RE: Re: Working out in PAIN-

October 10, 2006

Goodbye ,

Come back when you are ready to restart BFL.

Thanks,

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Holowko, CPA, CCP

PO Box 444

Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-0444

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Telephone:

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E-mailto:gholowko@...

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Remember... Progress, NOT perfection!

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From: bodyforlife [mailto:bodyforlife ] On

Behalf Of rockinkindaguy

Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:41 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Working out in PAIN-

Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

judge how they fit.....food for thought!

>

> ,

>

> I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

like someone

> who likes to suffer.

>

> I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

have worked out

> through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

health

> conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

breast cancer

> during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

during my

> third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

>

> This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

couldn't

> participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

was told

> off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

chest CTs,

> leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

pulmonary

> embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

on the

> goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

amounted to

> being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

I could

> not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

30th...having a

> PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

didn't get

> discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

I loved my

> body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

do to get a

> clean bill of health.

>

> Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

out to get

> you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

po'd when

> people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

helpful- people

> who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

been on this

> list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

intentions. I

> have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

designed to hurt

> another.

>

> Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

people on this

> board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

fitness goals.

>

> We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

and your

> medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

so you can

> be open to the love on this board.

>

> just my .02

>

> Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

>

> With warmest regards and much love and light,

>

> Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

response. (*What

> would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

then simply

> hit delete.

>

> Quoting rockinkindaguy :

>

> > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> >

> > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > a migrane.

> >

> > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> >

>

October 10, 2006

,

You missed my point entirely, I never said you were bad. Nor am I judging you.

I just stated how you have been occuring for me. Never did the word " bad " come

out of my mind or hands as I typed.

Please re-read my post. It stated what I have been doing and what has worked for

me. If you really want to get hung up on me having no idea what you are going

through, please consider that a Stage 4 cancer dx, especially the kind I have,

a rare and agressive type of cancer-(meaning meaning people with my type of

cancer) live 2 1/2 years on average. Docs tell me I will be lucky to make to 5

years. (Please note, this " time period " ends in June of 2007) How much time do

the docs say you have? How close are you to dying?

True, I am not in your shoes. You are in your shoes. You create your destiny.

You are the master of the life God has given you.

No kidding. Watch The Secret. (It has been such a blessing.) You can watch it

online and it only costs $4.95. If you feel like it was a waste of your money,

I will send you a check to cover the cost.

Sending you love and light and the peace of Christ,

uoting rockinkindaguy :

> Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

> things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

> judge how they fit.....food for thought!

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

> like someone

> > who likes to suffer.

> >

> > I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

> have worked out

> > through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

> health

> > conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

> breast cancer

> > during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

> during my

> > third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

> >

> > This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

> couldn't

> > participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

> was told

> > off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

> chest CTs,

> > leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

> pulmonary

> > embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

> on the

> > goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

> amounted to

> > being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

> I could

> > not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

> 30th...having a

> > PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

> didn't get

> > discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

> I loved my

> > body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

> do to get a

> > clean bill of health.

> >

> > Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

> out to get

> > you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

> po'd when

> > people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

> helpful- people

> > who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

> been on this

> > list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

> intentions. I

> > have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

> designed to hurt

> > another.

> >

> > Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> > Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

> people on this

> > board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

> fitness goals.

> >

> > We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

> and your

> > medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

> so you can

> > be open to the love on this board.

> >

> > just my .02

> >

> > Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

> >

> > With warmest regards and much love and light,

> >

> > Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

> response. (*What

> > would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

> then simply

> > hit delete.

> >

> > Quoting rockinkindaguy :

> >

> > > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> > >

> > > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > > a migrane.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2006

,

I think it's time to say goodbye, now.

If and when you resume your BFL program, we'll chat then.

Adios.

- - - - -

Holowko, CPA, CCP

PO Box 444

Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-0444

- - - - -

Telephone:

- - - - -

E-mailto:gholowko@...

- - - - -

Remember... Progress, NOT perfection!

- - - - -

_____

From: bodyforlife [mailto:bodyforlife ] On

Behalf Of rockinkindaguy

Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:03 AM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Working out in PAIN-

I have been called the Antichrist....enough said!!!!

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

> > like someone

> > > who likes to suffer.

> > >

> > > I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

> > have worked out

> > > through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

> > health

> > > conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

> > breast cancer

> > > during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

> > during my

> > > third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

> > >

> > > This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

> > couldn't

> > > participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

> > was told

> > > off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

> > chest CTs,

> > > leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

> > pulmonary

> > > embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

> > on the

> > > goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

> > amounted to

> > > being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

> > I could

> > > not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

> > 30th...having a

> > > PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

> > didn't get

> > > discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

> > I loved my

> > > body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

> > do to get a

> > > clean bill of health.

