15 min away with Jersey's!! I'm thrilled!!!

Thanks to this wonderful group, I've found a new farmer!

carolyn_graff wrote:

>

> can you start a carpool to the other farm? that's what people do here.

> they take turns

> driving to a farm that is 60 miles away, one-way. when you say 2

> hours, is that 2 hours

> one-way or round-trip?

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a

> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

> milk to

> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the

> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing

> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers

> > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first

> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on

> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in

> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until

> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> > Happy New Year!

> >

>

>

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Is your organic milk raw??????????/

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!

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Is your organic milk raw??????????/

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!

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Is your organic milk raw??????????/

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!

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Spend a week at any farm during haying or birthing and you would think $15.00 is cheap ! I do not charge much more than the stores. I know I should charge a little more but I am happy with what I get . I do not want people to pay a fortune to have good clean milk.

Patty

Re: dairy farm in PA can't keep up with demand!

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15 a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!>

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Spend a week at any farm during haying or birthing and you would think $15.00 is cheap ! I do not charge much more than the stores. I know I should charge a little more but I am happy with what I get . I do not want people to pay a fortune to have good clean milk.

Patty

Re: dairy farm in PA can't keep up with demand!

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15 a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!>

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Spend a week at any farm during haying or birthing and you would think $15.00 is cheap ! I do not charge much more than the stores. I know I should charge a little more but I am happy with what I get . I do not want people to pay a fortune to have good clean milk.

Patty

Re: dairy farm in PA can't keep up with demand!

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15 a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.peace & blessings,Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!>

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Don't know what your prices in the US are for pasturized milk, but here

in Canada we pay $5.00 / gallon for the dead store junk.

Tisha

Kalyna Caprine

junipernabby wrote:

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk

sells

for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen

>

> Hi All,

> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

do a

> little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

milk to

> keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

the

> most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

amazing

> and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

customers

> that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

first

> serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

on

> that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

in

> the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

until

> the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> Happy New Year!

>

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Don't know what your prices in the US are for pasturized milk, but here

in Canada we pay $5.00 / gallon for the dead store junk.

Tisha

Kalyna Caprine

junipernabby wrote:

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk

sells

for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen

>

> Hi All,

> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

do a

> little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

milk to

> keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

the

> most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

amazing

> and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

customers

> that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

first

> serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

on

> that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

in

> the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

until

> the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> Happy New Year!

>

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Don't know what your prices in the US are for pasturized milk, but here

in Canada we pay $5.00 / gallon for the dead store junk.

Tisha

Kalyna Caprine

junipernabby wrote:

Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk

sells

for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

peace & blessings,Jen

>

> Hi All,

> Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

do a

> little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

milk to

> keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

the

> most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

amazing

> and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

customers

> that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

first

> serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

on

> that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

in

> the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

until

> the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> Happy New Year!

>

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I pay just under $7 for a gal raw milk and considering all the work that goes into it, I am more than pleased to get it at that price. I was raised on a farm, so I know 1st hand how hard the farmers are working to supply. If I had found milk at $2 per gal, then I'd be asking myself why so cheap. Are these farmers really working and feeding the animals for free? Are the cleaning and safety issues being addressed? Is there any testing being done for the public's and animal's safety?lots of things to consider there.Terri junipernabby wrote: Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only pay$2 a gallon...i live in

Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15 a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal?? anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount. peace & blessings,Jen > > Hi All, > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an

excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-) > Happy New Year! >

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It's not rape if it's consensual and between adults.

> Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells

> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

> anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

> peace & blessings,Jen

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

> do a

> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

> milk to

> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

> the

> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

> amazing

> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

> customers

> > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

> first

> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

> on

> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

> in

> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

> until

> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> > Happy New Year!

> >

>

>

>

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While I was picking up my milk today I told my farmer's wife they

should reconsider their pricing -- that the lowest I was seeing

anywhere else was $28/month. She said she'd had another customer

tell her that, too, and that she was amazed that any customer would

volunteer to pay more. I told her I wanted her to stay in business

and if the price she was charging was threatening that, I'd be

thrilled to pay more.

