Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 I set up a camera and saw one of our workers steal $$ from a cabinet I keep it in in the kitchen. We confronted her with the video and fired her immediately. I also felt sick to my stomach over it. We have had help for over 15 years and this was the only time I ever suspected anything or used a camera. Brigid Playing catch-up/PCA story This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! wah wah wah same old stuff from me. I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose. Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating yourself up for needing and trusting someone. Hugs, brigid sullivan wrote: I set up a camera and saw one of our workers steal $$ from a cabinet I keep it in in the kitchen. We confronted her with the video and fired her immediately. I also felt sick to my stomach over it. We have had help for over 15 years and this was the only time I ever suspected anything or used a camera. Brigid Playing catch-up/PCA story This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! wah wah wah same old stuff from me. I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Sherry!!!!!!! I am so mortified at what you found out! You have every right to feel sick! This person totally betrayed you. Is she crying because she is possible losing her income, or her job, or because she truly feels bad. So much of what you saw seemed staged as far as the toys, and not doing the folder games, etc. And the lies! Oh my gosh! I am just sick for you. I sure wish I was closer and could help. Prayers for you and that you will find the right answer! good Luck with the storm! Holly in PA Playing catch-up/PCA story This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! wah wah wah same old stuff from me. I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Everyone always says to go with your gut! Looks like you did! Holly Playing catch-up/PCA story This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! wah wah wah same old stuff from me. I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 oh my god....that truly IS horrible...i am shocked. and i can imagine how you are feeling....but you should not feel stupid. you tracked her on camra, and thats very good. i hope you can find a new pca for jamie...if you can ever trust people again. maybe you should use cameras and place them so everyone can see them. > > This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. > > > Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. > They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. > > I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. > > We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. > > The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. > > dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. > > She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! > wah wah wah same old stuff from me. > > I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! > Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say that I know what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's best caregiver for sure. This was a two day observation though so it wasn't just a one day thing and that facility of lying so quickly and convincingly just made me sick. I would have been fine with her telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to rest alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all know what that's like. It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of attention or concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come running out and ask her what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to see how she would respond to direct questions. It's not like she spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's only 4 hours max, and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a few previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found she had been on the computer (for a looong time) after I specifically asked her not to be...or to ask me first. And alot of guilty looks when we showed up early. It was just a gut feeling. And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she clearly showed a total lack of compassion or even " liking " . One morning I came running out because I thought someone was beating down the door or our roof and found it was jamie slamming her arm onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her arm this way) and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil totally oblivious to the extremely loud pounding. She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many many hours teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her to be a therapist, just to keep her safe and if she has time to play with her or engage her just a little bit, maybe just stop by her room and say " hi " ? or look in on her?? Believe me my denial and excuse making for her kicked in right away as this would be so difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the bedroom....it's easy to start forgetting right away how horrible it truly was and for me to say " oh maybe I just exaggerated and it's all in my head " I have to fight not to do that. You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to be very lucky here I believe! Sherry <<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose. Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating yourself up for needing and trusting someone. Hugs, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 As the old saying goes she IS sorry....SORRY SHE GOT CAUGHT!. You and your daughter are lucky you saw this now before something really bad happened under her " watch " Brigid Re: Playing catch-up/PCA story Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say that I know what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's best caregiver for sure. This was a two day observation though so it wasn't just a one day thing and that facility of lying so quickly and convincingly just made me sick. I would have been fine with her telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to rest alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all know what that's like. It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of attention or concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come