> > >

> > > Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

> > out to get

> > > you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

> > po'd when

> > > people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

> > helpful- people

> > > who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

> > been on this

> > > list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

> > intentions. I

> > > have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

> > designed to hurt

> > > another.

> > >

> > > Here is something I think will transform your life:

www.thesecrettv.com.

> > > Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

> > people on this

> > > board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

> > fitness goals.

> > >

> > > We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

> > and your

> > > medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

> > so you can

> > > be open to the love on this board.

> > >

> > > just my .02

> > >

> > > Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

> > >

> > > With warmest regards and much love and light,

> > >

> > > Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

> > response. (*What

> > > would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

> > then simply

> > > hit delete.

> > >

> > > Quoting rockinkindaguy <rockinkindaguy@>:

> > >

> > > > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and

did my

> > > > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't

want to

> > > > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > > > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > > > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> > > >

> > > > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give

you a

> > > > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on

top of

> > > > a migrane.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2006

Who called you the " Anti Christ? " I did not, nor have I seen anyone else on

this list call you that. You must be calling yourself that.

Please love yourself enough to let others love you.

Love and light,

Quoting rockinkindaguy :

> I have been called the Antichrist....enough said!!!!

>

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

> > > like someone

> > > > who likes to suffer.

> > > >

> > > > I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

> > > have worked out

> > > > through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

> > > health

> > > > conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

> > > breast cancer

> > > > during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

> > > during my

> > > > third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

> > > >

> > > > This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

> > > couldn't

> > > > participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

> > > was told

> > > > off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

> > > chest CTs,

> > > > leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

> > > pulmonary

> > > > embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

> > > on the

> > > > goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

> > > amounted to

> > > > being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

> > > I could

> > > > not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

> > > 30th...having a

> > > > PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

> > > didn't get

> > > > discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

> > > I loved my

> > > > body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

> > > do to get a

> > > > clean bill of health.

> > > >

> > > > Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

> > > out to get

> > > > you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

> > > po'd when

> > > > people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

> > > helpful- people

> > > > who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

> > > been on this

> > > > list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

> > > intentions. I

> > > > have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

> > > designed to hurt

> > > > another.

> > > >

> > > > Here is something I think will transform your life:

> www.thesecrettv.com.

> > > > Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

> > > people on this

> > > > board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

> > > fitness goals.

> > > >

> > > > We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

> > > and your

> > > > medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

> > > so you can

> > > > be open to the love on this board.

> > > >

> > > > just my .02

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

> > > >

> > > > With warmest regards and much love and light,

> > > >

> > > > Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

> > > response. (*What

> > > > would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

> > > then simply

> > > > hit delete.

> > > >

> > > > Quoting rockinkindaguy <rockinkindaguy@>:

> > > >

> > > > > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and

> did my

> > > > > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't

> want to

> > > > > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > > > > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > > > > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> > > > >

> > > > > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give

> you a

> > > > > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on

> top of

> > > > > a migrane.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2006

In a message dated 10/10/2006 10:03:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mrbriankf@... writes:

From what I see, you are a wonderful, kind, considerate and thoughtful

person.

ditto...

You are in my prayers.

double ditto...

Kim

October 10, 2006

,

From what I see, you are a wonderful, kind, considerate and thoughtful person.

I have seen the link to that movie before, but just decised to watch the

trailer. I will watch it either later tonight or tomorrow. I think this movie

and this group helps those that want to be helped.

Thanks a bunch for sending this link out! You are in my prayers.

shopkh@... wrote:

,

You missed my point entirely, I never said you were bad. Nor am I judging you.

I just stated how you have been occuring for me. Never did the word " bad " come

out of my mind or hands as I typed.

Please re-read my post. It stated what I have been doing and what has worked for

me. If you really want to get hung up on me having no idea what you are going

through, please consider that a Stage 4 cancer dx, especially the kind I have,

a rare and agressive type of cancer-(meaning meaning people with my type of

cancer) live 2 1/2 years on average. Docs tell me I will be lucky to make to 5

years. (Please note, this " time period " ends in June of 2007) How much time do

the docs say you have? How close are you to dying?

True, I am not in your shoes. You are in your shoes. You create your destiny.

You are the master of the life God has given you.

