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Don:

I cannot tell you how to effectively remove cigarette odors.....but I can tell you what does not work.

I have had quite a few opportunities to remove/mitigate cigarette odors, and odors from tear gas (which is not a gas but a fume) which is similar. I have heat-treated rooms/apartments/homes.....with little effect. I’ve painted and sealed surfaces....with little effect. I’ve scrubbed, and scrubbed, and cleaned surfaces with all sorts of detergents, soaps, and solvents...with little effect. Usually I have found that the best treatment method seems to be removing and discarding what can be removed, i.e., contaminated surfaces, then sealing the _rap out of what surfaces remain and restoring back to a habitable condition. Methods I have not tried is the ozone and/or peroxide devices. Maybe they work, I don’t know. Sure would like to know other’s opinions. I will never forget two specific projects where the smokers had a lit cigarette going at all times (so I was told), sometimes multiple cigarettes. The walls, doors, cabinets, windows, window frames, etc., were coated with a honey brown layer of sticky cigarette-residue. The smoke trails from the ashtrays were amazing! YUCK! Though we could clean off, and scrap off, a majority of the residue, we could not get rid of the odor via cleaning alone. It was tuff stuff to mitigate. It is also one reason why I will NEVER be a smoker!

For what it is worth....

--

Geyer, PE, CIH, CSP

President

KERNTEC Industries, Inc.

Bakersfield, California

www.kerntecindustries.com

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Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors in a house

to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you, or others,

have advice for this situation. I have a client, with severe MCS and

autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the house appears to

have no significant defects with respect to iaq, except for the (very)

mild cigarette smoke odor.

Don Schaezler

ETC Information Services, LLC

Cibolo, Texas

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Group,

I have been refraining from replying to all of you with regard to the

use of ozone for odor removal services, but felt it was necessary to

finally respond. Here goes...You must have the right kind of ozone

generators (UV, not corona discharge)and more than just one or two,

(of course, while occupants and pets are out of the building) to do

the job effectively. We have used up to 20 pieces of equipment

(depending on sq. footage) in order to reach high enough levels of

ozone to do the job effectively and we leave them in place overnight

for smoke removal. The technician re-enters wearing PPE to turn on

the industrial fans already in place, waits about 1/2 hour to 45

min., then uses an ozone meter to determine when it is safe for the

occupants to return (no nitrogens, so it is non corrosive and returns

to oxygen). We have been doing this very successfully for the last 6

years and real estate agents, hotel management and people with

allergies love us! Because we use UV light generated ozone for this

purpose, we are not adding nitrogen oxides to the living space. FYI -

The equipment we use was also used in a study conducted by Aerotech

Laboratories a few years ago where they grew stachy and aspergillus

on drywall sections, they sampled pre and post ozoning (took photos

of each, with a full report) and it was obvious that the molds were

completely oxidized and unable to regenerate. Dr. Rip Rice of the

International Ozone Assoc. has established an Air Treatment Task

Force and upon his review of the Aerotech study, wrote an article for

the IOA newsletter " Ozone News " , Vol. 33, No.3, June, 2005. We are

one of many companies associated with Medallion Healthy Homes (in

Canada and the US)and follow their methodology to achieve the best

results. So, my message to all of you who would like to remove smoke

odors (tobacco or post-fire), it can be done much easier, without

having to remove everything, SAFELY, using non corrosive equipment

and effectively, not to mention faster and cheaper for the customer.

Pam Young, Co-Owner and assistant to

Gerald Young, GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes

1-

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > :

> > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors in a

house

> > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you, or

others,

> > have advice for this situation. I have a client, with severe MCS

and

> > autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the house

appears to

> > have no significant defects with respect to iaq, except for the

(very)

> > mild cigarette smoke odor.

> > Don Schaezler

> > ETC Information Services, LLC

> > Cibolo, Texas

> >

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We also use ozone to get rid of smells in real estate that we mold remediated and the place smells so it won't sell.

