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Hello,

I'm not a regular poster here, but I can hear your frustration and couldn't

pass up responding. I want to offer you support, some kind of reminder that

you are a good parent, that your hair will re-grow. (sorry, sick attempt at

humor)

I don't know much about autism yet. My daughter's not yet 5, and her issues

are mostly centered around communication. I have never (yet) had to deal

with behavior issues.

What I have read is that a lot of behaviors are sensory related. Can you

look into more of a sensory diet at school? Bear hug vest? Therapeutic

listening? More vestibular movement? An old wading pool filled with beans

or corn to submerge her skin in? Swimming? (heavy work, physical work to

wear her out?) Any clue what is sparking the outbursts? A child, a color,

a new teacher?

Could the writing on the walls be a sign of frustration at her communication

level? Could a dry-erase board help? Or line a wall of her room with a

used school-style chalkboard? Does she need more artistic outlets?

How is she sleeping?

I know others here have a lot more experience and great ideas. I just read

the pain in your words and wanted to let you know I was thinking of you.

Doreen

puberty and behavioral problems

Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write this

as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most part,

very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through some

very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste everywhere,

making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to do

that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her but

the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of laundry

gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love her

but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

Anything at all....thanks.

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this to sounds much like of me as a y ounger girl and yes because

lacked how to play or what things to do to entertain of self that was

of typical i tooften found my own sort of play and things I to loved.

it often led of me to troubles and yet had no cognitions to

understand why my play kept upsetting those around me. it sounds like

she may have interest to art, drawing, cloloring and or marking to

have a cause and effect real of actions. it also sounds like this

with the toothpaste too (cause and effect) I to do this and this

consistenly happens such if i to squeeze the toothpaste out comes

this paste of fun and it can be to make art and it is of ever so fun

and I to might like the smell and taste and such. it is of consistent

because verytime I to do it is of the same results.

same way with coloring and markers etc.... I to do this with the tool

and out comes this mark which I to created and it is of so

interesting how this tool works and so now I to want to experiement

each time I to see of this tool to see what color or texture will

come out because part of it is consistent but part is not and so

stuck there trying to find out the causes and effect in wonder what

color or texture will come out of this pen, marker crayon ect...

It might be of good to give her things of cause in effect in a

structured setting as her down time play. set rules coloring is only

on paper, or dry erase or whatever you chose...... give her finger

pints in tubes and such so she can squeeze to get of the same feel of

toothpaste( which is toxic and can cause mental retardations of

consumed) which makes no sense why it is to go into the mouth if it

is not a good choice to swollow it as how many children understand of

that..... but anyways the other things is to be to have of the

exposure to her seeking things into a structured set time each day

for her to safely explore. but place all the explored things into a

out of sight place and or locked up to prevent chaos.

If she is not one to climb over baby gates.. then make os sure her

room is of baby proofed and when you need to clean of the house or go

to a place where she will be unsupervised then place her to her room

for safety not punishment for a short brief time to assure her

safety. place new alteranting toys of interest in there so it can be

a fun break away such as wooden inset puzzels and then next time

maybe a sound effect book or somethings of interest to her that is of

a safe outlet for her to do. When taking her to her room tell her it

is her down time to play and you break time. set of the timer and

when it goes off make sure to go and get of her and praise of her for

her having a good down time to her self.

Sondra

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>

> Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write

this

> as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

> beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most

part,

> very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through

some

> very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

> teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

> her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

> chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste

everywhere,

> making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

> doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to

do

> that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

> wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

> because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her

but

> the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of

laundry

> gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love

her

> but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

> Anything at all....thanks.

>

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Hi There,

My daughter is going to be 11 next month and perhaps we can put the two in a

group home together. (also just kidding). Last night she had an hour long

tantrum for just about nothing. She said reading is stupid and of course I am

evil and was making her read. What the heck was I thinking. Do you think that

the raging hormones are doing her in? I think that is what is happening to my

daughter. She is fine one minute and a lunatic the next. She too is sweet.

She too writes on everything. She shares a room with her older sister and she

is always writing on everything of hers. She will write messages to her sister

in sharpie on her posters. I thought they were going to kill eachother last

week when the older sister decided to retaliate and write " Giana is a loser " on

her Hannah Montana poster. Seriously I thought I was going to have to put my

older one in a witness protection program for her own safety. Luckily I was

able to find a replacement poster before there was any blood shed. I did

however have to sleep in their room that night because I was afraid to leave

them alone. They both had evil in their eyes.

I have also been thinking of medication (for myself) nah just kidding. I just

think their bodies and minds are changing so much right now that medication for

my daughter anyway is not a good choice for now. You should talk to the doctor

some more and see if it will help Lily. My daughter hit a lot, but she just

hits me no one else. Isn't that interesting? She never hits at school or any

other times...just me. Music is very calming for my daughter. Does your

daughter listen to anything in particular that you can use as a reward. For

instance you can listen to this CD while I take a shower and if you behave you

can listen to it again tomorrow while I do laundry.

