Potty training

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Thank you. Tonight I saw my daughter wiggling like she had to go. I

immediately brought her to the potty and she went. I just some how need to

get her to know- wiggling = time to go to the potty!! Thanks for all

support.

Jen

Re: Potty Training

> Hi,

> My daughter began potty training at age three. It took about two years but

> she was doing very well, wearing pull-ups at night only. She wouldn't

transition

> to a toilet, though, and would only use this one particular kind of potty,

so

> I bought three-one for home, one for school, and one to lug around in a

big

> green trash bag when we'd go somewhere lol! I can laugh about it

> now......anyway, when she was six her Dad and I split up. We moved,she and

I, and I decided

> that I'd use he move as impetus to get her on the toilet. I wrote her a

social

> story basically explaining that the new house had no potty. I got her a

wide

> secure plastic stool to rest her feet on when she sat on the toilet--I

think

> this helped her feel more secure. She was excited to see the new house and

I

> made sure she had some new things like a play tent filled with her stuffed

> animals and a new soft blanekt.I think she was so happy about those things

and

> focused on them that it helped with the toilet. She began to use it right

away and

> seemed to totally accept that the new place just didn't have a potty. And

> she stopped wearing pull-ups at night about age seven. So, hang in there,

it

> will happen. I know it is frustrating, but I agree that many of them can't

feel

> the body signals, or don't feel them in time. I would keep up with he

taking

> her to the toilet frequently, keep the pull-ups on and make a really

really big

> deal of it when she does manage to go in the potty. Good luck, please keep

us

> posted.

> Melinda

>

>

>

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Hi,

My daughter began potty training at age three. It took about two years but

she was doing very well, wearing pull-ups at night only. She wouldn't transition

to a toilet, though, and would only use this one particular kind of potty, so

I bought three-one for home, one for school, and one to lug around in a big

green trash bag when we'd go somewhere lol! I can laugh about it

now......anyway, when she was six her Dad and I split up. We moved,she and I,

and I decided

that I'd use he move as impetus to get her on the toilet. I wrote her a social

story basically explaining that the new house had no potty. I got her a wide

secure plastic stool to rest her feet on when she sat on the toilet--I think

this helped her feel more secure. She was excited to see the new house and I

made sure she had some new things like a play tent filled with her stuffed

animals and a new soft blanekt.I think she was so happy about those things and

focused on them that it helped with the toilet. She began to use it right away

and

seemed to totally accept that the new place just didn't have a potty. And

she stopped wearing pull-ups at night about age seven. So, hang in there, it

will happen. I know it is frustrating, but I agree that many of them can't feel

the body signals, or don't feel them in time. I would keep up with he taking

her to the toilet frequently, keep the pull-ups on and make a really really big

deal of it when she does manage to go in the potty. Good luck, please keep us

posted.

Melinda

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What I have learned is that it is not feeling the need to go. My son(HFA) is

12, and still has accidents, unless he is on a timed schedule. Girls that I

have worked with in school, are the same way.

Crystal

Sagginario wrote:

I have been training my daugther who will be 5 the end of June for 2 YEARS!

I just watched a home video of her right after her third birthday in which I

mention that nna is a " big girl and did pee-pee on the potty today. Ugh

almost two years later and we haven't progressed much.... when will she get

it!!!!!?????? She is still just peeing whenever she has to go and doesn't

even get upset or tell me. She just goes on playing or whatever. Weird

thing is, she has her bowel movements trained to the potty so why not the

pee-pee? Any suggestions on a new plan? She is starting kindergarten in

Sept. I'm so tired of buying expensive pull ups and having her clothes not

fit right. She's a big girl that wears a size 7 and those clothes are not

made for kids in diapers. I've tried the panty thing all day and she just

pees in them. I have tried just being naked down there too.... If I take

her every hour she does better, less accidents but still at least one to two

accidents a day. Its very frustrating! Is she really uncapable of getting

this concept? Is it her low muscle tone? sensory? or is she stuck in a

habit that is hard to now get out of?

