Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi, I don't have any advice on how to further pressure the publisher but I commend you for speaking out. I think even speaking out in your class (if you have online classmates?) and to the teacher can be very influential. Every time you speak out to people you educate them and they, in turn, may educate others. Thanks! > > I'm taking an online abnormal psychology class at a community college. The textbook is > Abnormal Psychology: An Integrated Approach, by H. Barlow and V. Mark Durand. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Maybe you could post the link to contact this person and/or publisher. I think there are a bunch of us, including MEN like myself, who would love to give alittle input to these idiots and see if we could help them se REALITY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 What is the publishing date of the book? I know that ideas about CFS/ME have changed a lot in a short period of time. I think that it isn't so much the publisher's responsibility, but the person in charge of the curriculum for the class you are taking. It is up to them to ensure that the textbooks they use have up to date and accurate information. BTW, I have an older medical book at home that talks about women's health issues and lists hysteria and frigidity as two key problems facing women. It is no doubt that it was a man who authored the book. I bought it because it was funny to me how stupid we all used to be. Too bad some are still that stupid. writerillustrator wrote: I'm taking an online abnormal psychology class at a community college. The textbook is Abnormal Psychology: An Integrated Approach, by H. Barlow and V. Mark Durand. There's a chapter about how psychological and social factors influence health. There's a fairly long item about CFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi, Sorry I had forgotten to mention that--the publishing date is 2005. > > What is the publishing date of the book? I know that ideas about CFS/ME have changed a lot in a short period of time. I think that it isn't so much the publisher's responsibility, but the person in charge of the curriculum for the class you are taking. It is up to them to ensure that the textbooks they use have up to date and accurate information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 OK, I'll do that, but I think you should read it first. I'll scan and post the offending pages in the next few days. (I hope that's legal--does anyone know? It's a few pages. If it's not legal, I'll just give the contact info) > > Maybe you could post the link to contact this person and/or publisher. > I think there are a bunch of us, including MEN like myself, who would > love to give alittle input to these idiots and see if we could help > them se REALITY > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Thanks. Yes, I have classmates. But that's just one class, out of the hundreds or even thousands who may be using this book or others that have the same info. I noticed thata lot of Web sites, even fairly new ones, that have general descriptions of many illnesses, are really bad too, some saying CFS and FMS are mental and/or related to hypochondria. These sites are where students go to learn more. Paying $129.00 for the texbook to be told my own symptoms may be in my head was truly adding insult to injury! Vicky > > Hi, > I don't have any advice on how to further pressure the publisher but > I commend you for speaking out. I think even speaking out in your > class (if you have online classmates?) and to the teacher can be very > influential. Every time you speak out to people you educate them and > they, in turn, may educate others. Thanks! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Oh! I know this one! It's legal to " reprint " the offending textbook article, as long as you cite your source and don't try to claim it as your own. However, by the sounds of it, there would be no risk in anyone here saying that they wrote such nonsense. Vicky Rubin wrote: OK, I'll do that, but I think you should read it first. I'll scan and post the offending pages in the next few days. (I hope that's legal--does anyone know? It's a few pages. If it's not legal, I'll just give the contact info) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hey Vicky, Good for you!! I would email the school and the prof. updated research medically-sponsored studies and material, much of which has been posted on this site very recently, and I would demand that the reference material they use be authored by an MD or medical scientist. I would then tell the school that I expected a refund of my money for the text, at the very least, for the misinformation the are putting forth in the name of education. You have to pick and choose your battles, but I would also report them to the dept. of education at whatever level it is that chooses their texts. And I would make no secret of doing so. I'd ask them who that is, and who their atty is. And at the very least, write a few simple letters (with appropriate cc's). I would definitely call a couple of prominent docs and ask them to give the headmaster of the school a call about it. It may not go anywhere, and it may cause them a big fine. But, hopefully, it will force them to change their behavior in choosing texts. In the meantime, if you do it right away, you may be able to get them to add supplemental reading material for the class, to counteract the damage they have done. writerillustrator wrote: Thanks. Yes, I have classmates. But that's just one class, out of the hundreds or even thousands who may be using this book or others that have the same info. I noticed thata lot of Web sites, even fairly new ones, that have general descriptions of many illnesses, are really bad too, some saying CFS and FMS are mental and/or related to hypochondria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 OK! Here's the info. I didn't see a place to upload files to the site, so I slapped together a little Web site with the textbook info on CFS and the contact info of the publisher. They do actually ASK for feedback, so let's give 'em some! Here's the URL: www.freewebs.com/textbooklies Feel free to share what you're writing! > > Maybe you could post the link to contact this person and/or publisher. > I think there are a bunch of us, including MEN like myself, who would > love to give alittle input to these idiots and see if we could help > them se REALITY > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow! Those are great ideas. Thanks. I don't blame the school or the teacher. I only blame the authors and publisher. But you're right, the school should be a lot more careful about wht they're putting out there. I'm writing letters. For more info see: freewebs.com/texbooklies > > Hey Vicky, > Good for you!! > I would email the school and the prof. updated research medically-sponsored studies and material, much of which has been posted on this site very recently, and I would demand that the reference material they use be authored by an MD or medical scientist. > I would then tell the school that I expected a refund of my money for the text, at the very least, for the misinformation the are putting forth in the name of education. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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