Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I am not surprised with the results of the study. My problem is that just the one silly study cost us, what was it, 419 million? That is just one study. How much are we spending annually on studied that we don't even know about. Did we vote on this? Lee cancer war My, my, Oncologists and the general Medical community have always trumpeted to the media that we are winning the war on cancer. Now it comes out in the last few days that 2003 (the latest year of tabulated cancer deaths) was the first year that a 70 year trend of increasing cancer deaths have actually declined by a miniscule 369 deaths. Is this anything like how we are also " winning " the Iraq war despite increasing losses? The powers-that-be sure have a warped sense of the definition of winning! Secondly, it was declared this week the miserable unwanted results of a fat free diet in women not affecting cancer or heart deaths in that tested group. Duhhhhhhhhhh, if cancer and heart disease is largely pathogen based as we in this community suspect, why should a low fat diet really be that important? doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 If you are surprised at the cost of it, please remember when the system spent another load of our tax dollars to study the effect of bovine flatulence on the environment. It is after all YOUR tax money, so it's not like THEY have to care that much. As a Rifer and a terminal cancer patient though I'd like to ask another question which might really be of interest to people on this forum: what is the life expectancy of people on chemo vs. those using " alternative medicine " (Rife for example) after ten years of being diagnosed with cancer? Somehow I do not see any of these much distinguished scientists approach this kind of an item any time soon... Luigi cancer war > > > My, my, > > > > Oncologists and the general Medical community have always trumpeted > to the media that we are winning the war on cancer. Now it comes out in > the last few days that 2003 (the latest year of tabulated cancer deaths) > was the first year that a 70 year trend of increasing cancer deaths have > actually declined by a miniscule 369 deaths. Is this anything like how we > are also " winning " the Iraq war despite increasing losses? The > powers-that-be sure have a warped sense of the definition of winning! > > > > Secondly, it was declared this week the miserable unwanted results of > a fat free diet in women not affecting cancer or heart deaths in that > tested group. Duhhhhhhhhhh, if cancer and heart disease is largely > pathogen based as we in this community suspect, why should a low fat diet > really be that important? > > > > > > > > doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I highly suspect the findings of this report that cancer deaths have gone down, I am running into more and more people who are affected by cancer everyday, I noticed on my wife's death certificate that cause of death was lung failure, then below it listed metastatic lung cancer, if one only looks at the 1st cause of death cancer will probably be rarely listed there, to me cancer probably rarely is the number 1 cause of death but a contributing factor, so if this report only looked at the initial cause of death it is just another game playing with statistics. Another reason I see are more and more people are not seeking treatment from doctors preferring ignorance to knowing the facts and dieing on their own without a doctors help. Terry cancer war My, my, Oncologists and the general Medical community have always trumpeted to the media that we are winning the war on cancer. Now it comes out in the last few days that 2003 (the latest year of tabulated cancer deaths) was the first year that a 70 year trend of increasing cancer deaths have actually declined by a miniscule 369 deaths. Is this anything like how we are also " winning " the Iraq war despite increasing losses? The powers-that-be sure have a warped sense of the definition of winning! Secondly, it was declared this week the miserable unwanted results of a fat free diet in women not affecting cancer or heart deaths in that tested group. Duhhhhhhhhhh, if cancer and heart disease is largely pathogen based as we in this community suspect, why should a low fat diet really be that important? doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 No one needs to die from cancer. The cures have been around for 80+ years. I have more than 40 in my nutritional files that I use. They are mostly inexpensive and some are free: Rife MWO Silver Pulser Zapper Essiac Winters Tea Km and other herbals Aloe Vera Juice Veg. Juicing (with Ginger root)See:Dr.Gerson Dinshaw's Color therapy Magnets-Amer. Indians used loadstone and cured cancer in 3 days Hanna Kroeger protocols Cancell/Cantron Poly MVA-Has funding available Clean the body/ie Detox it/Alkalize