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In a message dated 5/13/2006 11:02:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mick8_7@... writes:

I cant shop with him in the stroller.UGH! Laurie

Laurie,

I don't take Maddie shopping. It's just not worth it. Sometimes, we

go to the mall just to test her out every now and then. I NEVER take her by

myself....well, I tried recently and it was a fiasco. I had her in her

stroller (ALWAYS take it with us....she goes in right from her seat in the car

to avoid her running away, AND I park in the handicapped parking) but I had

to go to the bathroom so bad I was bursting. Took her into Bloomingdales

but the handicapped toilet was locked, so I had to use a regular one.....I left

her outside the door, and held the door open the whole time....well, she

pushed herself IN THE STROLLER so she wasn't in my eyesight....I freaked.

Tried to finish quickly...it didn't go well. All I can say is I'm glad I

was wearing black pants!!!!!!! First time I peed my pants since I was two,

for sure!!!!!! LOLOLOL Hey, ya gotta laugh!!!!!

Donna

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In a message dated 5/13/2006 6:20:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

You might want to shift to a shopping wheelchair that many stores (K-mart

and Walmart) have right near the door. The basket fits over the lap. Not

perfect, but safer than a cart. BTW - I put ELie in the body of the cart as

long as he could climb up on a bench and put himself in the cart - no

lifting for this aged mom.

We did the same thing until Trisha got to big for me to lift into the body

of the cart and then for awhile we would open up the back-end of the cart and

let her crawl in until she got to big to do that and then we moved on to the

wheelchair with the basket in front and we still use it today whenever we go

shopping. Sometimes they only have regular wheelchairs but they had straps

in them that came between the legs and across the waist so she couldn't slide

out. Trisha is now as big as I am weight wise and only about a head shorter

than I am but I don't let her know that she is stronger than me. :-) She

doesn't do the DAF much now but when she does she is much easier to get up

because over the years she learned that she won't get something or will have

something taken away. She gets 3 warnings and then she gets the appropriate

discipline. There is no way I could pick her up at all now or doing any

tugging. It takes time to teach them but is well worth the effort years down

the

road when they are as big or bigger than you are. I also learned that I had to

make sure I didn't sound like I was whining myself when I was trying to get

her up as then she just ignored me more, so I have to make sure I have a

no-nonsense sound to my voice if I want her to pay attention and be redirected.

Having said all that, there are some times that nothing works but just

waiting them out. :-)

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

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You might want to shift to a shopping wheelchair that many stores (K-mart

and Walmart) have right near the door. The basket fits over the lap. Not

perfect, but safer than a cart. BTW - I put ELie in the body of the cart as

long as he could climb up on a bench and put himself in the cart - no

lifting for this aged mom.

Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons.

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>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:13:05 EDT

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>In a message dated 5/13/2006 11:02:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>mick8_7@... writes:

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>I cant shop with him in the stroller.UGH! Laurie

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>Laurie,

> I don't take Maddie shopping. It's just not worth it. Sometimes,

>we

>go to the mall just to test her out every now and then. I NEVER take her

>by

>myself....well, I tried recently and it was a fiasco. I had her in

>her

>stroller (ALWAYS take it with us....she goes in right from her seat in the

>car

>to avoid her running away, AND I park in the handicapped parking) but I

>had

>to go to the bathroom so bad I was bursting. Took her into Bloomingdales

>but the handicapped toilet was locked, so I had to use a regular one.....I

>left

>her outside the door, and held the door open the whole time....well, she

>pushed herself IN THE STROLLER so she wasn't in my eyesight....I freaked.

>Tried to finish quickly...it didn't go well. All I can say is I'm

>glad I

>was wearing black pants!!!!!!! First time I peed my pants since I was

>two,

>for sure!!!!!! LOLOLOL Hey, ya gotta laugh!!!!!

