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50 grams is almost two full ounces.

that's a whole huge lot of vitamin c.

how long does it take?

Dennis

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Mateosian wrote:

> How frequently were the Vit C IVs administered? daily?

>

> I have a DO in the SF Bay Area who administers 50gram Vit C IV's

> and I feel great afterward. I'm thinking if I have them more often that

> I might achieve better results.

>

If you want to get the best results from IV ascorbate, do it as a

continuous drip around the clock for several days. You could work this

out as one liter bag with 75 grams of sodium ascorbate every twelve

hours. Doing a single bag in a doctor's office doesn't give best

results, because after the drip is finished, the blood levels fall back

down to normal levels. Dr. Klenner said that to get the " antibiotic "

effect, you have to dose it like an antibiotic, i.e., every 2-4 hours

around the clock. You have to give enough quantity and often enough and

for long enough to get the job done.

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I had only good effect from it. But you certainly could be right.

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>

> I would think that doing 50 grams in two hours would be stressful to the

> body, even if it was done through a PortaCath. 50 grams mixed in a 500

> ml bag is already hypertonic, even if they mixed it in plain sterile

> water. Dripping it in at a rate of 250 ml per hour would be hard on the

> vein if it was done in the arm. If it was mixed in 250 ml of water, it

> would be that much more hypertonic and therefore irritating to the vein.

>

> Regards,

>

>

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now we're really off the topic (sorry peter walker)...however, jason...of course

everyone is different, but vitamin C isn't that irritating to the vein. not as

irritating as the chelation (EDTA detoxifier), and certainly way less irritating

than the common post chelation drip called the Meyer's cocktails...which

includes ur complex B vit's, some electrolytes etc...

at any rate, it depends on the drip speed and which vein is accessed, but

usually u can get thru a bag of about 60g's in less than 2 hours. sometimes it

is wise however, to start the patient on 40g's with a slow drip. at worst, it

can cause a bit of nausea in a small amount of people. one needs to monitor

this... but most people can take it with no problem. the usual symptoms during

the therapy is u find urself getting very thirsty. (i wont get into the science

of that).

but u are correct with ur theory about spreading out the infusion, ingestion of

vitamin C over the course of the day...however, most of us work and have lives,

so unless ur at a clinic that offers this, and about 4 weeks to spare, then

thats not happenin.

i do feel obligated, however, to share with anybody interested the side effects

associated with vitamin c infusions. all i can say is heavy detox. but its a

good one. some people are unaffected. others, like me, can develop a fever.

lasts for a few days, then ur in the clear. if u do develop a fever, it usually

means that either 1) u had a lot of crap in ur body and ur organs are fighting

hard to deal with the junk that has been exposed...and 2) there's a bacteria,

parasite, or virus that has been hiding out.

i wouldn't discourage anyone from getting the C infusion. i witnessed it do

wonders for so many people, including myself.

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> I would think that doing 50 grams in two hours would be stressful to

> the body...If it was mixed in 250 ml

> of water, it would be that much more hypertonic and therefore

> irritating to the vein.

>

, don't mix sodium ascorbate with water and give it

intravenously; yes it's dangerous. Dr. Cathcart has a recipe fo

IV vitamin C posted on his website.

http://www.orthomed.com

Doing it right is practically risk-free. Note he mentions

monitoring for hypocalcemia; of course that would be bad.

This Gooooogle search turns it up as the first hit:

intravenous site:www.orthomed.com

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en & q=intravenous+site%3Awww.orthome

d.com & meta=

Duncan Crow

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My wife received Meyer's cocktails before having chemo for lung cancer, we

had more results in 2 weeks 5 infusions than the whole chemo treatment,

after the chemo, I believe the Meyer's cocktails were too busy trying to

clean up the chemo damage to do significant help on the cancer, the thirst

was a big issue and later in the treatments she got a little nausea, which

responded well to Coca-Cola. Another good plus for people who must have

chemo is that my wife had no vomiting from the chemo, the cocktails kept her

going thru the treatments.

