autistic girl murdered where I used to live

[Guest guest]

Yep. This is what all the epidemic and hopelessness

propoganda gets ya. Another murdered autistic child.

She was 3. Her mother put her head in a bag, smothered

her, then took her home and put her in bed.

And another mother from the area is defending her.

Thank you media, families, organizations, etc for

making it OK to kill us. See

www.geocities.com/growingjoel and look for the murder

of autistics page. wasn't the first, she

won't be the last, and people should be getting ANGRY.

Not defending MURDER. " well we don't have supports " my

butt. 40 hrs a week respite is MORE than supports. Try

being an autistic adult in that area.

Or try being the kid murdered.

Kassiane

mad as hell

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[Guest guest]

Aw, Kassie, this is horrible!

I'm upset with you.

>

> Yep. This is what all the epidemic and hopelessness

> propoganda gets ya. Another murdered autistic child.

> She was 3. Her mother put her head in a bag, smothered

> her, then took her home and put her in bed.

>

> And another mother from the area is defending her.

>

> Thank you media, families, organizations, etc for

> making it OK to kill us. See

> www.geocities.com/growingjoel and look for the murder

> of autistics page. wasn't the first, she

> won't be the last, and people should be getting ANGRY.

>

>

> Not defending MURDER. " well we don't have supports " my

> butt. 40 hrs a week respite is MORE than supports. Try

> being an autistic adult in that area.

>

> Or try being the kid murdered.

>

> Kassiane

> mad as hell

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

what is of a sounding board?

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Sondra, it means a place where one can complain, say what we are

feeling just for the sake of getting it out without anyone taking the

comments personally. In other words, we who are the " sounding board "

are to let the comments bounce off of us without absorbing it. Here's

the literal def:

The sounding board or soundboard is the largest part of a string

musical instrument's body. It produces sound by resonance and

transmits the reverberations of the strings to the air. Sounding

boards are customarily made of wood, and most instruments have two

sounding boards, an upper and a lower one. Some folk instruments have

only one sounding board. An upper sounding board, the top part of the

instrument's body, usually has sound holes in it. The holes can have

different shapes; round in guitars, f-holes in violin family

instruments, rosettes in lutes, and so on.

Sounding boards of some instruments have unique names, such as plate,

or belly (the latter in a violin).

For the piano, the sounding board is the back of the instrument (if an

upright) or the bottom portion of the case (if a grand piano). The

harp has a soundboard below the strings.

More generally, any hard surface can act as a sounding board, for

example when a tuning fork is struck and placed against such a surface

to amplify the sound.

[Guest guest]

I think we're all upset. It breaks my heart, the little girl was only

3 years old. She had barely begun to live. Any child being murdered by

their mother is horrible, how much more so when the child is disabled,

those who need protecting the most.

It is very frustrating to read about a parent killing a child and then

everyone feels sorry for the mom. I don't know this mom or her

situation, but the articles I've read highlights a mother who seemed

to have it all together. If she was in need, she never told anyone.

It's one thing to ask for help and not get it, it's something else to

never ask. And, even if rejected the help, murder is not the answer.

Heck, she coulda put her up for adoption, taken her to a hospital and

left her, etc.

Debi

[Guest guest]

so people can be a sounding board? do i to be a sounding board? if so

can you give examples of the sounds my board gives off? i to

understand things more if they are related to me in some fashion, if

a new concept to me. trying hard to associate but since not one with

any knowing of instrument words lack how to visualize the concepts. i

to know flute, guitar and names of instruments but lack parts of thems

and or how to work them.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Like when Kassi was complaining about the death of this little girl.

She wasn't directing her words at anyone, she was simply saying them

in hopes everyone would hear her and not take it personally. Like a

guitar. The hole is there to let the music go inside, bounce off the

wood back and sides(sounding board) and be louder. Instead of Kassi's

words going inside one's heart and the person feeling directed at

them, we were to let her words hit us and bounce out of the hole like

the guitar does.