No kidding. Watch The Secret. (It has been such a blessing.) You can watch it

online and it only costs $4.95. If you feel like it was a waste of your money,

I will send you a check to cover the cost.

Sending you love and light and the peace of Christ,

uoting rockinkindaguy :

> Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

> things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

> judge how they fit.....food for thought!

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

> like someone

> > who likes to suffer.

> >

> > I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

> have worked out

> > through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

> health

> > conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

> breast cancer

> > during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

> during my

> > third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

> >

> > This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

> couldn't

> > participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

> was told

> > off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

> chest CTs,

> > leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

> pulmonary

> > embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

> on the

> > goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

> amounted to

> > being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

> I could

> > not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

> 30th...having a

> > PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

> didn't get

> > discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

> I loved my

> > body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

> do to get a

> > clean bill of health.

> >

> > Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

> out to get

> > you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

> po'd when

> > people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

> helpful- people

> > who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

> been on this

> > list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

> intentions. I

> > have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

> designed to hurt

> > another.

> >

> > Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> > Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

> people on this

> > board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

> fitness goals.

> >

> > We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

> and your

> > medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

> so you can

> > be open to the love on this board.

> >

> > just my .02

> >

> > Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

> >

> > With warmest regards and much love and light,

> >

> > Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

> response. (*What

> > would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

> then simply

> > hit delete.

> >

> > Quoting rockinkindaguy :

> >

> > > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> > >

> > > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > > a migrane.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2006

It really is an interesting movie! A little too new agey for me, but I get the

point of it all. Didn't really realize how I was fitting everything together

regarding the race until 's email-so I guess that was a blessing!

Quoting " Mr. Frazier " :

> ,

>

> From what I see, you are a wonderful, kind, considerate and thoughtful

> person. I have seen the link to that movie before, but just decised to watch

> the trailer. I will watch it either later tonight or tomorrow. I think this

> movie and this group helps those that want to be helped.

>

> Thanks a bunch for sending this link out! You are in my prayers.

>

> shopkh@... wrote:

> ,

>

> You missed my point entirely, I never said you were bad. Nor am I judging

> you.

> I just stated how you have been occuring for me. Never did the word " bad "

> come

> out of my mind or hands as I typed.

>

> Please re-read my post. It stated what I have been doing and what has worked

> for

> me. If you really want to get hung up on me having no idea what you are going

> through, please consider that a Stage 4 cancer dx, especially the kind I

> have,

> a rare and agressive type of cancer-(meaning meaning people with my type of

> cancer) live 2 1/2 years on average. Docs tell me I will be lucky to make to

> 5

> years. (Please note, this " time period " ends in June of 2007) How much time

> do

> the docs say you have? How close are you to dying?

>

> True, I am not in your shoes. You are in your shoes. You create your destiny.

> You are the master of the life God has given you.

>

> No kidding. Watch The Secret. (It has been such a blessing.) You can watch it

> online and it only costs $4.95. If you feel like it was a waste of your

> money,

> I will send you a check to cover the cost.

>

> Sending you love and light and the peace of Christ,

>

> uoting rockinkindaguy :

>

> > Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

> > things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

> > judge how they fit.....food for thought!

> >

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

> > like someone

> > > who likes to suffer.

> > >

> > > I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

> > have worked out

> > > through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

> > health

> > > conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

> > breast cancer

> > > during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

> > during my

> > > third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

> > >

> > > This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

> > couldn't

> > > participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

> > was told

> > > off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

> > chest CTs,

> > > leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

> > pulmonary

> > > embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

> > on the

> > > goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

> > amounted to

> > > being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

> > I could

> > > not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

> > 30th...having a

> > > PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

> > didn't get

> > > discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

> > I loved my

> > > body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

> > do to get a

> > > clean bill of health.

> > >

> > > Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

> > out to get

> > > you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

> > po'd when

> > > people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

> > helpful- people

> > > who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

> > been on this

> > > list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

> > intentions. I

> > > have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

> > designed to hurt

> > > another.

> > >

> > > Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> > > Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

> > people on this

> > > board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

> > fitness goals.

> > >

> > > We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

> > and your

> > > medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

> > so you can

> > > be open to the love on this board.

> > >

> > > just my .02

> > >

> > > Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

> > >

> > > With warmest regards and much love and light,

> > >

> > > Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

> > response. (*What

> > > would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

> > then simply

> > > hit delete.

> > >

> > > Quoting rockinkindaguy :

> > >

> > > > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > > > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > > > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > > > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > > > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> > > >

> > > > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > > > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > > > a migrane.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2006

Looks like our troll must think that he played nice long enough to fool us.