Hl

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Children with autism have a much more difficult time with potty training. It

takes longer for them. My dd was 41/2 when I bought her the video " Once Upon a

Potty for Girls " . It was the best $13 dollars I ever spent! I got it at Babies R

Us. I highly recommend this video. Hannah watched it for 3 days straight and

that is what did it for her! She still wears a pull up at night, but never uses

it. She is in big girl underwear all day with no accidents. Best wishes! Hang in

there!

Janet

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From: Autism_in_Girls on behalf of Sagginario

Sent: Sat 3/18/2006 3:24 PM

To: Autism_in_Girls

Subject: Potty Training

I have been training my daugther who will be 5 the end of June for 2 YEARS!

I just watched a home video of her right after her third birthday in which I

mention that nna is a " big girl and did pee-pee on the potty today. Ugh

almost two years later and we haven't progressed much.... when will she get

it!!!!!?????? She is still just peeing whenever she has to go and doesn't

even get upset or tell me. She just goes on playing or whatever. Weird

thing is, she has her bowel movements trained to the potty so why not the

pee-pee? Any suggestions on a new plan? She is starting kindergarten in

Sept. I'm so tired of buying expensive pull ups and having her clothes not

fit right. She's a big girl that wears a size 7 and those clothes are not

made for kids in diapers. I've tried the panty thing all day and she just

pees in them. I have tried just being naked down there too.... If I take

her every hour she does better, less accidents but still at least one to two

accidents a day. Its very frustrating! Is she really uncapable of getting

this concept? Is it her low muscle tone? sensory? or is she stuck in a

habit that is hard to now get out of?

Hl

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When you absolutely feel you cannot take it another second... a week

after that she'll mysteriously train.

<G>

Debi

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I did the " Once Upon Potty " with too. That really helped. I also

scheduled times to go try to potty (trying every half hour or so). It was

days of nothing but potty training but it helped. was well over 4

before he was potty trained, but now we have a chart on the wall next to the

toilet otherwise he will just roll toilet paper in to the toilet and play in

the water. That was the second hard step. Once he learned to go potty,

that was only part of the challenge, but getting him to stay focused on the

potty routine was hard.

Nadine

Potty Training

I have been training my daugther who will be 5 the end of June for 2 YEARS!

I just watched a home video of her right after her third birthday in which I

mention that nna is a " big girl and did pee-pee on the potty today. Ugh

almost two years later and we haven't progressed much.... when will she get

it!!!!!?????? She is still just peeing whenever she has to go and doesn't

even get upset or tell me. She just goes on playing or whatever. Weird

thing is, she has her bowel movements trained to the potty so why not the

pee-pee? Any suggestions on a new plan? She is starting kindergarten in

Sept. I'm so tired of buying expensive pull ups and having her clothes not

fit right. She's a big girl that wears a size 7 and those clothes are not

made for kids in diapers. I've tried the panty thing all day and she just

pees in them. I have tried just being naked down there too.... If I take

her every hour she does better, less accidents but still at least one to two

accidents a day. Its very frustrating! Is she really uncapable of getting

this concept? Is it her low muscle tone? sensory? or is she stuck in a

habit that is hard to now get out of?

Hl

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I've mentioned this before over the years, but I'm a big fan of the

" kamakazi method " . You take a long weekend and move everything into

the bathroom -- tv, toys, eat there, etc. You pretty much keep your

child on the potty until they pee, then praise & let them up for 5-10

minutes, then back on the potty again. You do this all day for several

days, giving all the fluids you can to them along the way. The goal is

to get them peeing a bunch & seeing that it goes in the potty. Many of

our kids are routine-obsessed, so if you make it a routine, she will

probably adjust.

Allie wasn't fully trained when we did this, but she was close, she

would go potty at school all day, then come home and intentionally

pee/poop in the floor. Lol, I had numerous prayer requests going out

about poop.

Another thing that helped Allie quickly. We would set the oven timer

and when it went off she had to sit on the potty. After about 3 times

of that, she began peeing on herself as soon as she heard the timer,

so then we'd put her on the potty just prior to the timer going off to

help her want to void.