it. We are too acidic. The list goes on and on. The Medical establishment has been suppressing this info or discrediting it or doing a disinformation campaign for years. These are the same morons who are telling us not to get medications from Canada because it is unsafe when 80% of Canadian meds are from the US. Here is Bob Beck's protocol for the Silver Pulser,$90. from sotainstruments.com I don't have the Beck protocols available as I am packing up my house to move. Try: toolsforhealing.com for the Beck Protocol booklet and video. Here is the summary of the Beck protocol: * Bob Beck's follow–up on this research led him to develop a protocol for health: * To make and drink ionic/colloidal silver * Blood electrification with microcurrents of electricity * Magnetic Pulsing for lymph and tissue electrification * To drink freshly ozonated water to help clear toxins * The tools he developed allow each of us to take responsibility for our own health The first two are done with the silver pulser. The third is done with his magnetic pulser. Or there are alternatives here. Learn to lymphasize or work on a mini trampoline, but gently or use a Chi machine. The fourth is done with his ozonator. Or you can ozonate filtered or distilled water by puring it back and forth between two glasses for several minutes. Namaste, > > I highly suspect the findings of this report that cancer deaths have gone > down, I am running into more and more people who are affected by cancer > everyday, I noticed on my wife's death certificate that cause of death was > lung failure, then below it listed metastatic lung cancer, if one only looks > at the 1st cause of death cancer will probably be rarely listed there, to me > cancer probably rarely is the number 1 cause of death but a contributing > factor, so if this report only looked at the initial cause of death it is > just another game playing with statistics. Another reason I see are more and > more people are not seeking treatment from doctors preferring ignorance to > knowing the facts and dieing on their own without a doctors help. > Terry > > cancer war > > My, my, > > > > Oncologists and the general Medical community have always trumpeted to > the media that we are winning the war on cancer. Now it comes out in the > last few days that 2003 (the latest year of tabulated cancer deaths) was the > first year that a 70 year trend of increasing cancer deaths have actually > declined by a miniscule 369 deaths. Is this anything like how we are also > " winning " the Iraq war despite increasing losses? The powers-that-be sure > have a warped sense of the definition of winning! > > > > Secondly, it was declared this week the miserable unwanted results of a > fat free diet in women not affecting cancer or heart deaths in that tested > group. Duhhhhhhhhhh, if cancer and heart disease is largely pathogen based > as we in this community suspect, why should a low fat diet really be that > important? > > > > > > > > doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I should have saved a report I read on Yahoo News some time ago where the NY Times had done a research: 40% of the cancer patients they interviewed admitted using " alternative medicine " (Rife, vitamins and supplements, etcetera) to further help in their fight with the disease. If so many people ADMITTED using chemo AS WELL AS other systems, I wonder how many used these alternate means INSTEAD of chemo. The true death rate ten years after being diagnosed with cancer HAS GOT to be abysmal at best for chemo due to the destructiveness of these substances. I wonder what kind of reaction one would get out of Big Pharma if a comparison were made between the long term effects of chemo and " alternative medicine " . I have the feeling that they'd Rather nuke the country... Luigi cancer war > > My, my, > > > > Oncologists and the general Medical community have always trumpeted to > the media that we are winning the war on cancer. Now it comes out in the > last few days that 2003 (the latest year of tabulated cancer deaths) was > the > first year that a 70 year trend of increasing cancer deaths have actually > declined by a miniscule 369 deaths. Is this anything like how we are also > " winning " the Iraq war despite increasing losses? The powers-that-be sure > have a warped sense of the definition of winning! > > > > Secondly, it was declared this week the miserable unwanted results of a > fat free diet in women not affecting cancer or heart deaths in that tested > group. Duhhhhhhhhhh, if cancer and heart disease is largely pathogen based > as we in this community suspect, why should a low fat diet really be that > important? > > > > > > > > doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 In my wife's case, the bone metastases were present from day one but they neglected to tell us, they also neglected to tell us there has never been