Sometimes old people or dogs have accidents and there is a urine smell in these units. You get rid of the urine stained carpet or chair and the place still smells. Sometimes a clothes closet smells funky and we ozonate it. The ozone machine works well getting rid of smells.

On the other hand I have zero confidence and have never seen any convincing evidence that ozone will disintegrate built up mold in a real world environment.

Rosen

Re: Cigarette Smoke Odors

Group,I have been refraining from replying to all of you with regard to the use of ozone for odor removal services, but felt it was necessary to finally respond. Here goes...You must have the right kind of ozone generators (UV, not corona discharge)and more than just one or two, (of course, while occupants and pets are out of the building) to do the job effectively. We have used up to 20 pieces of equipment (depending on sq. footage) in order to reach high enough levels of ozone to do the job effectively and we leave them in place overnight for smoke removal. The technician re-enters wearing PPE to turn on the industrial fans already in place, waits about 1/2 hour to 45 min., then uses an ozone meter to determine when it is safe for the occupants to return (no nitrogens, so it is non corrosive and returns to oxygen). We have been doing this very successfully for the last 6 years and real estate agents, hotel

management and people with allergies love us! Because we use UV light generated ozone for this purpose, we are not adding nitrogen oxides to the living space. FYI -The equipment we use was also used in a study conducted by Aerotech Laboratories a few years ago where they grew stachy and aspergillus on drywall sections, they sampled pre and post ozoning (took photos of each, with a full report) and it was obvious that the molds were completely oxidized and unable to regenerate. Dr. Rip Rice of the International Ozone Assoc. has established an Air Treatment Task Force and upon his review of the Aerotech study, wrote an article for the IOA newsletter "Ozone News", Vol. 33, No.3, June, 2005. We are one of many companies associated with Medallion Healthy Homes (in Canada and the US)and follow their methodology to achieve the best results. So, my message to all of you who would like to remove smoke odors (tobacco or

post-fire), it can be done much easier, without having to remove everything, SAFELY, using non corrosive equipment and effectively, not to mention faster and cheaper for the customer. Pam Young, Co-Owner and assistant toGerald Young, GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes1-> > > > > > > > > > > :> > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors in a house> > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you, or others,> > have advice for this situation. I have a client, with severe MCS and> > autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the house appears to> > have no significant defects with respect to iaq,

except for the (very)> > mild cigarette smoke odor.> > Don Schaezler> > ETC Information Services, LLC> > Cibolo, Texas> >>

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Pam:

You post is great. Much appreciated here. Can you comment on your equipment to reduce the odor associated with tear gas? Have you had the opportunity?

Regards,

--

Geyer, PE, CIH, CSP

President

KERNTEC Industries, Inc.

Bakersfield, California

www.kerntecindustries.com

Group,

I have been refraining from replying to all of you with regard to the

use of ozone for odor removal services, but felt it was necessary to

finally respond. Here goes...You must have the right kind of ozone

generators (UV, not corona discharge)and more than just one or two,

(of course, while occupants and pets are out of the building) to do

the job effectively. We have used up to 20 pieces of equipment

(depending on sq. footage) in order to reach high enough levels of

ozone to do the job effectively and we leave them in place overnight

for smoke removal. The technician re-enters wearing PPE to turn on

the industrial fans already in place, waits about 1/2 hour to 45

min., then uses an ozone meter to determine when it is safe for the

occupants to return (no nitrogens, so it is non corrosive and returns

to oxygen). We have been doing this very successfully for the last 6

years and real estate agents, hotel management and people with

allergies love us! Because we use UV light generated ozone for this

purpose, we are not adding nitrogen oxides to the living space. FYI -

The equipment we use was also used in a study conducted by Aerotech

Laboratories a few years ago where they grew stachy and aspergillus

on drywall sections, they sampled pre and post ozoning (took photos

of each, with a full report) and it was obvious that the molds were

completely oxidized and unable to regenerate. Dr. Rip Rice of the

International Ozone Assoc. has established an Air Treatment Task

Force and upon his review of the Aerotech study, wrote an article for

the IOA newsletter " Ozone News " , Vol. 33, No.3, June, 2005. We are

one of many companies associated with Medallion Healthy Homes (in

Canada and the US)and follow their methodology to achieve the best

results. So, my message to all of you who would like to remove smoke

odors (tobacco or post-fire), it can be done much easier, without

having to remove everything, SAFELY, using non corrosive equipment

and effectively, not to mention faster and cheaper for the customer.