running out and ask her what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to see how she would respond to direct questions. It's not like she spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's only 4 hours max, and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a few previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found she had been on the computer (for a looong time) after I specifically asked her not to be...or to ask me first. And alot of guilty looks when we showed up early. It was just a gut feeling. And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she clearly showed a total lack of compassion or even " liking " . One morning I came running out because I thought someone was beating down the door or our roof and found it was jamie slamming her arm onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her arm this way) and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil totally oblivious to the extremely loud pounding. She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many many hours teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her to be a therapist, just to keep her safe and if she has time to play with her or engage her just a little bit, maybe just stop by her room and say " hi " ? or look in on her?? Believe me my denial and excuse making for her kicked in right away as this would be so difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the bedroom....it's easy to start forgetting right away how horrible it truly was and for me to say " oh maybe I just exaggerated and it's all in my head " I have to fight not to do that. You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to be very lucky here I believe! Sherry <<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose. Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating yourself up for needing and trusting someone. Hugs, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Hi Sherry, I'm sorry you had trouble with help but now you know, better late than never. I would get rid of her immediately. I am glad the storm missed you. I am also watching it with predictions of coming up the coast, of course, prediction of a rainy weekend and I am going to another fair. I will dress for rain again and bring a good book, no business. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD? gldcst wrote: This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! wah wah wah same old stuff from me. I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hi Sherry: I don't think we have communicated before but I wanted to let you know how much your story affected me. It must have been horrible. I don't know you, and I don't know the girl but I agree with Brigid - she is sorry she got caught. I have a tendency to rationalize why people do things too - so don't let your initial outrage wear out! She is taking advantage of the situation and trying to cover up her tracks. And don't beat yourself up either! As Maya Angelou says (I'm paraphrasing here), " We did the best we could with what we knew, and when we knew better, we did better " . I have to remind myself of that all time! Anytime I figure out something I should be doing with Liam, I kick myself that I didn't think of it three years earlier. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. And we all know what two cents is worth nowadays! Not a plum nickel! Good luck with everything, Mom to Liam (DS/PDD, 10) and Jack, 5 > > Thanks for the responses everyone... I just wanted to say that I know what you mean; I too have on many days not been 's best caregiver for sure. This was a two day observation though so it wasn't just a one day thing and that facility of lying so quickly and convincingly just made me sick. I would have been fine with her telling me " I was just really exhausted today and needed to rest alot " . Who couldn't understand that? Or even for both days. We all know what that's like. > > It was really just the meanspirited attitude and total lack of attention or concern for jamie. It was all I could do to not come running out and ask her what the heck she was doing. But I wanted to see how she would respond to direct questions. It's not like she spends all day working here ....or anywhere. it's only 4 hours max, and often alot less but still paid for it. There had been a few previous incidents when I was certain she was lying to me....I found she had been on the computer (for a looong time) after I specifically asked her not to be...or to ask me first. And alot of guilty looks when we showed up early. It was just a gut feeling. > And whether or not she was just having a bad couple of days she clearly showed a total lack of compassion or even " liking " . One morning I came running out because I thought someone was beating down the door or our roof and found it was jamie slamming her arm onto her desk (we have a friend whose dtr broke her arm this way) and our PCA was on the phone talking to her mother in Brazil totally oblivious to the extremely loud pounding. > > She is very very young for her age and I have invested so many many hours teaching her how to " be " with jamie, I don't expect her to be a therapist, just to keep her safe and if she has time to play with her or engage her just a little bit, maybe just stop by her room and say " hi " ? or look in on her?? Believe me my denial and excuse making for her kicked in right away as this would be so difficult to resolve and to find someone else. I wish I could have made a tape but the camera just goes to the TV in the bedroom....it's easy to start forgetting right away how horrible it truly was and for me to say " oh maybe I just exaggerated and it's all in my head " I have to fight not to do that. > > You know we haven't even had a drop of rain yet?? We are going to be very lucky here I believe! > Sherry > > > > > <<Oh, dear. I'm so sorry for how bad you're feeling. You know, it is possible that this woman was just having a bad day. Some days are like that. As a mother of a 6 year old with DS and until recently a daycare provider to children and adults with disabilities of varying degrees, I can tell you that some days I was awesome, and some days I was tired and boring. You're never a fool to trust someone, and it's possible that this one example was not typical. Even