RE: F125 pad deice questions

December 2, 2006

Hi Mike,

With the F125 and F165, the output from the BNC connector nearest the USB

port is 5 volts pulsed DC. That is, it goes from 0 volts to +5 volts and

back down to 0. It does not go negative. This output is perfect for EMEM

equipment.

The BNC output nearest the amplitude knob is adjustable from 0 volts to +13

volts. These are the default settings. If you simply tell the unit to make

727 for example, you will get 5 volts pulsed DC at the BNC connector nearest

the USB port. You will get up to 13 volts pulsed DC at the connector

nearest the amplitude knob. You should be able to feel low frequencies at

13 volts.

As was mentioned previously, you can add the command <offset 50> (or

offet -) to give you up to 26 volts AC output (positive and negative) at the

output nearest the amplitude knob. I do not recommend this for most

purposes as the pulsed DC is seems to be much more effective.

There is a possible issue with the amplitude knob. On these units, if you

are looking at them with the numbers and letters right side up, the

amplitude knob will be on the opposite side of the case from you. The

amplitude symbol seems to suggest that you need to turn the top of the knob

to the right to increase the amplitude. You actually have to turn it to the

left. So you may have had it turned all the way down.

I do not have a copy of the program that you used. If the frequencies are

below 10000 Hz, you should be able to feel them. Much above 10000, you will

feel little or nothing.

To view and/or edit the program, load it and then touch the 0/edit key.

Scroll down to see the commands.

Loyd

http://www.royalrife.com

F125 pad deice questions

>I just received my new F125 frequency generator made by AtelierRobin

> in Canada. It was sent by Dave from Vibrant Health who has been

> building a Rife/Bare plasma unit for me for over a month now. He

> sent the F125 ahead so that I could use it as a pad device for my

> wife, who has breast cancer. Dave also loaded the generator with a

> set of some of the CAFL frequency sets, apparently from a CD sent

> with the generator by AtelierRobin.

>

<snip>

> Based on the above observations, I have a few questions.

>

> 1.Why did I not feel any pulsing like I normally do with my other

> pad units at lower frequencies?

> 2.Could the 2nd channel be running a " carrier wave " (like the GB-

> 4000) that would have prevented me from feeling any of the

> frequencies?

> 3.Is there a way that I could access the " instructions " (dwell,

> duty, pulse, etc) that each pre-loaded program has?

> 4.Specifically, how do the two outputs differ and when are they used?

>

> I am anxious to learn what I am doing wrong and would like to

> understand this frequency generator a little better.

>

> Thanks for any help you can give.

> Mike

>

December 3, 2006

Hi Mike,

On a few occassions, I have found some TEN's style contact gel pads to

perform poorly. I can take them brand new, right out of their bag and while

they stick to the skin okay, a very poor signal was sent to the body.

I'm currently trialing some new carbonised rubber electrodes where I use a

gel application. So far these electrodes have been outstanding in getting

the signal into the body. The 2mm connector inserts directly into a hole in

the rubber and the wire in the rubber runs the full length of the electrode.

I have been told I should get 3 years from these electrodes. And they are

nice and cheap too, I am looking at including a set with the Cambrone FDS if

they perform well over time which is currently being trialed.

I've also liked foot basins and hand held electrodes, but this is not

practical in a clinic/office situation, more for home use.

Dr Ian MacLeod says with his sine wave regime, it isn't important to feel

the frequencies, and I can attest to this with his regime on CeFams and

lipomas. This is where he causes a physiological response in the body to

battle microbes and diseased cells as opposed to Rife which targets the

microbes and diseased cells directly. You are going to need a little bit of

" feeling " power to achive this, what some Rife Experts call " Threshold

Levels " . I.E. we need power in the signal to cause a type of resonant

pressure build up in the body to happen to cause devitalization and

distruction. Dr. Bare touched on this issue awhile back.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

FreX - CHIamp - FDS

F125 pad deice questions

>I just received my new F125 frequency generator made by AtelierRobin

> in Canada. It was sent by Dave from Vibrant Health who has been

> building a Rife/Bare plasma unit for me for over a month now. He

> sent the F125 ahead so that I could use it as a pad device for my

> wife, who has breast cancer. Dave also loaded the generator with a

> set of some of the CAFL frequency sets, apparently from a CD sent

> with the generator by AtelierRobin.

>

> When I went to use it as a pad device, I ran into some problems.

> First of all, the F125 has two BNC outputs, one is 5V TTL (whatever

> that is) and the other is amplified 0-13VDC or 26Vpp AC (whatever

> that is). The two outputs are marked on the unit itself with a

> small " square wave " symbol with a single line beside it and a

> larger " square wave " sign with two lines beside it. I assumed that

> the 2nd output (larger square wave symbol) was the one that I should

> use and connected my " BNC to tip plug cable' to it. I was at work

> and decided to simply try one of the programs. I selected the " back

> pain/spasms " program and connected the cable to TENS electrodes

> which I attached to the inside of my ankles.

>

> The first thing that I noticed was the program was running the

> higher frequencies first and proceeding to the lower frequencies.

> My understanding is that a pad device (I have two other types)

> should always run the lower frequencies first as the pulsing

> sensation can be very strong, especially when the lower frequencies

> change.

>

> Anyway, I cranked the power all the up since I was not feeling

> anything and kept my hand near the power control knob should a

> frequency suddenly start pulsing. All the way to the end, some 69

> minutes later, I felt nothing.

>

> I also noticed that the frequencies did not exactly match those in

> the CAFL even though the programs were supposedly from the CAFL.

> While, I am aware that some of the frequencies were being swept,

> they were at least close to the targeted frequencies. Some others

> were not even close.

