RE: How do you know when you need Armour increase

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What dose of Armour are you on and how long have you been on it? What did your labs look like on the previous dose? What dose was that?Imelda Macias wrote: Other than lab work and doctor telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses. After being on HC for a couple of months I had been feeling "better" and all of a sudden I am fatigued again, have gained a few lbs., etc. Is it possible to "relapse" or need more of something all of a sudden? any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated, Imelda

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Imelda,

I’ve never taken HC, but you are

describing the way I feel when I know I need to have my bloodwork done for a

possible Armour increase. I start to feel more tired than usual, start

having more aches and pain, and the scale goes up a few pounds for no discernable

reason. I also usually notice darker circles under my eyes and my hair

seems more “frizzy” than usual. This is when I know to call

and make an appt. with my doctor. I have always needed an increase when I

have these symptoms. Sometimes it’s been a few months since my last

adjustment and a few times, a year or more. The thyroid levels change

quite a bit, especially with Hashi’s. Some years I’ve needed

more adjustments than others.

Hope this helps,

Katy

Imelda

Macias

wrote:

Other than lab work and doctor telling you,

is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid

med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses.

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I know this is pretty pathetic, but I'm on 30 mg (1/2 grain) of Armour. It's a small amount, but when this doctor (Dr. Grebennikov) started me, he started me on 120 mg. and I had a horrible reaction. Panic attacks, tachycardia, etc. and it was obviously too much for me to start with. Dr. backed me down to 30 and last time I saw him (1st week of March) he said not to increase yet due to the fact that my levels were slowly getting better and my temperatures had increased to a normal range. I'm more than likely going to give him a call and let him know that my temperatures have dropped and I'm feeling really hypo again.Jan wrote: What dose of Armour are you on and how long have you been on it? What did your labs look

like on the previous dose? What dose was that?Imelda Macias wrote: Other than lab work and doctor telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses. After being on HC for a couple of months I had been feeling "better" and all of a sudden I am fatigued again, have gained a few lbs., etc. Is it possible to "relapse" or need more of something all of a sudden? any suggestions or comments would be greatly

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Thanks Katy, it sounds similar to what I'm experiencing, I bet I need an increase, I'm just terrified because I don't do to well with increases.Katy Deschenes wrote: Imelda, I’ve never taken HC, but you are describing the way I feel when I know I need to have my bloodwork done for a possible Armour increase. I start to feel more tired than usual, start having more aches and pain, and the scale goes up a few pounds for no discernable reason. I also usually notice darker circles under my eyes and my hair seems more “frizzy” than usual. This is when I know to call and make an appt. with my doctor. I have always needed an increase when I have these

symptoms. Sometimes it’s been a few months since my last adjustment and a few times, a year or more. The thyroid levels change quite a bit, especially with Hashi’s. Some years I’ve needed more adjustments than others. Hope this helps, Katy Imelda Macias wrote: Other than lab work and doctor telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses.

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It took me about a year to increase to one grain (60

mg) of Armour from 30 mg. I also was increasing

several other hormones and vitamins simultaneously, so

each of those things took time. I'm getting ready to

see Dr. R. in May, as I've now been on a steady dose

of Armour for three months.

I am also beginning to feel a slide backwards, but I

am not Hashimoto's. I think the heat isn't helping.

I hate the dose increases also, but I do enjoy the

thought of feeling better.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

--- Imelda Macias wrote:

> Dr. backed me down to 30 and last time I

> saw him (1st week of March) he said not to increase

> yet due to the fact that my levels were slowly

> getting better and my temperatures had increased to

> a normal range. I'm more than likely going to give

> him a call and let him know that my temperatures

> have dropped and I'm feeling really hypo again.