Terry

Re: Re: Vitamin C

now we're really off the topic (sorry peter walker)...however, jason...of

course everyone is different, but vitamin C isn't that irritating to the

vein. not as irritating as the chelation (EDTA detoxifier), and certainly

way less irritating than the common post chelation drip called the Meyer's

cocktails...which includes ur complex B vit's, some electrolytes etc...

at any rate, it depends on the drip speed and which vein is accessed, but

usually u can get thru a bag of about 60g's in less than 2 hours. sometimes

it is wise however, to start the patient on 40g's with a slow drip. at

worst, it can cause a bit of nausea in a small amount of people. one needs

to monitor this... but most people can take it with no problem. the usual

symptoms during the therapy is u find urself getting very thirsty. (i wont

get into the science of that).

but u are correct with ur theory about spreading out the infusion, ingestion

of vitamin C over the course of the day...however, most of us work and have

lives, so unless ur at a clinic that offers this, and about 4 weeks to

spare, then thats not happenin.

i do feel obligated, however, to share with anybody interested the side

effects associated with vitamin c infusions. all i can say is heavy detox.

but its a good one. some people are unaffected. others, like me, can

develop a fever. lasts for a few days, then ur in the clear. if u do

develop a fever, it usually means that either 1) u had a lot of crap in ur

body and ur organs are fighting hard to deal with the junk that has been

exposed...and 2) there's a bacteria, parasite, or virus that has been hiding

out.

i wouldn't discourage anyone from getting the C infusion. i witnessed it do

wonders for so many people, including myself.

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My wife had her Meyer's cocktails mixed with I believe 100 ml of sterile

water and 75 to 100 grams of the Vitamin C, we would run the IV full open

most of the time and received the IVs in a little over and hour to 1.5 hours

with no problems and she was having 2 infusions a week, these were thru the

veins in the wrist and hand.

Terry

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I would think that doing 50 grams in two hours would be stressful to the

body, even if it was done through a PortaCath. 50 grams mixed in a 500 ml

bag is already hypertonic, even if they mixed it in plain sterile water.

Dripping it in at a rate of 250 ml per hour would be hard on the vein if it

was done in the arm. If it was mixed in 250 ml of water, it would be that

much more hypertonic and therefore irritating to the vein.

Regards,

Mateosian wrote:

> about two hours.

>

> ...christina

>

>

>

>

>>50 grams is almost two full ounces.

>> that's a whole huge lot of vitamin c.

>> how long does it take?

>> Dennis

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I have had the Meyer's and C separately but his sounds like what my doc

(actually his amazing nurse) does. She can put he needle in the hand or

wherever you are most comfortable with it... I am definitely interested in

doing more of this.

I'm in the SF East Bay, Terry, where are you-all?

....

>

> My wife had her Meyer's cocktails mixed with I believe 100 ml of sterile

> water and 75 to 100 grams of the Vitamin C, we would run the IV full open

> most of the time and received the IVs in a little over and hour to 1.5hours

> with no problems and she was having 2 infusions a week, these were thru

> the

> veins in the wrist and hand.

> Terry

>

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Kansas City area, we went to a naturopath who is shielded in a doctors

office

Terry

Re: Re: Vitamin C

I have had the Meyer's and C separately but his sounds like what my doc

(actually his amazing nurse) does. She can put he needle in the hand or

wherever you are most comfortable with it... I am definitely interested in

doing more of this.

I'm in the SF East Bay, Terry, where are you-all?

....

>

> My wife had her Meyer's cocktails mixed with I believe 100 ml of

> sterile water and 75 to 100 grams of the Vitamin C, we would run the

> IV full open most of the time and received the IVs in a little over

> and hour to 1.5hours with no problems and she was having 2 infusions a

> week, these were thru the veins in the wrist and hand.

> Terry

>

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