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I set up a camera and saw one of our workers steal $$ from a cabinet I keep it

in in the kitchen. We confronted her with the video and fired her immediately. I

also felt sick to my stomach over it. We have had help for over 15 years and

this was the only time I ever suspected anything or used a camera.

Brigid

Playing catch-up/PCA story

This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack

of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few

days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical

storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last

Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered

down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose

power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break.

They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body

temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making

special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my

stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal

bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's

up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for

jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for

some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings

when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her

but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True

she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her

and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She

didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past

2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair,

give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours

straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make

it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At

one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our

trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around

and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before

she knew I was coming out of the bedroom.

The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had

brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she

lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file

folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a

couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the

fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was

looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is

nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad.

dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her

yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on

and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for

tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today

(under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4

days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able

to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up

again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear

idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil

and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her

I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my

own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church

often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of

MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me.

She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours

etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost

this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just

delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!!

wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00

report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

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Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible

that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother

of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and

adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was

awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust

someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my

daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life

itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are

mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose.

Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating

yourself up for needing and trusting someone.

Hugs,

brigid sullivan wrote:

I set up a camera and saw one of our workers steal $$ from a cabinet I

keep it in in the kitchen. We confronted her with the video and fired her

immediately. I also felt sick to my stomach over it. We have had help for over

15 years and this was the only time I ever suspected anything or used a camera.

Brigid

Playing catch-up/PCA story

This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack

of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days

while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm

but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct

there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down "

as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose

power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break.

They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body

temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making

special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my

stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal

bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's

up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie

and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some

reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I

am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what

I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she

didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and

didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't

do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2

years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair,

give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours

straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make

it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At

one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed

her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in

reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask

her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the

bedroom.

The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had

brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she

lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file

folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a

couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the

fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was

looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is

nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad.

dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her

yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on

and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for

tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today

(under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4

days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able

to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up

again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear

idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil

and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her

I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I

care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a

super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little

lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse

anyway? someone help me.

She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc.

Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this

story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete.

What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!!

wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00

report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

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Sherry!!!!!!!

I am so mortified at what you found out! You have every right to feel sick!

This person totally betrayed you. Is she crying because she is possible losing

her income, or her job, or because she truly feels bad. So much of what you saw

seemed staged as far as the toys, and not doing the folder games, etc. And the

lies! Oh my gosh! I am just sick for you. I sure wish I was closer and could

help. Prayers for you and that you will find the right answer!

good Luck with the storm!

Holly in PA

Playing catch-up/PCA story

This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack

of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few

days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical

storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last

Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered

down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose

power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break.

They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body

temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making

special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my

stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal

bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's

up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for

jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for

some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings

when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her

but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True

she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her

and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She

didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past

2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair,

give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours

straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make

it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At

one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our

trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around

and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before

she knew I was coming out of the bedroom.

The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had

brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she

lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file

folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a

couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the

fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was

looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is

nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad.

dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her

yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on

and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for

tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today

(under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4

days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able

to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up

again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear

idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil

and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her

I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my

own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church

often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of

MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me.

She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours

etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost

this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just

delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!!

wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00

report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

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Everyone always says to go with your gut! Looks like you did!

Holly

Playing catch-up/PCA story

This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack

of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few

days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical

storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last

Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered

down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose

power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break.

They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body

temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making

special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my

stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal

bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's

up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for

jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for

some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings

when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her

but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True

she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her

and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She

didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past

2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair,

give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours

straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make

it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At

one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our

trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around

and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before

she knew I was coming out of the bedroom.

The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had

brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she

lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file

folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a

couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the

fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was

looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is

nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad.

dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her

yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on

and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for

tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today

(under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4

days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able

to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up

again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear

idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil

and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her

I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my

own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church

often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of

MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me.

She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours

etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost

this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just

delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!!

wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00

report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

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oh my god....that truly IS horrible...i am shocked. and i can imagine

how you are feeling....but you should not feel stupid. you tracked her

on camra, and thats very good. i hope you can find a new pca for

jamie...if you can ever trust people again. maybe you should use

cameras and place them so everyone can see them.

>

> This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so

due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

>

>

> Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home

for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon

us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their

roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles

all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane

terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We

actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve

a break.

> They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

>

> I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control

her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous.

We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory!

Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2

trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an

endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary

labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

>

> We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been

caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of

our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to

watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always

been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4

hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't

actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her

and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her

once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing

everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe

after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on

her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV.

THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she

had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point

jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our

trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged,

ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim

is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom.

>

> The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if

she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with

her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even

mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could

have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go

anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I

can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I

felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking

down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored

because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not

going on. It was so sad.

>

> dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we

confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging

for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so

sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was

coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and

make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over

labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll

never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously

doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but

she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't

feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so

much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells

all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't

give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with

my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian

going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on

how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse

anyway? someone help me.

>

> She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free

hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll

probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you

on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel

like such a FOOL!!!

> wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

>

> I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care

everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

> Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

>

>

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Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say that I know

what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's best caregiver for sure.

This was a two day observation though so it wasn't just a one day thing and that

facility of lying so quickly and convincingly just made me sick. I would have

been fine with her telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to

rest alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all know

what that's like.

It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of attention or

concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come running out and ask her

what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to see how she would respond to direct

questions. It's not like she spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's

only 4 hours max, and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a

few previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found she had

been on the computer (for a looong time) after I specifically asked her not to

be...or to ask me first. And alot of guilty looks when we showed up early. It

was just a gut feeling.

And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she clearly showed a

total lack of compassion or even " liking " . One morning I came running out

because I thought someone was beating down the door or our roof and found it was

jamie slamming her arm onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her arm

this way) and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil totally

oblivious to the extremely loud pounding.

She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many many hours

teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her to be a therapist, just

to keep her safe and if she has time to play with her or engage her just a

little bit, maybe just stop by her room and say " hi " ? or look in on her??

Believe me my denial and excuse making for her kicked in right away as this

would be so difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have

made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the bedroom....it's easy to

start forgetting right away how horrible it truly was and for me to say " oh

maybe I just exaggerated and it's all in my head " I have to fight not to do

that.

You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to be very lucky

here I believe!

Sherry

<<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible

that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother

of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and

adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was

awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust

someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my

daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life

itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are

mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose.

Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating

yourself up for needing and trusting someone.

Hugs,

>>

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As the old saying goes she IS sorry....SORRY SHE GOT CAUGHT!. You and your

daughter are lucky you saw this now before something really bad happened under

her " watch "

Brigid

Re: Playing catch-up/PCA story

Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say that I know

what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's best caregiver for sure.

This was a two day observation though so it wasn't just a one day thing and that

facility of lying so quickly and convincingly just made me sick. I would have

been fine with her telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to

rest alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all know

what that's like.

It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of attention or

concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come running out and ask her

what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to see how she would respond to direct

questions. It's not like she spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's

only 4 hours max, and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a

few previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found she had

been on the computer (for a looong time) after I specifically asked her not to

be...or to ask me first. And alot of guilty looks when we showed up early. It

was just a gut feeling.

And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she clearly showed

a total lack of compassion or even " liking " . One morning I came running

out because I thought someone was beating down the door or our roof and found it

was jamie slamming her arm onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her

arm this way) and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil

totally oblivious to the extremely loud pounding.

She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many many hours

teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her to be a therapist, just

to keep her safe and if she has time to play with her or engage her just a

little bit, maybe just stop by her room and say " hi " ? or look in on her??

Believe me my denial and excuse making for her kicked in right away as this

would be so difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have

made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the bedroom....it's easy to

start forgetting right away how horrible it truly was and for me to say " oh

maybe I just exaggerated and it's all in my head " I have to fight not to do

that.

You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to be very

lucky here I believe!

Sherry

<<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible

that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother

of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and

adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was

awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust

someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my

daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life

itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are

mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose.

Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating

yourself up for needing and trusting someone.

Hugs,

>>

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Hi Sherry,

I'm sorry you had trouble with help but now you know, better late than never.

I would get rid of her immediately. I am glad the storm missed you. I am also

watching it with predictions of coming up the coast, of course, prediction of a

rainy weekend and I am going to another fair. I will dress for rain again and

bring a good book, no business.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

gldcst wrote:

This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due

to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story.

Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days

while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm

but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct

there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down "

as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose

power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break.

They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body

temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making

special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my

stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal

bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's

up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie

and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some

reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I

am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what

I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she

didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and

didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't

do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2

years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair,

give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours

straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make

it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At

one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed

her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in

reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask

her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the

bedroom.

