Re: the work is the answer

[Guest guest]

maybe the work, works well for some now...or maybe some do the work well now and

so it works for them.

maybe the work is not the answer for you now.

i have " watched " you struggling for so long.

have you ever thought about trying something else?

 

-lisa

Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It

will not lead you astray.

Rumi

Subject: the work is the answer

To: Loving-what-is

Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:36 PM

is that true?

yes

can you absolutely know this?

no i cant.

how do you react this thought when it doesn't solve stuff?

i think im a lost cause, i do it again and again over and over, i

start to hate it and hate myself.

who would you be if you didn't believe it's the answer?

i would probably look for something else, i would be as miserable, if

i would do the work i would do it with less expectations, i wouldn't

as hate myself when the problem returns.

T.A: the work is not the answer

1.right, i can see that.. it's another addiction, another thing im

depended on.

2.maybe it's not working at all and everybody wants to believe it so

much they fool themselves with it.

3.the work is not the answer to...... what question?

T.A: the work is the question

T.A: i am the answer

1.what question am i the answer too?

2.everything in me is ok the way it is

well this has gone nowhere..

[Guest guest]

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> To: Loving-what-is

> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:36 PM

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> is that true?

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> can you absolutely know this?

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> how do you react this thought when it doesn't solve stuff?

> i think im a lost cause, i do it again and again over and over, i

> start to hate it and hate myself.

> who would you be if you didn't believe it's the answer?

> i would probably look for something else, i would be as miserable, if

> i would do the work i would do it with less expectations, i wouldn't

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> 1.right, i can see that.. it's another addiction, another thing im

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[Guest guest]

Facy,

The work is not the answer, because ultimately it does goes nowhere -

when you say " the answer " , check out what you mean by that, what you

think it will deliver / provide. This is (probably) your motive for

doing the work.

A place to take this motive, if you want to, is to check out if you

will really be happier if you get this. (I use the format of " I'd be

happier if..... " ).

For example, when I started with the work, my motive was to save my

relationship with my (now) ex-wife - then my motive after that was to

stop feeling depressed / feel peace (which I pictured as never feeling

unhappy, etc).

(I can even remember inquiring into " I want to be happy " and inquiring

into " I'd be happier if I was happier " - which still makes me laugh)

However, as I've continued, I do feel more at peace with feeling

unhappy, sometimes depressed, more balanced.

In my experience, the work will ultimately fail to deliver anything

other than truth - and it's sort of designed that way. And I notice

that my relationship with my ex-wife has improved, not in the way I

wanted originally - I'm not much more at peace about it, can think of

her without feeling irritation, anger, etc.

By the way, I don't see anything wrong with having a motive for doing

the work - I doubt anyone would start using it without a motive - and

noticing the motive can show where we're trying to 'get something'

from using the work.

Jon