> I pay just under $7 for a gal raw milk and considering all the work

> that goes into it, I am more than pleased to get it at that price.

> I was raised on a farm, so I know 1st hand how hard the farmers are

> working to supply.

>

> If I had found milk at $2 per gal, then I'd be asking myself why so

> cheap. Are these farmers really working and feeding the animals

> for free? Are the cleaning and safety issues being addressed? Is

> there any testing being done for the public's and animal's safety?

>

> lots of things to consider there.

>

> Terri

>

>

>

> junipernabby wrote:

>>

>> Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells

>> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

>> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

>> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

>> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

>> anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

>> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

>> peace & blessings,Jen

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Hi All,

>> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

>> do a

>> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

>> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

>> milk to

>> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

>> the

>> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

>> amazing

>> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

>> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

>> customers

>> > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

>> first

>> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

>> on

>> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

>> in

>> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

>> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

>> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

>> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

>> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

>> until

>> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

>> > Happy New Year!

>> >

>>

>

>

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While I was picking up my milk today I told my farmer's wife they

should reconsider their pricing -- that the lowest I was seeing

anywhere else was $28/month. She said she'd had another customer

tell her that, too, and that she was amazed that any customer would

volunteer to pay more. I told her I wanted her to stay in business

and if the price she was charging was threatening that, I'd be

thrilled to pay more.

> I pay just under $7 for a gal raw milk and considering all the work

> that goes into it, I am more than pleased to get it at that price.

> I was raised on a farm, so I know 1st hand how hard the farmers are

> working to supply.

>

> If I had found milk at $2 per gal, then I'd be asking myself why so

> cheap. Are these farmers really working and feeding the animals

> for free? Are the cleaning and safety issues being addressed? Is

> there any testing being done for the public's and animal's safety?

>

> lots of things to consider there.

>

> Terri

>

>

>

> junipernabby wrote:

>>

>> Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells

>> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

>> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

>> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

>> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

>> anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

>> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

>> peace & blessings,Jen

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Hi All,

>> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

>> do a

>> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

>> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

>> milk to

>> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

>> the

>> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

>> amazing

>> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

>> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

>> customers

>> > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

>> first

>> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

>> on

>> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

>> in

>> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

>> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

>> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

>> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

>> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

>> until

>> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

>> > Happy New Year!

>> >

>>

>

>

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lol :)Val wrote: It's not rape if it's consensual and between adults.> Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??>

anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.> peace & blessings,Jen>> > >> > Hi All,> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to> do a> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough> milk to> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and> the> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is> amazing> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original> customers> > that the milk of the day

goes to first and then it's first come,> first> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not> on> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll> in> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait> until> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> > Happy New Year!> >>>>

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Afraid that I have

to take personal offense  at that comment about rape.

Being the one who

has to handle the animals 365 days a year, get out in ice and sleet and 100

degree weather, and provide a healthful, basic staff of life product I think

that any farmer that can feel justified with his price for his labors should

not be compared to a rapist.

When people happily

pay $10-15 a gallon for water in little plastic jugs, spend $7-10 for a movie

where actors are paid millions for their work, and $7 a tub for lipstick,

making even a squeak about what a farmer charges for milk is totally offensive.

If you are getting your milk for $2 a gal, realize that it is a blessing. The

farmer is selling you retail for a wholesale price, a price which new farmers

cannot sustain.

Face it, when we

look at the cost of land, insurance, cattle, labor, and infrastructure, and

gee, even gas,  a new farmer, one who has not inherited the land and or farm is

simply not going to be able to start up at that price. You are paying 25 cents

a pound for your milk. Less than you would pay for flour.  Shoot, at $2 a gal

maybe it would behoove me to shut down and just buy it from that farmer. $2 a

gal is less than ½ what “store milk” runs.

I am not out to try

and get rich on providing milk, but to be honest, I could be providing a much

better income by going out and getting a job. What I get for my efforts,

though, is a great deal of intangible satisfaction, much of which is simply in

creating an environment for my children and community.

