Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Now what do you suppose it means when the 'coins' used to throw an I Ching hexagram just up and disappear? From a perfectly secure location, for that matter. They've been in the same place on the bookshelf with the I Ching for years, never fallen or gotten lost before, but now I find one lying on the floor and the other two are just gone. Is forcing me to buy new ones the I Ching way of giving notice of an extreme 'change of luck'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 some time ago my son threw the I Ching and did not like the throw so he did it again and got exactly the same! Any maths people about? What's the chances of that? F. > Now what do you suppose it means when the 'coins' used to throw an I > Ching hexagram just up and disappear? From a perfectly secure > location, for that matter. They've been in the same place on the > bookshelf with the I Ching for years, never fallen or gotten lost > before, but now I find one lying on the floor and the other two are > just gone. Is forcing me to buy new ones the I Ching way of giving > notice of an extreme 'change of luck'? > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 > > some time ago my son threw the I Ching and did not like the throw so he did it again > and got exactly the same! > Any maths people about? What's the chances of that? > F. > probability = 1/64 = .015625 ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 >> some time ago my son threw the I Ching and did not like the throw so he did it again > and got exactly the same!> Any maths people about? What's the chances of that?> F.> probability = 1/64 = .015625 Were there moving lines? In that case the probability wld be far less....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 probability = 1/64 = .015625 Were there moving lines? In that case the probability wld be far less....... Yes, I was going to reply to this earlier, that in the case of changing lines, the extreme of an exact match of a particular arrangement of those lines would bring the probability factor to 1/64sq. or 4096 to 1. The MathMutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Hi, - Could be, I s'pose. Or: do you have cats or mice in your abode? [i don't know whether you live in a house an apartment a yurt a tent or an igloo and I do have this thing about A Sense of Place Being Important to me, so I decided not to say " house " ]. Or perhaps (this is my wishful thinking) the I Ching is telling you you need to pay real coin to someone to do house (apartment yurt tent & etc.) cleaning for you and that marte, who [quite politically incorrectly] loves doing this sort of thing is just the person to make your surroundings peaceful [think the Rainmaker, in drag?] and her dentist delighted she can pay him to try to his best to salvage what's left in her mouth from the fine work he (and many predecessors) once did in there. Ah weel. I don't even know where you live after all, but I know it's not just " down the road apiece " . [:-(] BTW, Thanks so much for the lead to _Hamlet's Myth_. It is obviously everything you implied and more besides. Don't expect to have anything the least bit cogent or even coherent to say about it for a _long long_ time, but didn't want to be remiss in my thank-you notes. [Had I already sent you one?] marte/fricassee > > Now what do you suppose it means when the 'coins' used to throw an I Ching > hexagram just up and disappear? From a perfectly secure location, for that > matter. They've been in the same place on the bookshelf with the I Ching for > years, never fallen or gotten lost before, but now I find one lying on the > floor and the other two are just gone. Is forcing me to buy new ones the I > Ching way of giving notice of an extreme 'change of luck'? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 jdstephenflynn@... writes: >some time ago my son threw the I Ching and did not like the throw >so he did it again and got exactly the same! >Any maths people about? What's the chances of that? > F. Probably a simple 1 in 64 if you are examining just the one incident. Much more interesting is asking the same question over a period of months or years and constantly getting the same hexagram, as I did. When I finally got something different, the coins disappeared! (Hmm, but it's been several weeks. I'm not certain how much time may have passed from the disappearance to actually noticing...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 They were found in an ally... read on here ! Sephen F. > jdstephenflynn@... writes: > > >some time ago my son threw the I Ching and did not like the throw so > >he did it again and got exactly the same! Any maths people about? > >What's the chances of that? F. > > Probably a simple 1 in 64 if you are examining just the one incident. > Much more interesting is asking the same question over a period of > months or years and constantly getting the same hexagram, as I did. > When I finally got something different, the coins disappeared! (Hmm, > but it's been several weeks. I'm not certain how much time may have > passed from the disappearance to actually noticing...) > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 " marte " writes: >Hi, - >Could be, I s'pose. Or: do you have cats or mice in your abode? >[i don't know whether you live in a house an apartment a yurt a >tent or an igloo and I do have this thing about A Sense of Place >Being Important to me, so I decided not to say " house " ]. No voluntary pets at this time. It's a very small apartment. No space for them. I don't think 'involuntary' pets like mice would mess with the coins. >Or perhaps (this is my wishful thinking) the I Ching is telling >you you need to pay real coin to someone to do house (apartment >yurt tent & etc.) cleaning for you and that marte, who [quite >politically incorrectly] loves doing this sort of thing is just >the person to make your surroundings peaceful [think the Rainmaker, >in drag?] and her dentist delighted she can pay him to try to his >best to salvage what's left in her mouth from the fine work he >(and many predecessors) once did in there. Ah weel. I don't >even know where you live after all, but I know it's not just " down >the road apiece " . [:-(] Well, after the stories from 'AO' and others I have to wonder if perhaps there was a need for some divination coins to participate in some spooky event somewhere and I got elected to provide them. It shouldn't be too terribly expensive to get some more of the same sort. They appear to be fairly common even though I bought them quite a few years ago. And 'replica' Chinese coins, too. http://www.insight-books.com/DVN6 http://grandpasgeneral.com/psy5.html So if I don't find them myself in a week or two I guess I'll just order a new supply. But I'd better look for them myself. I dunno if it would be a good idea to have house-cleaning done by someone who locks herself out of her own house. Lots more stuff might disappear into hyperspace and not be found for ages. >BTW, Thanks so much for the lead to _Hamlet's Myth_. It is >obviously everything you implied and more besides. Don't expect >to have anything the least bit cogent or even coherent to say >about it for a _long long_ time, but didn't want to be remiss >in my thank-you notes. [Had I already sent you one?] Oh, I would be surprised if you could formulate any sort of 'reaction' to it for some time if you have just begun reading it. It's one of those rare books that really conveys a 'big' idea. So big that you really can't summarize it easily. The details that most people cite -- that the precessional numbers are embedded into mythology around the world -- are just a particular example of the real theme they are trying to illustrate. It's really an attempt to get at the 'archaic' mindset, meaning the 'great' minds of the archaic world, not the common ones. In Jungian terms I guess you could say they postulate that these people possessed an extreme degree of 'integration' between symbolic and rational thinking. So extreme that we really cannot grasp it, but this 300+ page book tries to draw some vague outlines of it. --- Now that Plato's apprehensions have become fact, there is nothing left of the ancient knowledge except the relics, fragments and allusions that have survived the steep attrition of the ages. Part of the lost treasure may be recovered through archaeology; some of it - Mayan astronomy, for instance - may be reconstructed through sheer mathematical ingenuity; but the system as a whole may lie beyond all conjecture, because the creating, ordering minds that made it have vanished forever. Giorgio de Santillana & Hertha von Dechend, Hamlet's Mill, p. 348 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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