an effective lung cancer chemo agent, preferring to collect their $100000.00 worth of chemo that did nothing, after the chemo rounds were finished (6), the bone metastases went crazy, growing like mad, opps, I ferverently believe that if my wife had skipped the chemo and continued on her naturopathic path her ultimate outcome would have probably been the same but the way would have been much easier, and not so soon, the chemo compromised her immune system and IMHO led to the cancer growing like wildfire, although her oncologist insists it wouldn't do that. Terry Re: cancer war I should have saved a report I read on Yahoo News some time ago where the NY Times had done a research: 40% of the cancer patients they interviewed admitted using " alternative medicine " (Rife, vitamins and supplements, etcetera) to further help in their fight with the disease. If so many people ADMITTED using chemo AS WELL AS other systems, I wonder how many used these alternate means INSTEAD of chemo. The true death rate ten years after being diagnosed with cancer HAS GOT to be abysmal at best for chemo due to the destructiveness of these substances. I wonder what kind of reaction one would get out of Big Pharma if a comparison were made between the long term effects of chemo and " alternative medicine " . I have the feeling that they'd Rather nuke the country... Luigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Tomorrow afternoon I get to talk to the radiologist about what results he saw in the bone and body scans I went through Monday. The doctor belongs to a group of " experts " who are very surprised that I was actually able to survive through this past summer. They are sure that I have been up to " no good " -Rife, and assorted other stuff-but can't prove it. Thursday afternoon I go through a second Biofeedback session with a naturopath. Before his first session I was unable to have two puffs out of a cigar without fainting: my hypothalamus gland had been almost shorted out to death by the cancer and by chemo. Now I am able to stay up the whole day-no naps are needed-and I feel as if someone replaced my body with a brand spanking new one. The naturopath has had me continue to take Cantron, chlorophyll and Paw Paw, and insisted that I continue using my EM+ plasma zapper in fact giving me a small group of frequencies to add to those I already use. He has mentioned that if everything goes well I should be considered cancer free or near cancer free by as late as the end of April. Good as I feel something tells me this guy means business. On the other hand I have worked as a Computer Network and Security Specialist for Sloan Kettering, Pfizer, Astra Zeneca and Novartis (for a few years combined in fact) and these guys mean business too, but somehow their idea of business might not have my survival as its first target... Luigi Re: cancer war > > I should have saved a report I read on Yahoo News some time ago where the > NY > Times had done a research: 40% of the cancer patients they interviewed > admitted using " alternative medicine " (Rife, vitamins and supplements, > etcetera) to further help in their fight with the disease. > If so many people ADMITTED using chemo AS WELL AS other systems, I wonder > how many used these alternate means INSTEAD of chemo. > The true death rate ten years after being diagnosed with cancer HAS GOT to > be abysmal at best for chemo due to the destructiveness of these > substances. > I wonder what kind of reaction one would get out of Big Pharma if a > comparison were made between the long term effects of chemo and > " alternative > medicine " . > I have the feeling that they'd Rather nuke the country... > Luigi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I learned a lesson long ago from my aunt that has stayed with me my entire life and that is " NO matter if you live or die the doctor still gets paid! " It made since then and even more now Terry Re: cancer war Tomorrow afternoon I get to talk to the radiologist about what results he saw in the bone and body scans I went through Monday. The doctor belongs to a group of " experts " who are very surprised that I was actually able to survive through this past summer. They are sure that I have been up to " no good " -Rife, and assorted other stuff-but can't prove it. Thursday afternoon I go through a second Biofeedback session with a naturopath. Before his first session I was unable to have two puffs out of a cigar without fainting: my hypothalamus gland had been almost shorted out to death by the cancer and by chemo. Now I am able to stay up the whole day-no naps are needed-and I feel as if someone replaced my body with a brand spanking new one. The naturopath has had me continue to take Cantron, chlorophyll and Paw Paw, and insisted that I continue using my EM+ plasma zapper in fact giving me a small group of frequencies to add to those I