Pam Young, Co-Owner and assistant to

Gerald Young, GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes

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“Mold is a plant”

HUH???!!! 

“Yes Stacey, I do sell the Ozone-Lite along with a number of

other air purifying devices.”

Somehow I am not at all surprised…

-S.C.

From: iequality [mailto:iequality ] On Behalf Of kengib .

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006

12:14 PM

To: iequality

Subject: Re: Re:

Cigarette Smoke Odors

Dear ,

You are absolutely correct in that ozone will eradicate urine odors as

well as most other odors including tobacco, formaldehyde and cooking odors like

curry, garlic etc. However let's not overlook the remarkable results of those

advanced oxygen substances resulting from Pam's photocatalytic oxidizer.

They will not only rid an area of smells but germs as well. The so-called

Ozone-Lite [which produces no ozone] is a simple light bulb that can

saturate a room with enough safe oxidizers to eliminate all smells but also

greatly reduce the population of bacteria and viruses.

You are also correct in there doesn't seem to be any creditable

evidence that ozone or other oxidizers can rid a surface of mold. After

all why should anyone expect so??. Mold is a plant and as such are

made up almost entirely of eukaryotic cells which seem resistant to ozone and

such oxidizers. However it has been proven that ozone and also the

products of photocatalytic oxidation will destroy yeasts such as the Candida

Albicans which have deadly hospital implications to those who may be immune

suppressed. While yeasts are not mold as such they are fungal and can be

deadly to those who may be susceptible.

Gibala

PS: Yes Stacey, I do sell the Ozone-Lite along with a number of

other air purifying devices.

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Re: Cigarette Smoke Odors

Group,

I have been refraining from replying to all of you with regard to the

use of ozone for odor removal services, but felt it was necessary to

finally respond. Here goes...You must have the right kind of ozone

generators (UV, not corona discharge)and more than just one or two,

(of course, while occupants and pets are out of the building) to do

the job effectively. We have used up to 20 pieces of equipment

(depending on sq. footage) in order to reach high enough levels of

ozone to do the job effectively and we leave them in place overnight

for smoke removal. The technician re-enters wearing PPE to turn on

the industrial fans already in place, waits about 1/2 hour to 45

min., then uses an ozone meter to determine when it is safe for the

occupants to return (no nitrogens, so it is non corrosive and returns

to oxygen). We have been doing this very successfully for the last 6

years and real estate agents, hotel management and people with

allergies love us! Because we use UV light generated ozone for this

purpose, we are not adding nitrogen oxides to the living space. FYI -

The equipment we use was also used in a study conducted by Aerotech

Laboratories a few years ago where they grew stachy and aspergillus

on drywall sections, they sampled pre and post ozoning (took photos

of each, with a full report) and it was obvious that the molds were

completely oxidized and unable to regenerate. Dr. Rip Rice of the

International Ozone Assoc. has established an Air Treatment Task

Force and upon his review of the Aerotech study, wrote an article for

the IOA newsletter " Ozone News " , Vol. 33, No.3, June, 2005. We are

one of many companies associated with Medallion Healthy Homes (in

Canada and the US)and follow

their methodology to achieve the best

results. So, my message to all of you who would like to remove smoke

odors (tobacco or post-fire), it can be done much easier, without

having to remove everything, SAFELY, using non corrosive equipment

and effectively, not to mention faster and cheaper for the customer.

