Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 I had irritable bladder too. It doesn't bother me as long a I am on the bioequivalent estrogen. A year or so ago, I tried to wean myself off the estrogen. bad idea!!! Bladder problems. Went away immediately when I got back on the estrogen. steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Oh my gosh, is this why I have always had to go pee every twenty minutes my whole life? Or is it just that I consume so much water? Courtenay. --- wrote: --------------------------------- So that explains why a urologist once prescribed an estrogen cream for me. Hmmmmm ... > > The bladder has T3 and estrogen receptors. While I never had a diagnosis of IC, I did have irritable bladder until I got on Armour and bio-identical estrogens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Being hypothyroid leaves you more vulnerable to all kinds of infections. So does diabetes.Marilyn wrote: That is SO freaky! This hypothyroid thing explains so many diverse aliments. What about the fungus under my toenail, is that related, too? MarilynCourtenay wrote: Oh my gosh, is this why I have always had to go peeevery twenty minutes my whole life? Or is it justthat I consume so much water?Courtenay.--- wrote:---------------------------------So that explains why a urologist once prescribed anestrogen cream for me. Hmmmmm ...>> The bladder has T3 and estrogen receptors. While Inever had a diagnosis of IC, I did have irritable bladder until Igot on Armour and bio-identical estrogens. Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yep, approximately the third or fourth thing that happened to me before diagnosis ((1)long heavy periods found to be low progesterone/no progesterone (2)weight loss and anxiety/breakdown when swung into a hyper phase that went on for quite some time) was toenails loosening from nail beds, then dropping off (the great toes, both of them), then the podiatrist permanently removed them. He said it was that oncomyosis or whatever the name of it is, but he also said that, if I always take care of my feet properly, then it was something to do with a change in my immune system. This was during the same yr that I was finally diagnosed with hypothyroidism, as the thyroid had taken a drastic downward spiral, from hyper to flat hypo (fatigue with dry skin and hair, shaking every few hrs; I always say that it probably completely failed in a few days or in a month or so). In other words, because my immune system was being constantly played with by antibodies, unbeknownest to me, my immune system was left wide open to strange infections, even though I took faithful antiseptic and antifungal care of my feet. It caused it to "take hold" easier than in the past, when I was extremely healthy. I ALways cut my toenails straight across, ALways cleaned them faithfully, washed and disinfected my feet and shoes, and didn't trapse around in strange places. Yet thid toenail infection took hold when I was severely HYPOthyroid and caused me to completely lose both of those toenails. It's the wacky immune system defects that take place with autoimmunity. We actually have a very powerful immune system, it's just that it runs all over us because it has gone wacky. I think that with being open to infections, however, the white cells have a lot to do with this, or lack thereof, during certain periods of time of our illnesses. With so many of us, it just can't be coincidental. Re: Re: bladder/T3/estrogen That is SO freaky! This hypothyroid thing explains so many diverse aliments. What about the fungus under my toenail, is that related, too? Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 It is my personal, not medical, opinion that bound thyroid hormone functions as a disinfectant, and that it is a good thing to have a lot of bound hormone in addition to a lot of the free. wrote: Yep, approximately the third or fourth thing that happened to me before diagnosis ((1)long heavy periods found to be low progesterone/no progesterone (2)weight loss and anxiety/breakdown when swung into a hyper phase that went on for quite some time) was toenails loosening from nail beds, then dropping off (the great toes, both of them), then the podiatrist permanently removed them. He said it was that oncomyosis or whatever the name of it is, but he also said that, if I always take care of my feet properly, then it was something to do with a change in my immune system. This was during the same yr that I was finally diagnosed with hypothyroidism, as the thyroid had taken a drastic downward spiral, from hyper to flat hypo (fatigue with dry skin and hair, shaking every few hrs; I always say that it probably completely failed in a few days or in a month or so). In other words, because my immune system was being constantly played with by antibodies, unbeknownest to me, my immune system was left wide open to strange infections, even though I took faithful antiseptic and antifungal care of my feet. It caused it to "take hold" easier than in the past, when I was extremely healthy. I ALways cut my toenails straight across, ALways cleaned