>

> Based on the above observations, I have a few questions.

>

> 1.Why did I not feel any pulsing like I normally do with my other

> pad units at lower frequencies?

> 2.Could the 2nd channel be running a " carrier wave " (like the GB-

> 4000) that would have prevented me from feeling any of the

> frequencies?

> 3.Is there a way that I could access the " instructions " (dwell,

> duty, pulse, etc) that each pre-loaded program has?

> 4.Specifically, how do the two outputs differ and when are they used?

>

> I am anxious to learn what I am doing wrong and would like to

> understand this frequency generator a little better.

>

> Thanks for any help you can give.

> Mike

>

December 3, 2006

Ken,

Can you give a link or contact where you get the carbonized rubber electrodes?

Thanks,

ge

Ken Uzzell wrote:

I'm currently trialing some new carbonised rubber electrodes where I use a

gel application. So far these electrodes have been outstanding in getting

the signal into the body. The 2mm connector inserts directly into a hole in

the rubber and the wire in the rubber runs the full length of the electrode.

I have been told I should get 3 years from these electrodes. And they are

nice and cheap too, I am looking at including a set with the Cambrone FDS if

they perform well over time which is currently being trialed.

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December 3, 2006

Hi Ken

Where do get the carbonised rubber electrodes from as they sound

excellent.

Regards, Mike Fellows

>

> Hi Mike,

>

> On a few occassions, I have found some TEN's style contact gel pads

to

> perform poorly. I can take them brand new, right out of their bag

and while

> they stick to the skin okay, a very poor signal was sent to the

body.

>

> I'm currently trialing some new carbonised rubber electrodes where

I use a

> gel application. So far these electrodes have been outstanding in

getting

> the signal into the body. The 2mm connector inserts directly into a

hole in

> the rubber and the wire in the rubber runs the full length of the

electrode.

> I have been told I should get 3 years from these electrodes. And

they are

> nice and cheap too, I am looking at including a set with the

Cambrone FDS if

> they perform well over time which is currently being trialed.

>

> I've also liked foot basins and hand held electrodes, but this is

not

> practical in a clinic/office situation, more for home use.

>

> Dr Ian MacLeod says with his sine wave regime, it isn't important

to feel

> the frequencies, and I can attest to this with his regime on CeFams

and

> lipomas. This is where he causes a physiological response in the

body to

> battle microbes and diseased cells as opposed to Rife which targets

the

> microbes and diseased cells directly. You are going to need a

little bit of

> " feeling " power to achive this, what some Rife Experts

call " Threshold

> Levels " . I.E. we need power in the signal to cause a type of

resonant

> pressure build up in the body to happen to cause devitalization and

> distruction. Dr. Bare touched on this issue awhile back.

>

> Regards,

> Ken Uzzell

> http://heal-me.com.au

> FreX - CHIamp - FDS

>

> F125 pad deice questions

>

> >I just received my new F125 frequency generator made by

AtelierRobin

> > in Canada. It was sent by Dave from Vibrant Health who has been

> > building a Rife/Bare plasma unit for me for over a month now. He

> > sent the F125 ahead so that I could use it as a pad device for my

> > wife, who has breast cancer. Dave also loaded the generator with a

> > set of some of the CAFL frequency sets, apparently from a CD sent

> > with the generator by AtelierRobin.

> >

> > When I went to use it as a pad device, I ran into some problems.

> > First of all, the F125 has two BNC outputs, one is 5V TTL

(whatever

> > that is) and the other is amplified 0-13VDC or 26Vpp AC (whatever

> > that is). The two outputs are marked on the unit itself with a

> > small " square wave " symbol with a single line beside it and a

> > larger " square wave " sign with two lines beside it. I assumed

that

> > the 2nd output (larger square wave symbol) was the one that I

should

> > use and connected my " BNC to tip plug cable' to it. I was at work

> > and decided to simply try one of the programs. I selected

the " back

> > pain/spasms " program and connected the cable to TENS electrodes

> > which I attached to the inside of my ankles.

> >

> > The first thing that I noticed was the program was running the

> > higher frequencies first and proceeding to the lower frequencies.

> > My understanding is that a pad device (I have two other types)

> > should always run the lower frequencies first as the pulsing

> > sensation can be very strong, especially when the lower

frequencies

> > change.

> >

> > Anyway, I cranked the power all the up since I was not feeling

> > anything and kept my hand near the power control knob should a

> > frequency suddenly start pulsing. All the way to the end, some 69

> > minutes later, I felt nothing.

> >

> > I also noticed that the frequencies did not exactly match those in

> > the CAFL even though the programs were supposedly from the CAFL.

> > While, I am aware that some of the frequencies were being swept,

> > they were at least close to the targeted frequencies. Some others

> > were not even close.

> >

> > Based on the above observations, I have a few questions.

> >

> > 1.Why did I not feel any pulsing like I normally do with my other

> > pad units at lower frequencies?

> > 2.Could the 2nd channel be running a " carrier wave " (like the GB-

> > 4000) that would have prevented me from feeling any of the

> > frequencies?

> > 3.Is there a way that I could access the " instructions " (dwell,

> > duty, pulse, etc) that each pre-loaded program has?

> > 4.Specifically, how do the two outputs differ and when are they

used?

> >

> > I am anxious to learn what I am doing wrong and would like to

> > understand this frequency generator a little better.

> >

> > Thanks for any help you can give.

> > Mike

> >

>

December 4, 2006

Be careful about long term use of tens pads, I had to use then for 3 or 4

months for a back injury and am now allergic to surgical tape

Terry

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From: Rife [mailto:Rife ] On Behalf Of Ken

Uzzell

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:43 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: F125 pad deice questions