Some kids also have problems letting go of it in the potty. I've heard

lots of people start with putting a TINY hole in their pullup and

having them sit on the commode in their pullup until they pee,

slightly enlarging the hole each time. This can help overcome the

sensory differences & get them used to peeing in the seated position.

HTH,

Debi

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Hi:

I recently joined the group but haven't had a chance to read e-mails for the

past couple weeks (too many people sick in the house). I'm sorry it's taken me

so long to respond to this thread.

I live in South Florida and have 4 year old boy/girl twins. My daughter has

autism; my son is NT.

After several half-hearted attempts, we finally succeeded in potty-training my

daughter. We followed a program presented by Roselione from UM-CARD. The

first 3 days were horrible but the program really does work.

We started by gathering our best reinforcers and making a visual toilet

schedule and prize sheet. Her " prizes " were the best reinforcers (i.e. favorite

toy, book) we could come up with. They were kept in the bathroom on top of a

shelf in a ziploc bag. We bought several Gerber cloth training pants (about 4

packages!). We started one morning as soon as she woke up. We put on the

training pants and began taking her to the potty every 30 minutes. We showed

her a potty picture and said " time for potty " to lead her on. We placed her on

the potty and showed her the visual schedule and went over each step (sit down,

go potty, wipe, flush, wash hands, PRIZE!). We only wiped, flushed and wiped

hands after successes. Most kids love to flush so that can be a motivator for

some children. She could only sit on the potty for 30-90 seconds with no books

or toys. We logged each attempt and accident (time, location, urine/BM/no). We

had about 6 accidents the first day and no

successes. We used overnites only when she went to bed. The second day was

horrendous. She began to deliberately have an accident every 15 minutes;

usually right before her scheduled trip to the bathroom. We had 15 accidents

that day and I was ready to scream. I was washing training pants every hour or

so. Per , you can't show any negative reaction to the accident. Just a

neutral " you're wet, let's go potty " and to the bathroom to sit on the potty and

change clothes. All clothes were kept in the bathroom. We would do dry checks

(you're dry, great job) in between. The third day we actually had a couple

successes and she went back to her normal schedule of voiding every 1 1/2 - 2

hours. Once we had her pattern down after about 4 days, we would increase the

time length between trips (every hour, 90 minutes). Successes were highly

praised and she was given her prize bag (after flushing/washing hands) and

allowed to select her prize. The prize went back into

the bag when she stopped playing with it. Each day we had more successes and

less accidents. After about 2 weeks, we only had an accident every few days (if

we forgot to take her on time). We weren't supposed to ask her if she had to go

potty, just take her. Once she pretty much stopped having accidents, we

increased the time between the trips to the bathroom. After about 1 month, she

actually begain to request on occasion (go potty). It's been just over 3 months

now and the only times she has had an accident was when she was sick or had a

bladder infection. She usually wakes up dry but I keep an overnite on her

during the night. We have actually had to take her on some long car trips of

about 3 hours. We'll put a pull-up on over her underwear but she hasn't had an

accident yet. We do try to stop every hour or so just in case.

Prior to potty-training my daughter never seemed to notice if she was wet or

not. She didn't even seem to notice when she had the accidents in the training

pants. I was sure she would never be trained. It wasn't easy but it was really

worth it. I forgot to mention, we do have laminate floors and ceramic tile

through most of the house. We kept her out of the carpeted rooms and rolled up

all of our area rugs. I kept paper towels, garbage bags and cleaner in every

room. I also bought packages of the Huggies disposable washclothes for quick

sponge baths after her accidents.

Good luck!

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,

Yeah, we tried that too. It worked for pee but not

for poo. At the time I was so happy about having dry

furniture and floors! Now after trying for so many

years I kind of think it might be more than she can

process -- for whatever reason.

Toady she was FINALLY accepted for medicaid services

in Florida. She was on the waiting list for 4 years.

It will cover behavior therapy, so perhaps we can get

some more help with this and other things. And if not,

then we can get some Depends!!!