Uh-uh mister. We're too smart for that.

Terri

_____

From: bodyforlife [mailto:bodyforlife ] On

Behalf Of rockinkindaguy

Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:41 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Working out in PAIN-

Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

judge how they fit.....food for thought!

>

> ,

>

> I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

like someone

> who likes to suffer.

>

> I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

have worked out

> through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

health

> conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

breast cancer

> during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

during my

> third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

>

> This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

couldn't

> participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

was told

> off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

chest CTs,

> leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

pulmonary

> embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

on the

> goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

amounted to

> being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

I could

> not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

30th...having a

> PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

didn't get

> discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

I loved my

> body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

do to get a

> clean bill of health.

>

> Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

out to get

> you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

po'd when

> people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

helpful- people

> who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

been on this

> list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

intentions. I

> have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

designed to hurt

> another.

>

> Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

people on this

> board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

fitness goals.

>

> We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

and your

> medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

so you can

> be open to the love on this board.

>

> just my .02

>

> Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

>

> With warmest regards and much love and light,

>

> Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

response. (*What

> would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

then simply

> hit delete.

>

> Quoting rockinkindaguy :

>

> > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> >

> > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > a migrane.

> >

> > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> >

>

October 10, 2006

ditto :-) Sara

Re: Working out in PAIN-

Honestly....if you thinl I am that BAD don't respond....we ALL handle

things differently.....and unless you are in my shoes then you cannot

judge how they fit.....food for thought!

>

> ,

>

> I have been lurking on the list and I have to tell you, you seem

like someone

> who likes to suffer.

>

> I say this because yes, I have had cluster headaches, and yes, I

have worked out

> through them. Running seems to stop the pain. I have had serious

health

> conditions during the past four years, that being diagnosed with

breast cancer

> during my second challenge, being diagnosed with stage IV cancer

during my

> third challenge. The latest bout attacking my hip and spine.

>

> This year I was diagnosed with a blood clot near my heart and told I

couldn't

> participate in a run I had been training for. For four weeks I was

was told

> off and on I could run, then I couldn't. I had 1 brain CT, 2 Upper

chest CTs,

> leg ultra sound, neck vein ultra sound, and an ER admission for a

pulmonary

> embolism. So what you say? Well here is the thing. I kept my eyes

on the

> goal and when I was given the blessing to train, I trained. (This

amounted to

> being able to run a total of 4 times in September.) When I was told

I could

> not, I didn't. In the end, I was able to run the race on the

30th...having a

> PR by more than 4 minutes. Why? Because I focused on the goal. I

didn't get

> discouraged from what people said or what was going on with my body.

I loved my

> body enough to nuture it when it needed it and do what I needed to

do to get a

> clean bill of health.

>

> Here is the thing, you occur to me as someone who thinks everyone is

out to get

> you, make you wrong. etc. You ask for advice on the list, then get

po'd when

> people offer it. Then you blast everyone whose intent is to be

helpful- people

> who want to encourage you, make a difference for you etc. I have

been on this

> list, and no kidding, the people you have blasted have the best

intentions. I

> have never read anything they said to anyone as malicious or

designed to hurt

> another.

>

> Here is something I think will transform your life: www.thesecrettv.com.

> Take a look at it and really I request you start looking at the

people on this

> board as people who love you and want You to succeed at your

fitness goals.

>

> We can't remember every little thing that is going on with your body

and your

> medical conditions. I also suggest that you learn to love yourself

so you can

> be open to the love on this board.

>

> just my .02

>

> Sometimes others see the greatness in us and we blast them.

>

> With warmest regards and much love and light,

>

> Another question to ask yourself is WWBPS?* When you read a

response. (*What

> would Bill Say) If you think it is out of line with bfl,

then simply

> hit delete.

>

> Quoting rockinkindaguy :

>

> > Since several of you indicated I have no COMMITMENT I went and did my

> > LBWO in PAIN. I have had a migrane foer 2 days, BUT I didn't want to

> > be considered a wimp. On top of my LBWO I did 30 minutes of cardio

> > since I am non-committed. I hope a few of you get to experience a

> > cluster migrane during your workout...it's soooo energizing!!

> >

> > For you who do not know what a cluster migrane is I will give you a

> > simple overview: sisus headache on top of a tension headach on top of

> > a migrane.

> >

> > Thanks for your PAINFUL motivation!!

> >

>

October 11, 2006

,

Are you on drugs?

KB

Re: Working out in PAIN-

I have been called the Antichrist....enough said!!!!

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