>

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Other than starting low and increasing slowly, what is he doing for your thyroid hormone intolerance? Are you on hydrocortisone, estrogen, iron? It does sound like you are due for an increase. Imelda Macias wrote: I know this is pretty pathetic, but I'm on 30 mg (1/2 grain) of Armour. It's a small amount, but when this doctor (Dr. Grebennikov) started me, he started me on 120 mg. and I had a horrible reaction. Panic attacks, tachycardia, etc. and it was obviously too much for me to start with. Dr. backed me down to

30 and last time I saw him (1st week of March) he said not to increase yet due to the fact that my levels were slowly getting better and my temperatures had increased to a normal range. I'm more than likely going to give him a call and let him know that my temperatures have dropped and I'm feeling really hypo again.Jan wrote: What dose of Armour are you on and how long have you been on it? What did your labs look like on the previous dose? What dose was that?Imelda Macias wrote: Other than lab work and doctor

telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses. After being on HC for a couple of months I had been feeling "better" and all of a sudden I am fatigued again, have gained a few lbs., etc. Is it possible to "relapse" or need more of something all of a sudden? any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated, Imelda

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Yes, I'm on HC and b12 and ferritin and multi-v with iron.Jan wrote: Other than starting low and increasing slowly, what is he doing for your thyroid hormone intolerance? Are you on hydrocortisone, estrogen, iron? It does sound like you are due for an increase. Imelda Macias wrote: I know this is pretty pathetic, but I'm on 30 mg (1/2 grain) of Armour. It's a small amount, but when this doctor (Dr. Grebennikov) started me, he started

me on 120 mg. and I had a horrible reaction. Panic attacks, tachycardia, etc. and it was obviously too much for me to start with. Dr. backed me down to 30 and last time I saw him (1st week of March) he said not to increase yet due to the fact that my levels were slowly getting better and my temperatures had increased to a normal range. I'm more than likely going to give him a call and let him know that my temperatures have dropped and I'm feeling really hypo again.Jan wrote: What dose of Armour are you on and how long have you been on it? What did your labs look like on the previous dose? What dose was that?Imelda Macias

wrote: Other than lab work and doctor telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses. After being on HC for a couple of months I had been feeling "better" and all of a sudden I am fatigued again, have gained a few lbs., etc. Is it possible to "relapse" or need more of something all of a sudden? any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated, Imelda Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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Then you may be able to tolerate a small increase. Imelda Macias wrote: Yes, I'm on HC and b12 and ferritin and multi-v with iron.Jan wrote: Other than starting low and increasing slowly, what is he doing for your thyroid hormone intolerance? Are you on hydrocortisone, estrogen, iron? It does sound like you are due for an increase. Imelda Macias

wrote: I know this is pretty pathetic, but I'm on 30 mg (1/2 grain) of Armour. It's a small amount, but when this doctor (Dr. Grebennikov) started me, he started me on 120 mg. and I had a horrible reaction. Panic attacks, tachycardia, etc. and it was obviously too much for me to start with. Dr. backed me down to 30 and last time I saw him (1st week of March) he said not to increase yet due to the fact that my levels were slowly getting better and my temperatures had increased to a normal range. I'm more than likely going to give him a call and let him know that my temperatures have dropped and I'm feeling really hypo again.Jan wrote: What dose of Armour are you on and how long have you been on it? What did your labs look like on the previous dose? What dose was that?Imelda Macias wrote: Other than lab work and doctor telling you, is there a way your body tells you when you need an increase in thyroid med. I wrote a post last week but got no responses. After being on HC for a couple of months I had been feeling "better" and all of a sudden I am fatigued again, have gained a few lbs., etc. Is it

possible to "relapse" or need more of something all of a sudden? any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated, Imelda

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Most people do best with very small

increases.  I’ve even heard of people that increase by ¼ grain every

second day.  That’s how I plan to do when I increase again.  Best of luck

to you.

-Katy

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How do you know when you need Armour increase

Thanks Katy, it sounds similar to what I'm experiencing, I bet I need

an increase, I'm just terrified because I don't do to well with increases.

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For folks who need increases that small, Dr. R prescribes compounded dessicated thyroid in 7.5 mg doses.Katy Deschenes wrote: Most people do best with very small increases. I’ve even heard of people that increase by ¼ grain every second day. That’s how I plan to do when I increase again. Best of luck to you. -Katy From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Imelda MaciasSent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:52 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: How do you know when you need Armour increase Thanks Katy, it sounds similar to what I'm experiencing, I bet I need an increase, I'm just terrified because I don't do to well with increases.

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