already use. He has mentioned that if everything goes well I should be considered cancer free or near cancer free by as late as the end of April. Good as I feel something tells me this guy means business. On the other hand I have worked as a Computer Network and Security Specialist for Sloan Kettering, Pfizer, Astra Zeneca and Novartis (for a few years combined in fact) and these guys mean business too, but somehow their idea of business might not have my survival as its first target... Luigi Re: cancer war > > I should have saved a report I read on Yahoo News some time ago where the > NY > Times had done a research: 40% of the cancer patients they interviewed > admitted using " alternative medicine " (Rife, vitamins and supplements, > etcetera) to further help in their fight with the disease. > If so many people ADMITTED using chemo AS WELL AS other systems, I wonder > how many used these alternate means INSTEAD of chemo. > The true death rate ten years after being diagnosed with cancer HAS GOT to > be abysmal at best for chemo due to the destructiveness of these > substances. > I wonder what kind of reaction one would get out of Big Pharma if a > comparison were made between the long term effects of chemo and > " alternative > medicine " . > I have the feeling that they'd Rather nuke the country... > Luigi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 You have survived for 8 years IN SPITE of the allopaths? WAY TO GO!!! And I bet that if you keep on collecting knowledge you'll easily dispatch the monster and live long enough to see your grandkids finish college. This past Monday I went for a set of bone and body scans that, according to the radiologist I saw yesterday, point out that most of my cancer is GONE and plenty of what he sees left looks suspiciously like scar tissue. Until the end of last month I was told I had been caught too late to qualify for surgery (removing the bladder, the prostate and some surrounding muscle) which is the only " approved cure " for my cancer. I heard from the urologist late yesterday afternoon, and he suggested that surgery might be something to consider now, though I don't think that becoming permanently impotent as well as losing a piece of intestine needed to construct a fake bladder (sorry about the graphic language!) are something to look forward to. I think I'll do as you are doing and let the monster finish to pass away without losing pieces of me, though I still have some issues to deal with: -according to the radiologist my large intestine is packed with undigested food that will need to go as it is the sole cause left for my mild nausea; -there is still some tenderness in the right hip and right shoulder although this too needs to be addressed only as a matter of comfort. When the radiologist suggested for me to find natural, non destructive ways to deal with both of these I almost fainted: here's an allopath that does not push for surgery or heavy medicine! The naturopath originally felt I'd be going back to work by late April. Now I think he might have been too cautious in his assessment. Please keep up the good fight and see that you kill your monster: the doctors who wanted to tear you apart deserve this kind of a lesson in humility. And your drive is a tremendous example for your family. Luigi Re: cancer war > To: Rife > > Tomorrow afternoon I get to talk to the radiologist about what results he > saw in the bone and body scans I went through Monday. > The doctor belongs to a group of " experts " who are very surprised that I > was > > actually able to survive through this past summer. > They are sure that I have been up to " no good " -Rife, and assorted > other stuff-but can't prove it. > Thursday afternoon I go through a second Biofeedback session with a > naturopath. > Before his first session I was unable to have two puffs out of a cigar > without fainting: my hypothalamus gland had been almost shorted out to > death > > by the cancer and by chemo. > Now I am able to stay up the whole day-no naps are needed-and I feel as if > someone replaced my body with a brand spanking new one. > The naturopath has had me continue to take Cantron, chlorophyll and Paw > Paw, > > and insisted that I continue using my EM+ plasma zapper in fact giving me > a > small group of frequencies to add to those I already use. > He has mentioned that if everything goes well I should be considered > cancer > free or near cancer free by as late as the end of April. > Good as I feel something tells me this guy means business. > On the other hand I have worked as a Computer Network and Security > Specialist for Sloan Kettering, Pfizer, Astra Zeneca and Novartis (for a > few > > years combined in fact) and these guys mean business too, but somehow > their > idea of business might not have my survival as its first target... > Luigi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.