How much would

someone have to pay you to go out  when it is 40 degrees and raining and spend

a couple hours milking? That is more of a true measure of the worth of the

milk. We just had a doctor visit where the office visit was $172, no tests, for

½ hour. Is that rape? What about the costs for shampoo?  I guess I am just real

prickly now, but I see so many people not think twice about buying what I can

neither afford nor feel is a need, then complain about the costs of good food.

www.Majesty Farm.com

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thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the

only thing that ever has. "

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> Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells

> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only

> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15

> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even

> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??

> anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really

> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.

> peace & blessings,Jen

>

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Gordon, Well, I'm not a socialist nor a stalinist... so really I don't care how much you sell your milk for... you could sell it for $1 million a litre if you wanted, it's really your business... All I said that it was insane for my budget. There is no way I could afford raw milk at that price. I'd have to buy my own cow and milk it in the driveway :) - I have milk cows before by hand AND mecanically so I know the work involved. And btw I'm Canadian living in the States so I know what you mean by the nice and friendly Border Patrol officer!!! Marie"Gordon S. " wrote: no, it's not "insane" ... in practice, it's exactly the opposite = by exercising our right to use and enjoy our property, we are restoring sanity to the marketplace after the damage done by the Stalinist food supply system we've suffered under for the last generation. Anyone who wants to can drive across the border to Washington State and buy wonderful REAL MILK there, for about $6.50 per gallon. And lots do. Perfectly legal to bring it back to Canada as groceries, ie. personal property. Make sure you've got half a day to spare in the line-ups, and get psychologically prepared for a border guard to ask you to drop your pants while they do a 'cavity search'. on

your way to get cheap milk I should qualify that price by noting that our shareholders get their milk driven from the farm to depots in the city. So a significant part of that price is transportation. When truckdrivers work for nothing, you can have free delivery When I joined this forum about four years ago (?) discussion of 'price' got so hot that it was banned for a while. you'll notice that the lady who was adamant that raw milk be as cheap as possible is no longer supplying it. Just as I predicted. She stole from herself by giving it away for less than the cost of production. She did it as a labor of love, and

advocated that everyone else ought to, too. I come from the opposite end of the spectrum ... if REAL MILK is what we say it is, then Let's make the good stuff available to the masses.

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What does everyone seem to think is a fair price?

Through our cow share programs we will deliver mostly

part way at $6.00 per gallon one group I drive one

hour the other I will be driving 1 1/2 hours every two

weeks. We have a some that pick up at the house. Were

not trying to get rich, ( i still have a reg job) but

we want to offer a wonderful affordable product, and a

lifestyle for our children. And fresh milk for them

also. I cant see paying $16.00 per gallon either. I

rather make the payments on the cow. Hope it continues

to grow and by the way the extra light is helping with

the chickens! We have gone from 4-5 eggs per day to

20-24 eggs per day since I last posted about it. So it

is really working. I have them up to 15 hours of light

and were starting to get pullet eggs now also. Going

to keep adding light till were up to 17 hours. Thanks

for all your help. What is everyone paying for eggs???

--- Marie Eye wrote:

> Gordon,

>

> Well, I'm not a socialist nor a stalinist... so

> really I don't care how much you sell your milk

> for... you could sell it for $1 million a litre if

> you wanted, it's really your business... All I said

> that it was insane for my budget. There is no way I

> could afford raw milk at that price. I'd have to buy

> my own cow and milk it in the driveway :) - I have

> milk cows before by hand AND mecanically so I know

> the work involved. And btw I'm Canadian living in

> the States so I know what you mean by the nice and

> friendly Border Patrol officer!!!

>

> Marie

>

> " Gordon S. " wrote:

> no, it's not " insane " ... in practice,

> it's exactly the opposite = by exercising our right

> to use and enjoy our property, we are restoring

> sanity to the marketplace after the damage done by

> the Stalinist food supply system we've suffered

> under for the last generation.

> Anyone who wants to can drive across the border to

> Washington State and buy wonderful REAL MILK there,

> for about $6.50 per gallon. And lots do. Perfectly

> legal to bring it back to Canada as groceries, ie.