as my daughter's mom, the one who loves her more than anyone else, more than life itself, sometimes I am not up to what it takes to be good at it. There are mornings we skip the toothbrush fight, or I forget the prescription dose. Anyway, of course you're justified in your reaction, and I hope you stop beating yourself up for needing and trusting someone. > Hugs, > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 In a message dated 9/1/2006 1:03:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, henniganp@... writes: We did the best we could with what we knew, and when we knew better, we did better " . OH . I never heard that quote. I love it. And I'll remember it. Thanks, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I have been working very hard this year. Our new students are quit a handful. Make that 6 hands full. We have an extra person this year due to the challenges. The children are wonderful though. This year I have down syndrome, autism, a combination of both, and other disabilities.They are all kindergarten as well. The year is off to a good start. At least I think it is. Anyway,I finally have time to be on the computer and read this post. This is terrible. She has no business working for you. It made me sad to read it. -- In , " gldcst " wrote: > > This is a copy of the email I just sent to my Fibromyalgia list so due to lack of energy I'm crossposting it here to share our PCA story. > > > Sorry to have disappeared. dh has been gone all summer; he's home for a few days while we go thru Ernesto, currently bearing down upon us. Still a tropical storm but so many 100's of people never had their roofs fixed from Wilma last Oct there are blue tarps and loose tiles all over the place. We are " hunkered down " as the hurricane terminology goes and we'll probably (boy I hope not) lose power. We actually thought the other day this was gonna head straight for her beseiged neck of the woods but I guess those Louisianians (?) deserve a break. > They're expecting the worst between 8 and midnight tonite. > > I worry mostly about losing AC and TV for . can't control her body temp and doesn't ever sweat which can be very dangerous. We've been making special foods for her for 2 days...what a factory! Meanwhile I reinjured my stupid back while Jim was gone the last 2 trips, I've got some weird vaginal bleeding going on and am due for an endo appt. next month to figure out what's up with the weird pituitary labs. 's well, tho....happy and healthy. > > We had a horrible experience this week with our PCA who's been caring for jamie and helping us for 2 years. She's been like part of our family but for some reason I had the idea to put a camera up to watch her during the mornings when I am sleeping in. She has always been wonderful while someone is with her but what I watched for 4 hours on the TV screen made me sick to my stomach. True she didn't actually hurt physically but she totally absolutely ignored her and didn't respond to any of her requests- didn't even look at her once!! She didn't do any of the daily things we thought she was doing everyday for the past 2 years, didn't brush her teeth, help her wipe after pottying, brush her hair, give her juice...didn't even check on her once! She sat on the couch for 2 hours straight and watched TV. THen she spread 's toys out on the floor to make it look like she had been playing with her as she is supposed to be doing. At one point jamie yelled " NO " and slammed her arms on her desk in her room and our trusted PCA's head didn't even move in reaction. She text messaged, ran around and emptied the trash (which I only ask her to do when Jim is gone) right before she knew I was coming out of the bedroom. > > The worst (?) part was when I came out I asked her straight out if she had brushed jamie's teeth, given her alot of juice, played with her etc. and she lied so convincingly straight to my face. I even mentioned there were some file folder games in the armoire she could have used and she said oh yeah I used a couple of them (she didn't go anywhere near the armoire). Mostly besides the fact that I now know I can absolutely not trust her to do her job unless I'm watching her I felt so betrayed and horrible for . I felt like I was looking down from heaven (big IF)after I died and watching how she would be treated by people....like less than a human, unloved and ignored because she is nonverbal and cannot tell anyone what is or is not going on. It was so sad. > > dh and I had thoroughly made our minds up to fire her so we confronted her yesterday morning and she started crying and begging for another chance and on and on and apologizing; my stomach is so sick right now! DH is a sucker for tears and because the storm was coming we had her stay yesterday and today (under supervision) and make 's food. But now dh is going away again for 4 days over labor day and I've totally ruined my back so I don't know what to do. There's no point having her here if I can't rest or sleep and I'll never be able to sleep again knowing she's in the house. I seriously doubt she would screw up again now that she knows she's on camera but she really gave me a pretty clear idea of how she feels or doesn't feel about us and our dtr. She's 22 from Brazil and cried and cried so much about how we are like her family and just ask anyone--- she tells all her friends how much she loves us and jamie. I told her I didn't give a sh** what she told her friends I care about what i saw with my own eyes. She also constantly professes to be a super Christian going to church often during the week. I gave her a little lecture on how you treat the least of MY children etc....what is that verse anyway? someone help me. > > She's making $19 an hour and lots of tips and presents and exta free hours etc. Oh well thanks for listening to my tale of woe. I'll probably crosspost this story to a couple other lists so those of you on the other lists...just delete. What a slap in the face....I feel like such a FOOL!!! > wah wah wah same old stuff from me. > > I'm reading you all as long as the power holds out. Take care everyone. 5:00 report says the storm is weakening YAY!!!! > Sherry, feeling incredibly stoooooopid. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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