Pam Young, Co-Owner and assistant to

Gerald Young, GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes

1-

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > :

> > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors in a

house

> > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you, or

others,

> > have advice for this situation. I have a client, with severe MCS

and

> > autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the house

appears to

> > have no significant defects with respect to iaq, except for the

(very)

> > mild cigarette smoke odor.

> > Don Schaezler

> > ETC Information Services, LLC

> > Cibolo, Texas

> >

>

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Dear ,

I question your statement that the OzoneLite " . . . can

saturate a room with enough safe oxidizers . . . " You have yet to

provide us with the information I requested in my message #9178 that

would substantiate your claim that these oxidizers last long enough

to flow throughout a room. Look at message #6613, posted by Jeff

May, which indicates that these oxidizers have an extremely short

existence. Again, If you have any scientific validated evidence to

support your claim that these oxidizers last long enough to flow

throughout a room, please provide it or stop making the claim. If

you are making these claims to your clients and customers, you should

have the evidence to support the claims.

Ron

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> > >

> > > :

> > > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors

in a

> house

> > > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you,

or

> others,

> > > have advice for this situation. I have a client, with severe

MCS

> and

> > > autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the house

> appears to

> > > have no significant defects with respect to iaq, except for

the

> (very)

> > > mild cigarette smoke odor.

> > > Don Schaezler

> > > ETC Information Services, LLC

> > > Cibolo, Texas

> > >

> >

>

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We have not had the opportunity to use our equipment post tear gas

situations. I am contacting other Medallion Healthy Homes companies

to see if any of them have used it for that purpose. It works for

skunk odors and other difficult, noxious odors. Since tear gas is

carbon based, the ozone will attack it. I would caution however that

corona discharge equipment not be used, the nitrogens in conjunction

with tear gas chemicals may pose additional problems with air

quality. I will let you know if I learn of anyone's experience with

a post tear gas situation and what protocol was used.

Pam Young

GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes

1-

>

> >

> > Group,

> >

> > I have been refraining from replying to all of you with regard to

the

> > use of ozone for odor removal services, but felt it was necessary

to

> > finally respond. Here goes...You must have the right kind of

ozone

> > generators (UV, not corona discharge)and more than just one or

two,

> > (of course, while occupants and pets are out of the building) to

do

> > the job effectively. We have used up to 20 pieces of equipment

> > (depending on sq. footage) in order to reach high enough levels of

> > ozone to do the job effectively and we leave them in place

overnight

> > for smoke removal. The technician re-enters wearing PPE to turn

on

> > the industrial fans already in place, waits about 1/2 hour to 45

> > min., then uses an ozone meter to determine when it is safe for

the

> > occupants to return (no nitrogens, so it is non corrosive and

returns

> > to oxygen). We have been doing this very successfully for the

last 6

> > years and real estate agents, hotel management and people with

> > allergies love us! Because we use UV light generated ozone for

this

> > purpose, we are not adding nitrogen oxides to the living space.

FYI -

> > The equipment we use was also used in a study conducted by

Aerotech

> > Laboratories a few years ago where they grew stachy and

aspergillus

> > on drywall sections, they sampled pre and post ozoning (took

photos

> > of each, with a full report) and it was obvious that the molds

were

> > completely oxidized and unable to regenerate. Dr. Rip Rice of the

> > International Ozone Assoc. has established an Air Treatment Task

> > Force and upon his review of the Aerotech study, wrote an article

for

> > the IOA newsletter " Ozone News " , Vol. 33, No.3, June, 2005. We

are

> > one of many companies associated with Medallion Healthy Homes (in

> > Canada and the US)and follow their methodology to achieve the best

> > results. So, my message to all of you who would like to remove

smoke

> > odors (tobacco or post-fire), it can be done much easier, without

> > having to remove everything, SAFELY, using non corrosive equipment

> > and effectively, not to mention faster and cheaper for the

customer.