I guess I don't have any real advice, just wanted you to know that I feel your

pain.

Terri

puberty and behavioral problems

Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write this

as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most part,

very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through some

very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste everywhere,

making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to do

that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her but

the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of laundry

gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love her

but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

Anything at all....thanks.

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Hi All...

This conversation is interesting...but I want a solution SOON!!

My daughter is 16 1/2 low functioning...is in public high school...She has been

hitting...which includes teachers, aides, students, sister, and parents since

she was about 8 years old...

The elementary school wasn't much help...she was more and more isolated because

of the hitting..understandable of course...but it didn't help either...

Middle school had a behavioral therapist come in...he helped some there...but he

was a temporary solution.....

Drugs of course were suggested..but the side effects of drugs, particularly on

my husbands side of the family....my sister in law nearly died of Wellbutrin

reaction...and my mother in law over blood pressure meds...and that's just the

tip of the iceburg...

She is in high school..second year...and having trouble with

school...freshman...which were some of her previous classmates.....and some of

them hit..which she copies...but they can control them....(meaning other

students) while my daughter will go on and on with it....

She interrupts our conversations at home... (with vocal noises) especially her

sister... sister gets angry and they fight.....and sister hits BACK......she is

13..normal/typical....

I'm going out of my mind...with the two of them....

puberty and behavioral problems

Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write this

as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most part,

very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through some

very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste everywhere,

making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to do

that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her but

the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of laundry

gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love her

but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

Anything at all....thanks.

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Evening primrose oil can help (did wonders for me) with PMS. However,

make sure you don't over do it, it can lower seizure thresholds if too

much is taken. I would think 1-2 caps a day would be sufficient.

Has she been able to express why she's hitting? Do you think there's

any teasing or talking about her that she's hearing? That might make

her mad and want to hurt them back.

I'm also reading significant sensory in your daughter's issues. I

remember Temple Grandin talking about a couple of 45 minute hard

workouts a day can significantly reduce outbursts and sensory

problems. Is it possible to try a winter swim team? That would give

her exercise (that also keeps hormones in check) and sensory input

with the water.

How does she do with helping you do housework? I know with Allie it's

like pulling teeth, but I have to get better at getting her involved.

If she's folding towels and mopping floors she's getting exercise,

sensory input, and she's near supervision. You all could try cooking

together, nothing like rolling biscuit or cookie dough to get that

toothpasty feel. My oldest NT LOVES squishing meatloaf between her

fingers -- GROSS!! Since I hate it, it works out well. Doing household

tasks together not only gets the sensory thing, it teaches her

self-help skills. My girls fight over who gets to squirt the cleaner

on the coffee table for a wipedown.

<sigh> I sound like my house should be clean!

HTH,

Debi

--- In Autism_in_Girls , " scaboobady " w

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I to remember when of being age of 13 or so was when I to go to crisis

states of being too it lasted for many years before finally began to

find an inner calm in me too.

So I to understand the fear, frustrations and overwhelms as parents to

teen or pre teen girls on the spectrum.

Sondra

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My daughter is 10 1/2 and she's definitely in the middle of puberty. Her

behaviour has changed completely. She also used to be so sweet and even

tempered. Now however, if I even look at her, she gets on the defensive

with " what are you looking at me for???!!! " She cries at the drop of a hat,

rages at me and our dog (she's careful not to do this to her father), tries

to nudge me out of her way with her body (she's also careful not to actually

hit me, she knows this won't be tolerated). She is already on medication

and it does help some, believe me. However, I believe it's time to adjust

her dosages. IMHO I think your daughter should be on medication. You are

already doing all you can and it might save everyone's sanity. Believe me,

I don't suggest this casually, I waited years before putting my daughter on

meds. However, I just had to face facts that unless I tried medication for

my daughter, she was reaching the point that everyone who had to work with

her on her various therapies as well as at school, were fast becoming fed up

with dealing with her. Her behaviour was also making her own life unhappy.

In our case, meds did help.

Diane ('s Mom)

puberty and behavioral problems

Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write this

as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most part,

very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through some

very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste everywhere,

making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to do

that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her but

the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of laundry

gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love her

but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

Anything at all....thanks.

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Hi Diane,

I am glad to hear medication is working for your daughter. Our behavioral

pediatrician said that my daughter's symptoms were to scattered and that

medication would be very difficult for her. I am doing homework with her now

and she just got mad and broke a pencil and then threw it at me. Some times the

whole situation is so discouraging.