> personal property. Make sure you've got half a day

> to spare in the line-ups, and get psychologically

> prepared for a border guard to ask you to drop your

> pants while they do a 'cavity search'. on your way

> to get cheap milk

> I should qualify that price by noting that our

> shareholders get their milk driven from the farm to

> depots in the city. So a significant part of that

> price is transportation. When truckdrivers work for

> nothing, you can have free delivery

> When I joined this forum about four years ago (?)

> discussion of 'price' got so hot that it was banned

> for a while. you'll notice that the lady who was

> adamant that raw milk be as cheap as possible is no

> longer supplying it. Just as I predicted.

>

> She stole from herself by giving it away for less

> than the cost of production. She did it as a labor

> of love, and advocated that everyone else ought to,

> too. I come from the opposite end of the spectrum

> ... if REAL MILK is what we say it is, then Let's

> make the good stuff available to the masses. This

> forum is a very important part of that happening ...

> the basic concept of dairying is being stood on its

> head. Dis-inter-mediation = 'small is beautiful '

> = is happening as we speak.

> The other stuff = " homo milk " is going to be

> outlawed after it's exposed as the danger to Public

> Health. The dairy cartel is a good example of how

> the present model of American industry is broke and

> UN fixable. Prepare for some very rough financial

> weather in 2008.

> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

>

> >

> > $15 a gallon?!!?!??!!! that's insane!!! I wouldn't

> be able to afford raw milk at that price either!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I pay $3.75 for organic free range jumbo, plus i get to see the little Chickies too, so that is worth more. The price drops by a quarter with each drop in egg size too.

Re: Re: dairy farm in PA can't keep up with demand!

