Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Channeling Bias May Explain Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial lung disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, a disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing recently, " write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who had been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD use. Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR 1.9). The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among patients with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed leflunomide as any other DMARD " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide appears to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate on the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial lung disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, a disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing recently, " write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who had been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD use. Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR 1.9). The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among patients with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed leflunomide as any other DMARD " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide appears to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate on the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 , No, this does not mean that people on MTX are at HIGH risk for ILD; however, ILD or MTX pneumonitis is a well-described side effect of MTX therapy. Arava (leflunomide) has not been used to treat RA for nearly as long as MTX, so the authors are trying to ascertain the risk of ILD as a side effect of Arava. The risk of ILD is increased in patients with RA who use MTX. The risk of ILD is increased in patients who use Arava. But what are the reasons for the risk and how high is the risk in each case? " Channeling bias " means that there is bias built into the patient sample in question - the patient sample is not random (physicians choose certain DMARDs for certain patients for various reasons). In this case, the authors are guessing that, for example, patients with pre-existing lung disease (who are at higher risk of developing drug-induced ILD) were given Arava instead of MTX because the risk of MTX-induced ILD is well-known. The physicians were doing the right thing in avoiding MTX in those cases, but some learned is that Arava carries an ILD risk, too; however, Arava might have looked worse statistically than it actually is. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease > , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does > this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? > To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you > can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs > > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain > Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial > lung > disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) > treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue > of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of > channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. > > " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, > a > disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing > recently, " > write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who > had > been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of > serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to > estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD > use. > > Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which > corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of > leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR > 1.9). > > The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among > patients > with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk > was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a > history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed > leflunomide as any other DMARD > > " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide > appears > to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may > have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate > on > the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was > associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. > > They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no > existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. > > Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 But what is the ratio of people developing ILD without MTX or Arava? I have ILD but have never used MTX or Arava, but my rheumy is talking about starting it this month. I usually end up with pneumonia once or twice a year as it is, the thought of this happening more often scare me. I do take Humeri, Predisone,lexapro and Ultraset for RA. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: , No, this does not mean that people on MTX are at HIGH risk for ILD; however, ILD or MTX pneumonitis is a well-described side effect of MTX therapy. Arava (leflunomide) has not been used to treat RA for nearly as long as MTX, so the authors are trying to ascertain the risk of ILD as a side effect of Arava. The risk of ILD is increased in patients with RA who use MTX. The risk of ILD is increased in patients who use Arava. But what are the reasons for the risk and how high is the risk in each case? " Channeling bias " means that there is bias built into the patient sample in question - the patient sample is not random (physicians choose certain DMARDs for certain patients for various reasons). In this case, the authors are guessing that, for example, patients with pre-existing lung disease (who are at higher risk of developing drug-induced ILD) were given Arava instead of MTX because the risk of MTX-induced ILD is well-known. The physicians were doing the right thing in avoiding MTX in those cases, but some learned is that Arava carries an ILD risk, too; however, Arava might have looked worse statistically than it actually is. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease > , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does > this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? > To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you > can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs > > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain > Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial > lung > disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) > treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue > of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of > channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. > > " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, > a > disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing > recently, " > write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who > had > been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of > serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to > estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD > use. > > Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which > corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of > leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR > 1.9). > > The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among > patients > with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk > was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a > history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed > leflunomide as any other DMARD > > " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide > appears > to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may > have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate > on > the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was > associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. > > They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no > existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. > > Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 , Pulmonary involvement is very common in RA. It's difficult to give you hard numbers because many RA patients who have lung involvement are asymptomatic or undiagnosed. There are also many different types of lung disease associated with RA. Here's an article that will give you a fairly good idea: Allergy June 2005 " The respiratory system in connective tissue disorders " : http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2005.00761.x Prednisone is a significant risk factor for the development of pneumonia: Arthritis and Rheumatism February 2006 " Treatment for RA and the risk for hospitalization with pneumonia " : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16447241 Of course, smoking is also a huge risk factor for the development of lung disease. Do you smoke? I would print some of the articles I've posted on the subject and bring them to your physician for discussion before you decide to begin either MTX or Arava. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease > , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does > this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? > To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you > can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs > > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain > Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial > lung > disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) > treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue > of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of > channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. > > " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, > a > disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing > recently, " > write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who > had > been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of > serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to > estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD > use. > > Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which > corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of > leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR > 1.9). > > The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among > patients > with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk > was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a > history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed > leflunomide as any other DMARD > > " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide > appears > to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may > have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate > on > the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was > associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. > > They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no > existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. > > Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Thanks No I don't smoke , never have. I am taking predisone right now because of trouble with my hands and i cannot take any nsaids. But the lung specialist I see wants me to take it for ILD. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: , Pulmonary involvement is very common in RA. It's difficult to give you hard numbers because many RA patients who have lung involvement are asymptomatic or undiagnosed. There are also many different types of lung disease associated with RA. Here's an article that will give you a fairly good idea: Allergy June 2005 " The respiratory system in connective tissue disorders " : http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2005.00761.x Prednisone is a significant risk factor for the development of pneumonia: Arthritis and Rheumatism February 2006 " Treatment for RA and the risk for hospitalization with pneumonia " : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16447241 Of course, smoking is also a huge risk factor for the development of lung disease. Do you smoke? I would print some of the articles I've posted on the subject and bring them to your physician for discussion before you decide to begin either MTX or Arava. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease > , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does > this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? > To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you > can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs > > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain > Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial > lung > disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) > treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue > of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of > channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. > > " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, > a > disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing > recently, " > write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who > had > been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of > serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to > estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD > use. > > Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which > corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of > leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR > 1.9). > > The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among > patients > with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk > was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a > history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed > leflunomide as any other DMARD > > " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide > appears > to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may > have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate > on > the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was > associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. > > They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no > existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. > > Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 , why don't you ask your pulmonologist for his input about MTX and Arava? Or perhaps your rheumatologist will consult with your pulmonologist? Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease Thanks No I don't smoke , never have. I am taking predisone right now because of trouble with my hands and i cannot take any nsaids. But the lung specialist I see wants me to take it for ILD. in WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I see the rheumy in two weeks I wank to talk to her about something to help with stiffness besides predinisone, which I take right now. I have RA and OA and am unable to take non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. I was doing so well pain wise with mobic, but it caused kidney failure, as did vioxx, so we are pretty sure this is not a freak thing. Any suggestions to talk to my Doctor about? in WI susan smith <bizzare48@...> wrote: Thanks No I don't smoke , never have. I am taking predisone right now because of trouble with my hands and i cannot take any nsaids. But the lung specialist I see wants me to take it for ILD. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: , Pulmonary involvement is very common in RA. It's difficult to give you hard numbers because many RA patients who have lung involvement are asymptomatic or undiagnosed. There are also many different types of lung disease associated with RA. Here's an article that will give you a fairly good idea: Allergy June 2005 " The respiratory system in connective tissue disorders " : http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2005.00761.x Prednisone is a significant risk factor for the development of pneumonia: Arthritis and Rheumatism February 2006 " Treatment for RA and the risk for hospitalization with pneumonia " : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16447241 Of course, smoking is also a huge risk factor for the development of lung disease. Do you smoke? I would print some of the articles I've posted on the subject and bring them to your physician for discussion before you decide to begin either MTX or Arava. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease > , thank you for this article very informative. Question????? Does > this article infer that those of us who use MTX have a high risk for ILD? > To me the 2nd to last paragraph indicates so...Please clarify if you > can....Thanks for all that you do for us, greatly appreciated....Hugs > > > <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: Channeling Bias May Explain > Leflunomide Link to Interstitial Lung Disease > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 30 - The risk of developing interstitial > lung > disease (ILD) is increased among patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) > treated with leflunomide, according to findings published in the May issue > of Arthritis and Rheumatism. However, the association may be the result of > channeling of high-risk patients to leflunomide. > > " Spontaneous reports of ILD in patients with RA treated with leflunomide, > a > disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD), have been appearing > recently, " > write Dr. Samy Suissa and colleagues from McGill University Health Center, > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > To investigate, the researchers examined data on 62,734 RA patients who > had > been treated with a DMARD. In a nested case-control design, each case of > serious ILD requiring hospitalization was matched to 100 controls to > estimate adjusted rate ratios (RRs) of serious ILD associated with DMARD > use. > > Seventy-four patients were hospitalized because of serious ILD, which > corresponded to a rate of 8.1 per 10,000 patients per year. The use of > leflunomide was associated with an increased risk of ILD (adjusted RR > 1.9). > > The risk of ILD associated with leflunomide was not increased among > patients > with no previous methotrexate use and no history of ILD (RR 1.2). The risk > was elevated among the remaining subjects (RR 2.6). Patients who had a > history of ILD were nearly twice as likely to have been prescribed > leflunomide as any other DMARD > > " The increased risk of ILD in the patients treated with leflunomide > appears > to be due to a channeling bias, where patients with a history of ILD may > have been preferentially prescribed leflunomide rather than methotrexate > on > the assumption that, in contrast to methotrexate, no lung toxicity was > associated with leflunomide, " Dr. Suissa's team explains. > > They conclude that for patients with no history of methotrexate use and no > existing ILD, leflunomide confers no excess risk of ILD. > > Arthritis Rheum 2006;54:1435-1439. > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533435 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 You're in a tough spot, . Maybe your doctors will think it's safe to add MTX or Arava, and that will help you with the pain and stiffness. Or a different DMARD could be added. Are you taking Humira once a week or once every two weeks? Increasing it to once a week is a possibility if you aren't already doing that. I would write down all of your concerns and symptoms and ask your rheumatologist what you've asked here. There are other options. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease I see the rheumy in two weeks I wank to talk to her about something to help with stiffness besides predinisone, which I take right now. I have RA and OA and am unable to take non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. I was doing so well pain wise with mobic, but it caused kidney failure, as did vioxx, so we are pretty sure this is not a freak thing. Any suggestions to talk to my Doctor about? in WI susan smith <bizzare48@...> wrote: Thanks No I don't smoke , never have. I am taking predisone right now because of trouble with my hands and i cannot take any nsaids. But the lung specialist I see wants me to take it for ILD. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: , Pulmonary involvement is very common in RA. It's difficult to give you hard numbers because many RA patients who have lung involvement are asymptomatic or undiagnosed. There are also many different types of lung disease associated with RA. Here's an article that will give you a fairly good idea: Allergy June 2005 " The respiratory system in connective tissue disorders " : http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2005.00761.x Prednisone is a significant risk factor for the development of pneumonia: Arthritis and Rheumatism February 2006 " Treatment for RA and the risk for hospitalization with pneumonia " : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16447241 Of course, smoking is also a huge risk factor for the development of lung disease. Do you smoke? I would print some of the articles I've posted on the subject and bring them to your physician for discussion before you decide to begin either MTX or Arava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Thanks I do take humeri every week now, and am having break through symptoms, especially in my hands. Last time I saw the rheumy we talked about adding MTX. She is afraid my medication is not strong enough and is concerned about the RA in my lungs, me I am just tired of the OA and RA pain!!!! The prednisone has helped so much but I know i can't keep taking such a high dose 22mg for long, it was just a stop gap procedure to make me more comfortable until my next appt. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: You're in a tough spot, . Maybe your doctors will think it's safe to add MTX or Arava, and that will help you with the pain and stiffness. Or a different DMARD could be added. Are you taking Humira once a week or once every two weeks? Increasing it to once a week is a possibility if you aren't already doing that. I would write down all of your concerns and symptoms and ask your rheumatologist what you've asked here. There are other options. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Re: [ ] NEWS - Channeling bias may explain Arava link to interstitial lung disease I see the rheumy in two weeks I wank to talk to her about something to help with stiffness besides predinisone, which I take right now. I have RA and OA and am unable to take non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. I was doing so well pain wise with mobic, but it caused kidney failure, as did vioxx, so we are pretty sure this is not a freak thing. Any suggestions to talk to my Doctor about? in WI susan smith <bizzare48@...> wrote: Thanks No I don't smoke , never have. I am taking predisone right now because of trouble with my hands and i cannot take any nsaids. But the lung specialist I see wants me to take it for ILD. in WI <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote: , Pulmonary involvement is very common in RA. It's difficult to give you hard numbers because many RA patients who have lung involvement are asymptomatic or undiagnosed. There are also many different types of lung disease associated with RA. Here's an article that will give you a fairly good idea: Allergy June 2005 " The respiratory system in connective tissue disorders " : http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2005.00761.x Prednisone is a significant risk factor for the development of pneumonia: Arthritis and Rheumatism February 2006 " Treatment for RA and the risk for hospitalization with pneumonia " : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16447241 Of course, smoking is also a huge risk factor for the development of lung disease. Do you smoke? I would print some of the articles I've posted on the subject and bring them to your physician for discussion before you decide to begin either MTX or Arava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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