>Donna

>

>

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Laurie, Happy Mothers Day. So sorry your trip to Walmart was ugly.I

told a manager a Walmart about how hard it is to shop with my son in

a wheelchair because I like all of us cannot hold everything and

shop pushing the wheelchair. I said Walmart needs a shopping

bag,like a big mesh or clear bag that can hang across the back.Then

the manager went to the athletic or sporting good department and

came back with a hug mesh bag which he gave to me as a courtesy from

the store. The bag hangs on the back and I take it with me when I am

shopping.I have used the store wheelchair but sometimes my son will

through things out of the cart in front of him.Forget about the

people staring in reality they probably feel sorry for you and I

know it is uncomfortable because they look but we all have looked at

someone who may have made a noise just because it startled us.My mom

always said " don't stare it's rude and that person cannot help the

way they are " , but some people are not taught any manners and so

they do not pass this along to their kids.I know looking back that I

could not look at a person with DS because it made me uncomfortable

and I felt that I could not deal with having a child like this. But

I do it with pride and I am greatful that my is not with

someone that would abuse him and so I just keep moving and I try not

to pay attention to others in the stores.My husband hates when

people look to the point he tells them " why don't you take a

picture? " And now my daughter who is 14 says mom why do people stare

it makes her so upset she stares back.We cannot control what others

do but we can control how we react, and so try to ignore those few

individuals who are rubber necking just like at an accident on the

road. Hold your head high and keep moving don't even look around y

ou when your child acts up you cannot control this either and do not

make yourself a prisoner of your home we have every right to go out

in public just like everyone else. I hope things get better.Happy

Mothers Day. Cyndi

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> I took Mic to walmart and it did not go well. Out of the car seat

close to the door he usually runs in so he can get on the ride but

No he ran accross the parking lot and when I caught him flopped in

the middle of a big puddle and he was dripping wet. Got him up held

him by the back of his jacket and out of that jacket towards the

garden center outside.Ok inside by the helicopter he tries to get on

it and cant I am scrambling for change and hes hanging half on and

half off the helicopter I had a real hard time getting him in it.Ok

ride the helicopter and now time to get in cart. Well I have my high

heeled boots on so I can lift him high enough and one foot goes in

the hole and the other is twisted and Im stuck. I cant let go of him

I cant untwist his foot. hes screaming.A clerk untwisted his foot

for me and off we went.Right to VCR tapes and Mic chooses one he

already has and has a fit because I wont let him have it. I gave him

a different one and he threw it.He kicked me

> while I was pushing the cart the entire time I was pushing him.

People were staring at us and I am so frustrated and mad I dont know

what I am mad at Im just mad because I cant do it anymore hes too

big.I dont think Mic would tolerate a harness and I cant shop with

him in the stroller.UGH! Laurie

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Laurie, My is much better for his father than I. does not

spend as much time with his father and so his father never has the

problems I have.However if the situation was reversed would

probably be much better for me. You have more energy for these

children lets face it when you do not have to spend as much time with

them.I understand that you want people to help so make it known that

you want this help. People are not mind readers and let face it " this

ain't workin for ya " . Ha Ha Now seriously sometimes people want to

help but are afraid to offer because they are afraid they will maybe

affend the handicapped.Some people get upset if they are handicapped

and you try to help them.This may or may not be your situation, I am

just trying to give you another senario.Mic sounds like and

believe you me would throw things out of a basket sitting in

front of him.Try hanging the see through mesh bag on the back of the

wheelchair it has made my life easier. Laurie tie a not in your rope

and hang on things will get better. Have a great day. Cyndi

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> Thanks all for your encouragement and Happy Mothers Day to all. The

staring doesnt really bother me its the fact that they are watching us

in a dangerous position with Mic and instead of offering to help they

stare. We live in a rural area and everyone knows us why dont they ask

me if I need help its obvious I do.

> Mic and I have become prisoners in our own house. I cant put Mic

in the front of the cart because if he can reach it he throws it.I was

looking at the carts where the kids sit in a plastic seat in the front

and there are seat belts maybe next time I will try them.A wheelchair

with a basket is an idea too.Get this my dh comes home and takes Mic

to walmart and does all the grocery shopping with minimal problems

because he has no problem picking Mic up. Laurie

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People, are rude,misinformed, and there is always a busy body waiting

to say something negative.That's a shame that people still live in the

dark ages about Ds and that they will not help you.The person that's

says I can't believe she lets her child do that has no idea what our

lives are like. I would probably turn around and ask if she has a

better alternative because finding a child sitter for disabled

children is very hard to fine. Good luck. Cyndi

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> When I am out in a store on a trip with the child in our class and

he has flopped or begins to " scream " I have heard people say I can't

believe she lets her child do that. I want to say this is NOT my child

and mind your own business. However, I just ignore them and deal with

the situation. People here won't help if your life depended on it.

Plus no one wants to get near this particular child period.

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