What does everyone seem to think is a fair price?Through our cow share programs we will deliver mostlypart way at $6.00 per gallon one group I drive onehour the other I will be driving 1 1/2 hours every twoweeks. We have a some that pick up at the house. Werenot trying to get rich, ( i still have a reg job) butwe want to offer a wonderful affordable product, and alifestyle for our children. And fresh milk for themalso. I cant see paying $16.00 per gallon either. Irather make the payments on the cow. Hope it continuesto grow and by the way the extra light is helping withthe chickens! We have gone from 4-5 eggs per day to20-24 eggs per day since I last posted about it. So itis really working. I have them up to 15 hours of lightand were starting to get pullet eggs now also. Goingto keep adding light till were up to 17 hours. Thanksfor all your help. What is everyone paying for eggs???--- Marie Eye <marieeb123> wrote:> Gordon, > > Well, I'm not a socialist nor a stalinist... so> really I don't care how much you sell your milk> for... you could sell it for $1 million a litre if> you wanted, it's really your business... All I said> that it was insane for my budget. There is no way I> could afford raw milk at that price. I'd have to buy> my own cow and milk it in the driveway :) - I have> milk cows before by hand AND mecanically so I know> the work involved. And btw I'm Canadian living in> the States so I know what you mean by the nice and> friendly Border Patrol officer!!!> > Marie> > "Gordon S. " <fitzwaltercanada> wrote:> no, it's not "insane" ... in practice,> it's exactly the opposite = by exercising our right> to use and enjoy our property, we are restoring> sanity to the marketplace after the damage done by> the Stalinist food supply system we've suffered> under for the last generation. > Anyone who wants to can drive across the border to> Washington State and buy wonderful REAL MILK there,> for about $6.50 per gallon. And lots do. Perfectly> legal to bring it back to Canada as groceries, ie.> personal property. Make sure you've got half a day> to spare in the line-ups, and get psychologically > prepared for a border guard to ask you to drop your> pants while they do a 'cavity search'. on your way> to get cheap milk> I should qualify that price by noting that our> shareholders get their milk driven from the farm to> depots in the city. So a significant part of that> price is transportation. When truckdrivers work for> nothing, you can have free delivery> When I joined this forum about four years ago (?)> discussion of 'price' got so hot that it was banned> for a while. you'll notice that the lady who was> adamant that raw milk be as cheap as possible is no> longer supplying it. Just as I predicted. > > She stole from herself by giving it away for less> than the cost of production. She did it as a labor> of love, and advocated that everyone else ought to,> too. I come from the opposite end of the spectrum > ... if REAL MILK is what we say it is, then Let's> make the good stuff available to the masses. This> forum is a very important part of that happening ...> the basic concept of dairying is being stood on its> head. Dis-inter-mediation = 'small is beautiful '> = is happening as we speak. > The other stuff = "homo milk" is going to be> outlawed after it's exposed as the danger to Public> Health. The dairy cartel is a good example of how> the present model of American industry is broke and> UN fixable. Prepare for some very rough financial> weather in 2008. > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||> > >> > $15 a gallon?!!?!??!!! that's insane!!! I wouldn't> be able to afford raw milk at that price either!> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> fast with Yahoo! Search.__________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Teehee...Perhaps a New Years gift ;-)  j/k  Best of luck - I hope you can find a good arrangement so that you can get lots of delicious milk!SummerThanks Summer,I actually emailed my farmer yesterday and asked if he'd be willing to set something up with me for once or twice a month. That way I'm not taking milk weekly and he will have a guarantee that I'm coming. See, I also come monthly to fill 5, 5/gal jugs of water for our consumption from the farm, as well as other items he sells, so I'm hoping we can work something out. You're right, I guess I need to pour on the syrup;-)! Summer wrote:>> My two cents on this:>>> It's hard to find good, clean raw milk. Those who really understand > the value of fresh milk will go great lengths to get it. And to stick > with it. This makes it hard for newcomers, as the average micro-dairy > fills up fast, and then when it's full, it's full. And you wouldn't > want it to be any other way. Expansion isn't the cure for lack of > milk -- more micro farms in your community is!!! You want to preserve > /quality /above /quantity/. Farmers need to grow at a pace that they > feel completely comfortable with.>> But it stinks when you can't get your hands on raw milk, knowing > they're RIGHT THERE.>> In our neck of the woods, there are two other goat dairies, both with > half a dozen or less goats each. They were full before they opened > their doors, I'm certain. We also hardly ever have an excess and have > a significant waiting list. We need more small dairymen & women!>> My guess is this farmer is incredibly passionate about raw milk, and > farming in general! I'm certain that she WANTS to be able to fill > your need. I DREAD saying "no" more than anything! I know that it's > not something easy to be found elsewhere!>> Considering all of the chores of a farmer (midnight bottling, > kidding/calving, mastitis, feedings, fixing fences, kicked buckets... > yada yada), there also must be some sanity for the farmer. >> We have been in transition of becoming more like a CSA farm. This > means that most of our products are available for pre-order at a 15% > savings. It's the same with the dairy. This encourages people to be > committed long-term (less marketing on farmers part, and more > milk-flow/sale security), and also gives a sense of pride and > ownership to the CSAer - thus creating a more community-minded > knowledgeable bunch. We host regular get-togethers (workshops, > potlucks, etc) here at the farm so that they can be in tune with the > dairy, gardens, pastures, etc... It instills more of a /reason/ to do > what they/we do!>> We have found that this leaves less paperwork, less "holding" milk for > people (I'm always scared I forgot someone - and it's happened! - and > then we'll run short), less stress, etc. If someone wants milk as a > one-time thing, say, for cheesemaking, I'll try to accommodate them. > However, if they're hit-and-miss, unless they want to become a weekly > regular, I just can't swing it for long. Usually these folks can go > in on committing to a CSA with someone else, tho', and take turns > picking up milk -- and then everyone can have it all! >> This really doesn't solve your problems, tho'. If your supplier is > short of milk, sadly, there isn't much you or they can do! It really > stinks. Again, I reeeeally hate saying no to people, and so this time > of year leaves me heartbroken for them! >> Past CSA'ers get first dibs on milk again when the girls freshen. > Anyone who doesn't join in when milk is available, loses their spot. > So we go down the list and add folks that have been waiting. For > those who wait when there is little milk (if I know we may not be able > to commit to THEM on a weekly basis), I do hook them up as I can (like > if we have extra milk one week, etc). >> Again, not sure this helps at all. Sorry!!!! We need to get more > quality dairies in your neck of the woods!>> Ooooo, my advice to you: be super nice to your farmer. It will go a > long way!!!>> Summer>>