> >

> > Pam Young, Co-Owner and assistant to

> > Gerald Young, GP Air Restoration of Medallion Healthy Homes

> > 1-

> >

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Actually, I was recently reading a paper entitled " recent developments in fungal taxonomy " or something like that, and they had a graph as part of the paper that showed the fungi as being more closely related (in DNA terms) to animals (which they described as 'genus animalia') than they were to plants.

I thought that was interesting... It explains their tenacity...perhaps..

"Mold is a plant"

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There was a question about: How Long Can You Make an Oxygen Chain?

the center bond in H2O6, and that longer chains will have a higher BDE. Decomposition pathways responsible for the observed instability of the polyoxides higher than hydrogen peroxide are discussed

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http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jacsat/1998/120/i05/abs/ja971534b.html

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Dear Ron, Please introduce yourself... I can not recall having previous discussions with you.. OK... you wish to question the statement regarding Ozone-Lite.... what is the question? By the way I had not received your message #9178 as I am not a regular subscriber to this list... I turn it off for days at a time when I am traveling. So I will apologize if there is anything you feel I have been improper about. In the future please send questions directly to me to my email address. If I don't answer in two weeks feel free to follow up. Sometimes the electrons get lost in their travels. Have you read the Dr. Marsden report from Kansas State?? Please do and then we can discuss further. It's been discussed on the site. Have you researched the literature on the subject using the keywords: <Photocatalysis>, <"Photocatalytic Oxidation">?? Please do and then let's discuss. Have you had the opportunity to review the article "How Long Can You Make an Oxygen Chain?" by J. McKay and S. ? It is an eleven page presentation discussing the the oxidizing ability of H2O2, H2O3, and H2O5. It was published in the Journal of the American Chemical Society. Here's what I understand... Since the discovery of photocatalysis by Fujishimna in 1972 a number of new industries have developed. One is the development of air purification devices including that adapted by NASA to keep the air purified in space capsules. That NASA device today has in my opinion spurred the activity of all producers of PCO purifiers including those produced by EcoQuest, RGF, and Ozone-Lite. No one seems to be able to explain fully how they work to everyone's satisfaction so I shouldn't attempt to discuss the science. Another industry is the use of TiO2 catalysts imbedded in plate glass so window glass can be self cleaning from the outside and generate anti-bacterial properties from the inside. Corning and PPG have already invested millions in this technology. Another is wall coverings where a TiO2 spray can coat a wall and be totally invisible yet react with daylight, fluorescent light or incandescent light depending on the formula of the catalyst and keep a room virtually free of odor and microbials. Table lamps and room decorations with sizable surfaces coated with TiO2 are showing anti-microbial properties when the room is fully illuminated. Floor tiles and ground tiles are being marketed with catalytic surfaces and are being tested in a number of hospitals in Japan. They promise to keep down microbial growth on room floors, hall ways and sidewalks. I have seen reports and videos of side walk surfaces at subway entrances along a main street where the NOx from street trucks is greatly reduced and the structures adjacent to the sidewalks become virtual self cleaning because of the hydrophilic properties of the coatings. The Marsden report says that in test chamber microbials will cease to exist in 24 hours.... The test seems to be applicable to any room such as your bedroom... your kitchen... the butchering shop at the supermarket. The test can be interpreted that exposed surfaces anywhere in a room under treatment will become virtually germ free in 24 hours with the implication that continual treatment will keep the room germ free as long as treatment is applied. Your concern with how hydroxyl radicals can travel a number of feet to kill germs when they are suppose to be so short-lived is a question I can not answer. All I can do is invite you to perform your own test or read the literature. I am aware of Jim Mays' comments and I regard Dr. Mays with the greatest of respect and deference. However his discussions with you were in relation to germicidal UV and the oxidation resulting therefrom. I believe that discussion originated from a report he shared of germicidal UV successes at a hospital in Toronto as reported in an issue of Lancet. And now it appears you are thinking those comments should be applicable to oxidizing products including hydroxyls resulting from photocatalytic action. I disagree. We have two different technologies. The Toronto project was a germicidal UV project. The only oxidizing products coming from that project were those produced from the face of the UV bulb itself as there was no catalyst and therefore no photocatalytic oxidation. The NASA technology is entirely different technology. The NASA Technology creates a family of oxidizers including hydroxyls, hydro peroxides and probably even hydro pentoxides. By the way Wane Baker's ridiculing of my use of the expression O5 is germane to this discussion. While there is no such chemical compound as O5 the expression has been used to represent the family of advanced oxidizers resulting from PCO. However I do not wish to again raise Wane's ire so let us simply call the products what they really are.... advanced oxygen products!! Again how long they can exist I do not know... or what intermediate products may be produced I do not care.... What I care about simply is our space crews are living in air protected by machines using photocatalytic technology and that technology is available today to those who may wish to avail themselves of it. In closing let me suggest you ask our esteemed member from Colorado, Mr. Carl Grimes to perform his own on the spot investigation and visit the NASA Space Foundation at Boulder. He could interview their staff regarding how astronauts are provided uncontaminated air. They should be able to explain to everyone's satisfaction how the technology works. Of course if Carl comes back and reports its all phony that our astronauts carry bottled air to outer space I'll quit the business and feel like a jerk. Fond regards, Gibala===================== Re: Cigarette Smoke OdorsDear ,I question your statement that the OzoneLite " . . . can saturate a room with enough safe oxidizers . . ." You have yet to provide us with the information I requested in my message #9178 that would substantiate your claim that these oxidizers last long enough to flow throughout a room. Look at message #6613, posted by Jeff May, which indicates that these oxidizers have an extremely short existence. Again, If you have any scientific validated evidence to support your claim that these oxidizers last long enough to flow throughout a room, please provide it or stop making the claim. If you are making these claims to your clients and customers, you should have the evidence to support the claims. Ron> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :> > > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke odors in a > house> > > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do you, or > others,> > > have advice for this situation. 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Hi ,