The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had

brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she

lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file

folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a

couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the

fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was

looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be

treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is

nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad.

dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her

yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on

and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for

tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today

(under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4

days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do.

There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able

to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up

again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear

idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil

and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her

I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I

care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a

super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little

lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse

anyway? someone help me.

She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc.

Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this

story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete.

What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!!

wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00

report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

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Hi Sherry:

I don't think we have communicated before but I wanted to let you

know how much your story affected me. It must have been horrible.

I don't know you, and I don't know the girl but I agree with Brigid -

she is sorry she got caught. I have a tendency to rationalize why

people do things too - so don't let your initial outrage wear out!

She is taking advantage of the situation and trying to cover up her

tracks.

And don't beat yourself up either! As Maya Angelou says (I'm

paraphrasing here), " We did the best we could with what we knew, and

when we knew better, we did better " . I have to remind myself of

that all time! Anytime I figure out something I should be doing

with Liam, I kick myself that I didn't think of it three years

earlier.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. And we all know what two cents is worth

nowadays! Not a plum nickel! Good luck with everything,

Mom to Liam (DS/PDD, 10) and Jack, 5

>

> Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say

that I know what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's

best caregiver for sure. This was a two day observation though so it

wasn't just a one day thing and that facility of lying so quickly

and convincingly just made me sick. I would have been fine with her

telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to rest

alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all

know what that's like.

>

> It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of

attention or concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come

running out and ask her what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to

see how she would respond to direct questions. It's not like she

spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's only 4 hours max,

and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a few

previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found

she had been on the computer (for a looong time) after I

specifically asked her not to be...or to ask me first. And alot of

guilty looks when we showed up early. It was just a gut feeling.

> And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she

clearly showed a total lack of compassion or even " liking " .

One morning I came running out because I thought someone was beating

down the door or our roof and found it was jamie slamming her arm

onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her arm this way)

and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil totally

oblivious to the extremely loud pounding.

>

> She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many

many hours teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her

to be a therapist, just to keep her safe and if she has time to play

with her or engage her just a little bit, maybe just stop by her

room and say " hi " ? or look in on her?? Believe me my denial and

excuse making for her kicked in right away as this would be so

difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have

made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the

bedroom....it's easy to start forgetting right away how horrible it

truly was and for me to say " oh maybe I just exaggerated and it's

all in my head " I have to fight not to do that.

>

> You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to

be very lucky here I believe!

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

> <<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it

is possible that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are

like that. As a mother of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a

daycare provider to children and adults with disabilities of varying

degrees, I can tell you that some days I was awesome, and some days

I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust someone, and

it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my

daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more

than life itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good

at it. There are mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget

the prescription dose. Anyway, of course you're justified in your

reaction, and I hope you stop beating yourself up for needing and

trusting someone.

> Hugs,

> >>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/1/2006 1:03:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

henniganp@... writes:

We did the best we could with what we knew, and

when we knew better, we did better " .

OH . I never heard that quote. I love it. And I'll remember

it.

Thanks,

Donna

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I have been working very hard this year. Our new students are quit a

handful. Make that 6 hands full. We have an extra person this year

due to the challenges. The children are wonderful though. This year

I have down syndrome, autism, a combination of both, and other

disabilities.They are all kindergarten as well. The year is off to a

good start. At least I think it is.

Anyway,I finally have time to be on the computer and read this post.

This is terrible. She has no business working for you. It made me

sad to read it.

-- In , " gldcst " wrote:

>

> This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so

due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA

story.

>

>

> Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home

for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon

us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had

their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose

tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane

terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We

actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her

beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?)

deserve a break.

> They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite.

>

> I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't

control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very

dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what

a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone

the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and

am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the

weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy.

>

> We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been

caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of

our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to

watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always

been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4

hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't

actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored

her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at

her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was

doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help

her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't

even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight

and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to

make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed

to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on

her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in

reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which

I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was

coming out of the bedroom.

>

> The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if

she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with

her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even

mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could

have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't

go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now

know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm

watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like

I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how

she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved

and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is

or is not going on. It was so sad.

>

> dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we

confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging

for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so

sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was

coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and

make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over

labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to

do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and

I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I

seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on

camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels

or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried

and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask

anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie.

I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care

about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to

be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave

her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children

etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me.

>

> She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta

free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll

probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of

you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I

feel like such a FOOL!!!

> wah wah wah same old stuff from me.

>

> I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care

everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!!

> Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid.

>

>

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