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Here, here!  Nicely put!SummerAfraid that I have to take personal offense  at that comment about rape. Being the one who has to handle the animals 365 days a year, get out in ice and sleet and 100 degree weather, and provide a healthful, basic staff of life product I think that any farmer that can feel justified with his price for his labors should not be compared to a rapist. When people happily pay $10-15 a gallon for water in little plastic jugs, spend $7-10 for a movie where actors are paid millions for their work, and $7 a tub for lipstick, making even a squeak about what a farmer charges for milk is totally offensive. If you are getting your milk for $2 a gal, realize that it is a blessing. The farmer is selling you retail for a wholesale price, a price which new farmers cannot sustain. Face it, when we look at the cost of land, insurance, cattle, labor, and infrastructure, and gee, even gas,  a new farmer, one who has not inherited the land and or farm is simply not going to be able to start up at that price. You are paying 25 cents a pound for your milk. Less than you would pay for flour.  Shoot, at $2 a gal maybe it would behoove me to shut down and just buy it from that farmer. $2 a gal is less than ½ what “store milk” runs. I am not out to try and get rich on providing milk, but to be honest, I could be providing a much better income by going out and getting a job. What I get for my efforts, though, is a great deal of intangible satisfaction, much of which is simply in creating an environment for my children and community. How much would someone have to pay you to go out  when it is 40 degrees and raining and spend a couple hours milking? That is more of a true measure of the worth of the milk. We just had a doctor visit where the office visit was $172, no tests, for ½ hour. Is that rape? What about the costs for shampoo?  I guess I am just real prickly now, but I see so many people not think twice about buying what I can neither afford nor feel is a need, then complain about the costs of good food.    www.Majesty Farm.com"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."-Margaret Mead  > Hi everyone! after reading all these posts on how much raw milk sells> for,boy oh boy am i glad i found the organic farm i have...i only> pay$2 a gallon...i live in Pa and found my source in sherman,Ny...$15> a gal.???? ...i am sorry but $15 for milk? thats just plain rape!even> gas is only$3 a gal...how do people justify charging $15 a gal??> anyone needing a source for$2 a gal PLEASE let me know..i really> feel bad for anyone paying that outrageous amount.> peace & blessings,Jen>

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You have. You just didn't realize. People buy little bottles of water for $1.50 to $3.00, multiply and you'll see how much it makes a gallon. You will be amazed :)junipernabby wrote: Hi All,Iam very interested as to why people are paying $10-$15 for a gallon of water?never heard of such a thing?blessings<Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some

feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers.

What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!>

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You have. You just didn't realize. People buy little bottles of water for $1.50 to $3.00, multiply and you'll see how much it makes a gallon. You will be amazed :)junipernabby wrote: Hi All,Iam very interested as to why people are paying $10-$15 for a gallon of water?never heard of such a thing?blessings<Jen>> Hi All,> Just wanted to get some

feedback on this. I suppose I just need to do a > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough milk to > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and the > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is amazing > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So, > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original customers > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come, first > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not on > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll in > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-) > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers.

What do you all > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait until > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)> Happy New Year!>

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Jen, food was =more= expensive when you were younger, not cheaper.

In 1950, the average American was paying over 20% of his disposable

income for food. In 1960, 17%. In 1980 your parents were paying

13%. In 2006, Americans paid 9.9% of our disposable income for

food. For people who eat all their meals at home, it's considerably

lower. I'm very sorry you're losing your house and that your family

is in worse shape than you were five years ago, but it's not because

of relative food prices.