them faithfully, washed and disinfected my feet and shoes, and didn't trapse around in strange places. Yet thid toenail infection took hold when I was severely HYPOthyroid and caused me to completely lose both of those toenails. It's the wacky immune system defects that take place with autoimmunity. We actually have a very powerful immune system, it's just that it runs all over us because it has gone wacky. I think that with being open to infections, however, the white cells have a lot to do with this, or lack thereof, during certain periods of time of our illnesses. With so many of us, it just can't be coincidental. Re: Re: bladder/T3/estrogen That is SO freaky! This hypothyroid thing explains so many diverse aliments. What about the fungus under my toenail, is that related, too? Marilyn Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Jan, please explain this further, as far as bound thyroid hormone serving as disinfectant. Disinfectant to the cell receptors or------? This interests me a lot. Re: Re: bladder/T3/estrogen It is my personal, not medical, opinion that bound thyroid hormone functions as a disinfectant, and that it is a good thing to have a lot of bound hormone in addition to a lot of the free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Unused thyroid hormone, bound and unbound is a form of iodine circulating in the blood. It is broken down onto a more basic form of iodine and excreted through the urine. Iodine is a great disinfectant. . . .in the blood and in the urine. I think we need an excess of thyroid hormone to be really healthy. If it were all free hormone, we would not be able to tolerate any excess, because it would get into our cells and make us hyper. But most of us tolerate the bound very readily. But the bound thyroid hormone also suppresses the TSH, and many docs do not tolerate that very well. . . . . wrote: Jan, please explain this further, as far as bound thyroid hormone serving as disinfectant. Disinfectant to the cell receptors or------? This interests me a lot. From: Jan To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Re: bladder/T3/estrogen It is my personal, not medical, opinion that bound thyroid hormone functions as a disinfectant, and that it is a good thing to have a lot of bound hormone in addition to a lot of the free. Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yes, yes yes. I haven't thought of iodine as the disinfectant that it is, even though I used to have to use it myself on various things, as a child. Funny that it was WHEN I had those toenails removed was when I discovered this extreme iodine allergy that I'd never had in my previous life. Betadine was making my feet burn in the foot soaks that the podiatrist had ordered me to take. When I called him, he told me, It's the iodine doing that, stop using it and use something else, can't remember what. Oh yes, something with an acetic acid base. Anyway, this is one of the connectors that I see to Hashimoto's antibodies, and this is why I think they're right when they say that we may have developed an allergy to our own iodine. That seems so overwhelming, considering that it is needed for life, and that it goes everywhere in our bodies. This is the part that I'm still very confused about, the fact of where all those antibodies DO attack it or whatever it is after. Re: Re: bladder/T3/estrogen Unused thyroid hormone, bound and unbound is a form of iodine circulating in the blood. It is broken down onto a more basic form of iodine and excreted through the urine. Iodine is a great disinfectant. . . .in the blood and in the urine. I think we need an excess of thyroid hormone to be really healthy. If it were all free hormone, we would not be able to tolerate any excess, because it would get into our cells and make us hyper. But most of us tolerate the bound very readily. But the bound thyroid hormone also suppresses the TSH, and many docs do not tolerate that very well. . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, I'm sure the water has something to do with it. But when they thought I had interstital cystitis, she gave me the estrogen cream. Honestly, I'd rather have my estrogen tested/prescribed with Dr. R. because I'm not sure a lot of these other doctors know what's going on with the hormones. > > > > The bladder has T3 and estrogen receptors. While I > never had a > diagnosis of IC, I did have irritable bladder until I > got on Armour > and bio-identical estrogens. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Interesting. Thanks, Steph! nw > > I had irritable bladder too. It doesn't bother me as long a I am on the > bioequivalent estrogen. A year or so ago, I tried to wean myself off the > estrogen. bad idea!!! Bladder problems. Went away immediately when I got back on > the estrogen. > steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 My daughter had a bad case of fungus under her big toenails in high school. The doctor said it was from cutting her toenails too short. It's true. nw > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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