Terri

puberty and behavioral problems

Hi...I'm new here...this is my first post...I felt driven to write this

as I sit here tearing my hair out for the upmteenth time...I have a

beautiful 11-1/2 year old daughter, Lily, who is, for the most part,

very sweet, very verbal and very autistic. She is going through some

very difficult times...she has been hitting at school, other kids,

teachers, aides...she doesn't hit me or my husband and we don't hit

her....at home her behavior is horrible...writing on the walls with

chalk, pencils, non-removable marker, smearing toothpaste everywhere,

making the most noise possible...our ABA therapy doesn't seem to be

doing the trick...I'm thinking about medication but I hesitate to do

that...I would prefer not to use medication....but I am at my

wit's...all we do is fight lately, I find myself pushing her away

because she is stressing me beyond belief...I try to supervise her but

the 2 minutes I take to use the bathroom or change a load of laundry

gives her ample opportunity to turn the house upside down...I love her

but right now I'd thinking foster home (just kidding)...any ideas?

Anything at all....thanks.

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Let me preface this by saying I don't believe drugs are generally ever

a good idea. I believe a person should try everything they can to

avoid it. That said, I believe there also comes a time that the drug

option can be a real option.

Temple Grandin's book Thinking In Pictures talks about her taking

drugs to deal with increasing anxiety. She credits medication as

allowing her to survive. While there are some great alternative

solutions, such as diets, supplements, meditation, OT, exercise, etc,

sometimes medication is all that is left. The question to me then

becomes which is worse? I know we looked at this issue with Allie and

decided if all she could do was lay on her back and scream all day

long, there was no way for her to ever learn social skills,

participate in education, etc. After much research and talking with

lots of families, we decided to give SSRIs a try, and it has made all

the difference in her. She went from 20-30+ tantrums over EVERYTHING

to a slight whimper. I didn't do it because I couldn't take her

screaming, I did it to allow her to be able to live. What sort of life

is being so freaked out all you are able to do is scream? It must be

scary, hurtful, and exhausting.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say you *should* consider

it. For your situation, it could be perfectly wrong. I just know I was

one who was 100% anti-medicating kids, I'm still not real fond of it.

But, looking back, I'm so glad we decided to try it. What if a

quarter-dose of a mild sedative could calm her enough to stop hitting

and start participating? Or 1/2 of a 25 mg zoloft might help her be

able to verbalize her feelings. Allie became much more verbal within 2

days of paxil, she only took 2.5 mg. A lot of people on this board

give clonidine to help their kids sleep. I know one woman who tried

dan! and other treatments and her daughter by age 5 was so violent

they didn't know what they were gonna do. They began giving her some

respiradol, which can have horrific side-effects, but their child was

able to sleep a regular night (instead of 1 hr every 24) and stopped

abusing her sisters. It saved this child and the family. It's hard to

make a choice between the side effects of the drug and watching your

child beat up your two other children.

Again, I'm not saying you should do it, just suggesting that as

horrible as it sounds, it can also be bad not to give a person the

option of something that could really help.

Debi

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Hey Debi,

I was wondering if you had any feed back on melatonin for me. I just started

giving ella .25 mg 2 nights ago...shes been sleeping like never before, but

tonight its only 6pm and shes out...OUT! I am worried she might get off

schedule, but she also is sleeping so soundly I feel bad to wake her...

Ive never seen her so still and peaceful in her sleep, is she catching up

maybe?

Just though id ask for a little support, as this is the first of anything, Ive

ever really given her, and I feel a bit worried already.

Thank in advance,

Aimee

Debi wrote:

Evening primrose oil can help (did wonders for me) with PMS. However,

make sure you don't over do it, it can lower seizure thresholds if too

much is taken. I would think 1-2 caps a day would be sufficient.

Has she been able to express why she's hitting? Do you think there's

any teasing or talking about her that she's hearing? That might make

her mad and want to hurt them back.

I'm also reading significant sensory in your daughter's issues. I

remember Temple Grandin talking about a couple of 45 minute hard

workouts a day can significantly reduce outbursts and sensory

problems. Is it possible to try a winter swim team? That would give

her exercise (that also keeps hormones in check) and sensory input

with the water.

How does she do with helping you do housework? I know with Allie it's

like pulling teeth, but I have to get better at getting her involved.

If she's folding towels and mopping floors she's getting exercise,

sensory input, and she's near supervision. You all could try cooking

together, nothing like rolling biscuit or cookie dough to get that

toothpasty feel. My oldest NT LOVES squishing meatloaf between her

fingers -- GROSS!! Since I hate it, it works out well. Doing household

tasks together not only gets the sensory thing, it teaches her

self-help skills. My girls fight over who gets to squirt the cleaner

on the coffee table for a wipedown.

<sigh> I sound like my house should be clean!

HTH,

Debi

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When do you give it to her? For Allie, I can't give it much more than

30 min before bedtime, she falls over sound asleep like Ella. Seems

like I've read other parents report it making their kids a little

groggy during the day, but it sounds like you aren't giving her much

at all.

If I were you, I think I'd try skipping it a couple of days and see

what happens. Can you half that dose? Do you think she's growing or

getting sick? Seems like when my girls are doing either they sleep an

awful lot. Has she started anything new, new programming, new

caregivers, anything like that? Sometimes a change can wear them out, too.

HTH,

Debi

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