Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 >I wonder, as I have a list of the alchemical processes, if it wld interest some of you >to pursue this idea? Dear Alice, I'd love to see/read/hear some discussion that can connect alchemical processes (those darn terms are so confusing!) with the little I know about archetypal processes, etc. I'm still learning and much of what I have learned seems fragmented. It'd be nice to be able to tie it all together somehow. Blissings, Sam The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. ~Gloria SteinemThe best mind-altering drug is truth. ~Lily Tomlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I'd be interested. I had this dream some years ago and it's been on my mind lately: I stir molten metal in a crucible. As I do this, someone explains that this is molten gold which has been separated from the ore and from the copper and other metals that were in the ore through a refining process which involved several steps. Now I stir the cooling gold so it coats the inside of the crucible. This way it will form a malleable sheet instead of a solid lump. I picture the gold being shaped into a mask shaped like the sun. --- alice wrote: > > I wonder, as I have a list of the alchemical processes, > if it wld interest > some of you to pursue this idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I stir molten metal in a crucible. As I do this, someone explains thatthis is molten gold which has been separated from the ore and from thecopper and other metals that were in the ore through a refiningprocess which involved several steps. Now I stir the cooling gold soit coats the inside of the crucible. This way it will form a malleablesheet instead of a solid lump. I picture the gold being shaped into amask shaped like the sun My word! that is an alchemical dream all right!! You know I keep harping on the sacred geometry of Jung's mandala model of the psyche: the circle w/a dot in the center= Self [Divine Guest]. That is also the glyph in ASTRONOMY FOR THE sun! n in metallurgy for gold. Nuff said. The alchemists were reputed to be trying to make Gold out of lead, but their texts read non aurum vulgae - not vulgar [literal] gold. Astrol. lead is ruled by Saturn, painful lessons, karma. To turn one's negative complexes into positive wisdom applied in life is the 'work' that frees the Divine Guest to shine thru us {splendor solis]. The secret I had to learn myself was funny. I thought understanding what my prob was, was all that was necessary! Ha-ha! No, that is only the first step.........you have to apply it in action in yr life n sure enough the test appears almost immediately!! I'm sure many of u know what I mean but praps didn't know that was a kind of alchemy. As with evthing I seem to do, I cn only explain alchemy at the kindergarten level n mainly fr the astrol angle because that's the best I cn do. Jung wrote a whole Vol. 13 in the CW called Alchemical Studies wh is at the Ph.d level, but I have had more enjoyment than u cn imagine discov the processes all around. Shakespeare used alch symbolism frequently as did Goethe. Think "Merchant of Venice".. gotta stop love n golden leaves ao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 >To turn one's negative complexes into positive wisdom applied in life is the 'work' that frees >the Divine Guest to shine thru us {splendor solis] Ah! Alchemy in a nutshell. *G* >I thought understanding what my prob was, was all that was necessary! Ha-ha! No, that is only the >first step.........you have to apply it in action in yr life n sure enough the test appears almost >immediately!! This is the part I hate. (Well, not really.) Understanding is so much easier than applying. *BG* Blissings, Sam The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. ~Gloria SteinemThe best mind-altering drug is truth. ~Lily Tomlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Shakespeare used alch symbolism frequently as did Goethe. Think "Merchant of Venice"..And "the Tempest" too. Alice, I have always been curious about connection between the tetraktys and alchemy. I've seen the third row of stones associated with salt, mercury, and sulphur, which makes sense to me. I've wondered whether the center stone, the one associated with Mercury and the one that touches all the other stones from the inside but never touches the outside, the one that must represent the Divine Guest, might also represent the Philosopher's Stone, Pythagoras being the Philosopher. If you rotate the Tetraktys, the top stone, the Monad, becomes part of the bottom line, and either the earth or the fire stone, depending on whether you rotate it clockwise or counter-clockwise, becomes the Monad: "the stone that the build refused becomes the head cornerstone."But the central stone is always the central stone. That's why I thought it might be the secret key.Eve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 > ... I wonder, as I have a list of the alchemical processes, if it wld > interest some of you to pursue this idea? ... You definitely have my attention, now. And with sustained attention, how will I escape participation? APMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Count me in! [Nice ?synchronicity? -- I was just this afternoon reading some of Tarnas's commentaries on, specifically, Jung's work with alchemy.] Would you like to share your list with us? love to all, marte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Count me in! [Nice ?synchronicity? -- I was just this afternoon reading some of Tarnas's commentaries on, specifically, Jung's work with alchemy.] Would you like to share your list with us? love to all, marte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 > I wonder, as I have a list of the alchemical processes, if it wld interest > some of you to pursue this idea? Alice, I most _certainly_ am interested. Would love to see your list, for a good focused beginning. [What? marte is asking for focus???!!! Why on earth might that be?!] By " synchronicity " (?) I was just this afternoon reading some of Tarnas's comments on this particular part of Jung's work (in Part II of his Cosmos and Psyche). BTW, all, I being on occasion, also a " Virgo Prunefiddle " : When I type " marte " with a lower case " m " I'm not (for once?!) being slovenly or inattentive. It's a deliberate choice of ?! style ?! for me. love to all, marte (aka e e cummings in drag) [Oh gross. :-( :-) All of Tarnas's fine 30-years-in-the-making live but not frivolous prose must have fried my brain?!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- > > I wonder, as I have a list of the alchemical processes, if it wld interest > some of you to pursue this idea? Yes, please! <<<3 Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 As there doesn't seem to be much interest in the alchemical thread viewed as processes discernible in evday life, I will just list them here: Hi Alice, I was tempted but didn't mention about alchemy on another thread, namely, "Belief and gnosis." It seemed to me that my metaphor of the seed falling on various types of ground could demonstrate various and several alchemical processes. Or don't metaphorical references count as things that happen in everyday life? *S* Blissings, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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