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In a message dated 9/14/2000 9:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ilvamzn@... writes:

<< as you all know I have been going through some really crappy fammily

issues

(Divorce is in the making) well tonight my husband really made me feel like

I can not accomplish anything. I still love him but he constantly makes me

feel worthless. He works hard and gets tired just like a normal person and

he comes home yelling and screaming because our 1 and 3 year olds are too

loud. and who does he get mad at........ME he has flat out told me on

numerous occasions that if I ever take the kids away from him he'd kill me

and I am really starting to beleive it. luckily I have a few friends that

have heard him tell me this so legallyl i think the ball is in my court. I

don'dt know he just makes me feel like I can't make it on my own and there

is

nothing more than that I would LOVE to provce him wrong.

thanks for letting me VENT.......... >>

, vent here any time. I agree with everyone. You don't deserve or need

to be treated like that. It can't be good for the kids either (or for your

back!). You talked earlier about moving back with your parents for awhile

and starting over. Is that still an option? Of course I have a personal

interest, since you would then be living closer to me. Remember that you can

love someone but that doesn't mean that you are meant to spend your lives

together. Love is easy for many of us; it's life that difficult. You need

and deserve someone you can love and live peacefully with.

Elena

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In a message dated 09/15/2000 9:05:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Etcarroll2@... writes:

> Remember that you can

> love someone but that doesn't mean that you are meant to spend your lives

> together. Love is easy for many of us; it's life that difficult. You

need

> and deserve someone you can love and live peacefully with.

this is so true!!!

and exactly why I left my first husband

how a person treats you is the most important part of a relationship

Barb

who would have stayed with hubby #1 if he had continued to treat me as he had

when we were dating

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In a message dated 9/15/00 8:05:18 AM Central Daylight Time,

Etcarroll2@... writes:

<< interest, since you would then be living closer to me. Remember that you

can

love someone but that doesn't mean that you are meant to spend your lives

together. Love is easy for many of us; it's life that difficult. You need

and deserve someone you can love and live peacefully with.

Elena >>

You know I agree with this, If I had that much stress at home I think it

would be hard for me to be commited to anything, and that cant be good for

the children, kids= noise belive me I know, I have 3 and both dh and I work,

Not to toot my own horn but if dh ever told me that the kids were to loud I

think I would tell him why dont you go play with them or take them someone so

they wont be so loud, please dont get into the mode cuz he works all day I

have to cater to him when he gets home, both dh and I work but when I didnt

he knew how hard it was to stay with the kids all day and then to take care

of all of them when he got home, yes its good to give him some peace after a

hard day work but sometimes they go over board, That sounds good to go stay

with your family and take a court order with you hun..

Doris

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elena

Moving to alexandria is still an option but I am trying not too. I finally

went FT at work and Hannah just started school in august. so I really don't

want to have to uproot the kids if I don't have to. but if I do there would

be no question. in fact I would rather the kids go to school in Fairfax

County any way. Did you knkow that Ffx Co public school is rated in the top

5 percent in the NATION!!!!!!!!

D

(ilvamzn)

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> , vent here any time. I agree with everyone. You don't

deserve or need

> to be treated like that. It can't be good for the kids either (or

for your

> back!). You talked earlier about moving back with your parents for

awhile

> and starting over. Is that still an option? Of course I have a

personal

> interest, since you would then be living closer to me. Remember

that you can

> love someone but that doesn't mean that you are meant to spend your

lives

> together. Love is easy for many of us; it's life that difficult.

You need

> and deserve someone you can love and live peacefully with.

>

> Elena

Well said Elena....

Peace and Love to all

Amybeth-who thinks should move down to VA and get well before

dealing with life altering decisions :)

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In a message dated 9/15/00 9:05:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Etcarroll2@... writes:

<< he comes home yelling and screaming because our 1 and 3 year olds are too

loud. >>

<< told me on numerous occasions that if I ever take the kids away from him

he'd kill me >>

seems to me that he doesn't REALLY know what he wants.

i've been thru a divorce after a marriage of 26 years to whom i THOUGHT was

my best friend. we'd known each other since we were 15 & 17.

i, too, was a SAHM - and was slowly dying in that house with that man and

those children. he was the 'toy', i was the 'disciplinarinan'. with whom do

you think the kids wld side.

i will second and support all the other advise you have received. on a more

concrete level .... do you have YOUR OWN checking account? credit card

account? if not ... GET ONE . establish YOUR OWN CREDIT. how?

you get a credit card, charge something small and pay it off immediately.

you WILL be fine ... it might take work, but stay focused. stay here with

these WONDERFUL women ...

natalie in pa

loonsng@...

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