She's also FINALLY going to get speech and OT outside

of school (where everything has to be related to

educational goals, not necessarily lifeskills).

A really great development this month has been her

almost perfect ability to copy words/numbers/sentences

onto a keyboard. I think this might open up a lot of

communication for her. If so, it would be the greatest

gift we could receive.

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,

Thanks for sharing that. I've heard about how good this method works

quite a few times. Since I read your post I'm really considering

trying it in a few months after school time is over.

Cristy

>

> Hi:

>

> I recently joined the group but haven't had a chance to read e-

mails for the past couple weeks (too many people sick in the

house). I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to this thread.

>

> I live in South Florida and have 4 year old boy/girl twins. My

daughter has autism; my son is NT.

>

> After several half-hearted attempts, we finally succeeded in

potty-training my daughter. We followed a program presented by

Roselione from UM-CARD. The first 3 days were horrible but

the program really does work.

>

> We started by gathering our best reinforcers and making a visual

toilet schedule and prize sheet. Her " prizes " were the best

reinforcers (i.e. favorite toy, book) we could come up with. They

were kept in the bathroom on top of a shelf in a ziploc bag. We

bought several Gerber cloth training pants (about 4 packages!). We

started one morning as soon as she woke up. We put on the training

pants and began taking her to the potty every 30 minutes. We showed

her a potty picture and said " time for potty " to lead her on. We

placed her on the potty and showed her the visual schedule and went

over each step (sit down, go potty, wipe, flush, wash hands,

PRIZE!). We only wiped, flushed and wiped hands after successes.

Most kids love to flush so that can be a motivator for some

children. She could only sit on the potty for 30-90 seconds with no

books or toys. We logged each attempt and accident (time, location,

urine/BM/no). We had about 6 accidents the first day and no

> successes. We used overnites only when she went to bed. The

second day was horrendous. She began to deliberately have an

accident every 15 minutes; usually right before her scheduled trip

to the bathroom. We had 15 accidents that day and I was ready to

scream. I was washing training pants every hour or so. Per ,

you can't show any negative reaction to the accident. Just a

neutral " you're wet, let's go potty " and to the bathroom to sit on

the potty and change clothes. All clothes were kept in the

bathroom. We would do dry checks (you're dry, great job) in

between. The third day we actually had a couple successes and she

went back to her normal schedule of voiding every 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

Once we had her pattern down after about 4 days, we would increase

the time length between trips (every hour, 90 minutes). Successes

were highly praised and she was given her prize bag (after

flushing/washing hands) and allowed to select her prize. The prize

went back into

> the bag when she stopped playing with it. Each day we had more

successes and less accidents. After about 2 weeks, we only had an

accident every few days (if we forgot to take her on time). We

weren't supposed to ask her if she had to go potty, just take her.

Once she pretty much stopped having accidents, we increased the time

between the trips to the bathroom. After about 1 month, she

actually begain to request on occasion (go potty). It's been just

over 3 months now and the only times she has had an accident was

when she was sick or had a bladder infection. She usually wakes up

dry but I keep an overnite on her during the night. We have

actually had to take her on some long car trips of about 3 hours.

We'll put a pull-up on over her underwear but she hasn't had an

accident yet. We do try to stop every hour or so just in case.

>

> Prior to potty-training my daughter never seemed to notice if

she was wet or not. She didn't even seem to notice when she had the

accidents in the training pants. I was sure she would never be

trained. It wasn't easy but it was really worth it. I forgot to

mention, we do have laminate floors and ceramic tile through most of

the house. We kept her out of the carpeted rooms and rolled up all

of our area rugs. I kept paper towels, garbage bags and cleaner in

every room. I also bought packages of the Huggies disposable

washclothes for quick sponge baths after her accidents.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

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Good luck! I hope that it will work for you as well. Pick a week that you're

not TOO stressed out. :-)

Cristy Estep wrote:

,

Thanks for sharing that. I've heard about how good this method works

quite a few times. Since I read your post I'm really considering

trying it in a few months after school time is over.

Cristy

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