I am very familiar with the references and the technologies you

refer to which is why I asked my question. I am not questioning the

efficacy of the various oxidizers produced but rather am questioning

the claims made about their distribution. EcoQuest, in its technical

information on its RCI Technology states: " Combining high intensity

UVX light with a specially developed rare metal hydrophilic coating

on an engineered matrix, Radiant Catalytic Ionization (RCI) reduces

airborne contaminants, and odors while creating superoxide ions and

hydroperoxides. These products of our Advanced Oxidation Process

continue working to reduce more odors and VOC's, and to attack

microorganisms. " They go on to say " AOP reactants remain effective

after leaving the RCI unit as a 'purifying plasma.' " This claim is

the basis for my question. May was answering my question

when he said " Although there (are) a few relatively complex free

radical molecules that have been 'designed,' a small free radical has

no more than a fraction of a second existence (nanoseconds,

femtoseconds, etc.)and is generally considered as only an

intermediate in a chemical reaction. " If this is indeed true, and I

have found no evidence to the contrary, then the claim that this AOP

exists away from the site of the production of the various oxidizers

is blatantly false and should not be made. Since you are so

knowledgeable and up to date in this area, please provide

scientifically valid studies, references, papers, etc. to support the

position that these oxidizers last long enough to exist away from the

site where they are produced.

Regards,

Ron

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :

> > > > Will this same procedure work for mild cigarette smoke

odors

> in a

> > house

> > > > to be purchased by a person with severe MCS? If not, do

you,

> or

> > others,

> > > > have advice for this situation. I have a client, with

severe

> MCS

> > and

> > > > autoimmune disease, with a contract to buy a house, the

house

> > appears to

> > > > have no significant defects with respect to iaq, except for

> the

> > (very)

> > > > mild cigarette smoke odor.

> > > > Don Schaezler

> > > > ETC Information Services, LLC

> > > > Cibolo, Texas

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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