Debi

>

> so people can be a sounding board? do i to be a sounding board? if so

> can you give examples of the sounds my board gives off? i to

> understand things more if they are related to me in some fashion, if

> a new concept to me. trying hard to associate but since not one with

> any knowing of instrument words lack how to visualize the concepts. i

> to know flute, guitar and names of instruments but lack parts of thems

> and or how to work them.

> Sondra

>

[Guest guest]

The sad fact is that that is how that mother felt. I don't think it

was appropriate for her to say in front of her child, obviously, but

not saying it doesn't make it not true. Even knowing it is a horrible

thing to think doesn't stop her from thinking it. That mom needs

help, and not in the form of respite. She needs psyciatric care. Yes

I feel bad for her. I feel worse for her child. But I think it is

better that she admitted to her feelings so that someone is watching

her and she does not act out on her feelings. For a video that is

attempting to show the difficulties of parenting an autistic child,

that is a valid inclusion, because it is a valid feeling. Right or

wrong, it is still a true emotion.

Unfortunately, feeling overwhelmed and wanting to get rid of their

kids in some way is not unique to parents of autistic children. It is

not even unique to parents of disabled children. There are a lot of

moms who feel that way for a lot of different reasons. The majority

of them do not act on those feelings and recognize that they need

help. Sadly, others do not seek help, or it is not available to them,

and those mothers either attack or abandon their children. I belong

to a lot of parenting groups, for parents of kids with delays and for

parents of typical kids. People often feel safe admitting to these

sorts of feelings online because it it annonymous. I have heard it

from both groups. Sometimes it is a passing moment, and typed out of

frustration on a bad day, sometimes it is a sign of deeper

depression. But it happens to a lot of people.

Amnesty

> > >

> > > Yep. This is what all the epidemic and

> > hopelessness

> > > propoganda gets ya. Another murdered autistic

> > child.

> > > She was 3. Her mother put her head in a bag,

> > smothered

> > > her, then took her home and put her in bed.

> > >

> > > And another mother from the area is defending her.

> > >

> > > Thank you media, families, organizations, etc for

> > > making it OK to kill us. See

> > > www.geocities.com/growingjoel and look for the

> > murder

> > > of autistics page. wasn't the first, she

> > > won't be the last, and people should be getting

> > ANGRY.

> > >

> > >

> > > Not defending MURDER. " well we don't have

> > supports " my

> > > butt. 40 hrs a week respite is MORE than supports.

> > Try

> > > being an autistic adult in that area.

> > >

> > > Or try being the kid murdered.

> > >

> > > Kassiane

> > > mad as hell

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

" Amnesty " yes there is as I to learned a two sides to every truth

and this is of sad but true many parents for one reason or otehrs

can no longer cope the grief is too intense and it over time causes

the parents to want to end it all, to ned the source of pains and

suffering it is of a real emotions and I tonot be saying the mom was

wrong to have of them feelings at all because it is of human emotion

at times to be so overwhelmed by grief that one cant seem to grasp

hope or life. each person gireves very different and for this mom it

sounds like the pain for her child is of so intense she cant bare to

see it and or cope it anymore.

I to not be to condemn the mom at all for voiceing out her very real

fears and concerns even for her self. But in love for this child she

also shared she would go with her and leave her so called typical

child behind she couldnot do it because she realize the ration of

this is not fair to either. some families are more sensitive to loss

than others. it is hard for them because one cant tell what they

know or what their future might be to look like and so yes as mom

too I to understand this feeling in moms but for me was just sharing

it was sad to hear her voice it so in front of the little girl. she

was of a cutie by the way and still in all the videos i to seen

portraying autism this to me was the best because of the impact of

it to show the real need for services and funding to come in for

families in regards to autism. I to actually hope it to receives an

award. because most often they do shows that reflect HFA or

Aspergers like kids and seldom do they show of shows of the other

side of autism. and to me this was of a great short film and did

portray much of the kids and families i to know too.

Sondra