Here's the USDA stats on it:

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/CPIFoodAndExpenditures/Data/table7.htm

> Hi All,

> I am sorry if i've offended anyone:( but with prices being so high on

> EVERYTHING now days i feel " raped " daily!not by the little guys like

> all ofm you.its the big corperate companies and the greedy gov.! Im

> remember when i was young things were alot different(and cheaper)!(I

> am 38)people(like us)were NOT loosing their houses(LIKE US)because

> they had to choose between getting to work and paying their mortage

> (LIKE US)

> things are soooo inflated!we COULD afford our house when we bought it

> it 5 yrs ago(and i was nursing 2 children,not working)now we cant

> keep our heads above water and soon we will lose our home.So with

> that being said,I do belive the farmers(like you)deserve what you

> make on your milk and whatever else you sell but you would'nt need to

> charge so much if things were'nt so inflated in the first place by

> the greedy ass's in office! Bless you all for sticking with it!It is

> a VERY hard job doing what you all do!:)

> In reguards to the milk question: the milk i get is raw organic milk

> they are a very small company(25-30 cows)they have a contract w/a

> company who comes and takes their milk every other day(along with

> testing it of course)the facilities are VERY clean and they work very

> hard!husband does all the farming himself(w/the occasional help from

> the amish boy down the road)he has no other job! they tell me they

> are happy to have my tax free $20(i get 10 gal at a time and i

> try to throw them some extra $ if i can.

> as far as eggs go,i get them (all organic)for 1.25 a dozen and that

> not on the same farm that i get the milk from,so it is quite a busy

> life trying to keep my children in healthy food,free from the fda

> label.

> blessings to you all!

> and sorry for offending anyone!Jen

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > Just wanted to get some feedback on this. I suppose I just need to

> do a

> > little venting on the subject. My favorite dairy farm, that I

> > originally bought my first real milk from, cannot produce enough

> milk to

> > keep up with the demand. It's a small farm with jersey cows and

> the

> > most delicious milk of any I've tried. The butterfat content is

> amazing

> > and they are fed an excellent diet, which shows in the milk. So,

> > naturally, I want their milk! They have a list of original

> customers

> > that the milk of the day goes to first and then it's first come,

> first

> > serve. I used to have no problem getting 4-5 jugs, since I'm not

> on

> > that list, but now, there is little chance. As I see others stroll

> in

> > the door that are on the coveted list, my skin starts to crawl;-)

> > Personally, since demand is so high, I think the list should be

> > abolished, so it's fair to all of it's customers. What do you all

> > think? In the meantime, I have to drive 2 hours to the other farm

> > (that also has high quality milk, yet is so far away), and wait

> until

> > the real milk bill passes in NJ, sigh;-)

> > Happy New Year!

> >

>

>

>

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Ha 10 degrees and 35 mile an hour winds I could be in a tshirt ! The other morning actual temp was -25 when I was milking without the windchill . Anyone who wants to come and help out on those days can have there milk for FREE .

Ok who has it worse than me ?

Smiles , hugs and warm thoughts of spring.

Patty

Re: dairy farm in PA can't keep up with demand!

How much would someone have to pay you to go out when it is 40 > degrees and raining and spend a couple hours milking?

40*??? That's T-shirt weather!!! And rain? I laugh at the rain! (Sarcastic.. hahahahaha!!) I'm a goat milker in the mountains of NC! 10* and 35mph winds blowing up my butt!! I can only milk one girl at a time and back when I freshened 25 does it would take me 3 hours to milk them... TWICE a day. Until the last doe freshened somebody would inevitably shoot out another two or three kids that I had to stop and take care of halfway through lengthening the process. After a couple of years I got a machine but the power often goes out and milking by hand takes a lot longer. Add to the equation all the other things that have to be done with the animals and you've got one heck of a full day. These things do make a girl cranky! Anybody who sells milk for $2 a gallon is shooting himself in the foot. To those people who are completely clueless as to what it takes to produce that glass of milk you're holding I recommend you show up at your local supplier's house one morning about 4am and help with that day's chores. By the time you get home, say sometime after 9pm (unless it's kidding season which means you're on call 24 hrs), you'll have a whole new perspective on things.

The only cosmetics around here are made by Suave or Carmex!! Long live the farmers!

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