Re: scared to start

[Guest guest]

gail-

i am not going to give you adive or anything else

of the like...i just wanted to say that we are very

similar... as in our children.... my oldest ,derek,

is 11 and diagnosed as gifted(as i read more and more

about the " synptoms " of AS i realize that he had

nearly every single warning sign as a child but

developed " giftedness " my 2nd child ,david, to make it

a long one has autism spectrum disorder asperger's. so

we each have two on each end of the pole. the amazing

thing is... they are both visual learners. they learn

identically. i wonder if there is a study about this

type of family...... any way see you neva

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Gail,

I can't help answer your questions to easily as we are rather new to the diet

also.

I am interested in getting the web address for the Speech/Diet site. We are

doing the diet because at 5 yrs old, our son only says about 8 - 10 words.

Thanks a lot,

Rhonda in CA

Mom to

[Guest guest]

Dear Neva:

There should be a study, shouldn't there? I'm meeting more and more families

where this is the case. Almost as if LD's and other disorders are on the same

continuum as giftedness and something makes the manifestation different...

Thanks for listening!

Gail

Re: [ ] scared to start

gail-

i am not going to give you adive or anything else

of the like...i just wanted to say that we are very

similar... as in our children.... my oldest ,derek,

is 11 and diagnosed as gifted(as i read more and more

about the " synptoms " of AS i realize that he had

nearly every single warning sign as a child but

developed " giftedness " my 2nd child ,david, to make it

a long one has autism spectrum disorder asperger's. so

we each have two on each end of the pole. the amazing

thing is... they are both visual learners. they learn

identically. i wonder if there is a study about this

type of family...... any way see you neva

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[Guest guest]

> I have been aware of GFCF diets for about a year, but have

> procastinated on trying them because: we've just moved to a new city

> and province; she's just started and is starting a number of new

> programmes and schools (including sensory integration [doesn't have

> SID, but has " issues " ], sensory-motor, assessment kindergarten, and

> speech therapy); she lives on milk, cereal and apples (surprise!).

>

> I'm wondering if enzymes without the GFCF diet would be a wise

> start. I can't see withdrawing and challenging possible problem

> foods until March break and would like to do something dietary

before

> then.

Many people are starting with enzymes without any other dietary

intervention, I think that would be okay to start with. I use the

enzymes from this url.

http://www.houstonni.com/

>

> I have found this site to be most interesting, particularly the link

> to Dana's almost overwhelming website! (I'm exploring it a little

at

> a time, Dana; it really is amazing...)

I am glad you find my site helpful. I have about 20 new things to

link to it when I get the time [LOL], so it will shortly be more

overwhelming than it is now!

I also appreciate the

> carefully worded advice of Dr. Devin, , , and the rest of

> you. I've used the APEC site (Alice comes in at 42; officially, she

> doesn't fit the AS criteria), and am busily putting holds of

> recommended books at my city library.

>

> I've tried to keep this short and failed! Please excuse me!

>

> Gail (mum to Alice [in Wonderland], and Philippa (age 9 and recently

> assessed as " gifted " )

I am both gifted and delayed. Very gifted in many areas, advanced

classes and early university, etc. But very delayed in others. It

can be seen together. Here is one site for that.

http://www.britesparks.com/index.htm

Thanks for saying hello.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dear Rhonda,

Speech/Diet isn't so much about a diet as fatty acid supplements which, as I've

said, we've found helpful. Go to SpeechDiet . You may also be

interested in www.drstordy.com.

Best of luck,

Gail

Re: [ ] scared to start

Welcome Gail,

I can't help answer your questions to easily as we are rather new to the diet

also.

I am interested in getting the web address for the Speech/Diet site. We are

doing the diet because at 5 yrs old, our son only says about 8 - 10 words.

Thanks a lot,

Rhonda in CA

Mom to

[Guest guest]

SpeechDiet

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From: <Rhons44@...>

> I am interested in getting the web address for the Speech/Diet site. We

are

> doing the diet because at 5 yrs old, our son only says about 8 - 10 words.

> Thanks a lot,

> Rhonda in CA

> Mom to

[Guest guest]

I understand your fear, we had the same worry for a while. It's a

horrible thought that things might get worse.

But in the end we realised leaving mercury in the brain because we were

scared was not a good solution.

rbg3boys wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I am convinced that I need to chelate my 6yo son.

> His hair test (#155) is horrible, lots of therapies have had

> marginal improvement. His history confirms that he is mercury toxic.

>

> I am just really scared to start for fear of making him worse. He is

> really high functioning, most people don't even notice any

> differences; however, I know as he gets older, the developmental gap

> will seem larger.

>

> Of course, I know " mainstream " doctors are very against chelation,

> but they have not done ANYTHING useful for us at all. Also, I think

> reading about some of the group member side effects scare me a

> little - I just hate to put him through that.

>

> Does everyone experience negative side effects? Does anyone wish

> they had not chelated? I guess hearing some positive outcomes would

> really help me not view this process as scary/risky. Thanks for your

> patience with a mom who really is trying to do her best...

>

> Janet

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am chelating my two boys (and myself) who are 9 and 6. My older

one is diagnosed Aspergers and is 'twice exceptional' so very high

functioning. My younger one has no diagnosis as it has not been

called for (so also very high functioning) but I know from hair and

porphyrine tests and gut problems that he is actually the more toxic

of the two.

Once we had all the nutritional supports in place we saw great

improvement so, like you, I was scared about starting chelation and

wondered if we were better off to just continue with the other

aspects of biomed. Anyway, I eventually decided if we didn't just

start, my head would explode with thinking about it - and that is

not a good look.

To cut a very long story short(er) we began last June on tiny doses

(10mg for my older son, 5mg for my younger). The main thing to be

prepared for is yeast flare-up. Have your yeast treatments on-hand

and use as needed. We have found the yeast very manageable and all

the indications are very very good. There are lots of intangible

improvements but I love the really tangible ones because no-one can

dispute that my older son no longer wets the bed and that my younger

son has recently started to grow (yipppeeee!)

Because I am chelating myself I know first hand what the benefits

feel like - my brain is slowly regaining some of the capacity it had

when I was younger and other funny symptoms I had are disappearing.

I feel very lucky to have found my way to this protocol which enables

these darstardly toxins to be chelated safely without bad side

effects. Go for it - you'll soon be counting the rounds and counting

the benefits. Very best wishes,

Alison W

>

> Hello,

> I am convinced that I need to chelate my 6yo son.

> His hair test (#155) is horrible, lots of therapies have had

> marginal improvement. His history confirms that he is mercury toxic.

>

> I am just really scared to start for fear of making him worse. He is

> really high functioning, most people don't even notice any

> differences; however, I know as he gets older, the developmental gap

> will seem larger.

>

> Of course, I know " mainstream " doctors are very against chelation,

> but they have not done ANYTHING useful for us at all. Also, I think

> reading about some of the group member side effects scare me a

> little - I just hate to put him through that.

>

> Does everyone experience negative side effects? Does anyone wish

> they had not chelated? I guess hearing some positive outcomes would

> really help me not view this process as scary/risky. Thanks for your

> patience with a mom who really is trying to do her best...

>

> Janet

>

[Guest guest]

I am also planning to chelate my 10 year old son for past few months,

but at the same time feel very scared about yeast flare up, so never

got started. Could you please share how you control yeast in your kids????

Thanks in advance!!!!

Sunny

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am convinced that I need to chelate my 6yo son.

> > His hair test (#155) is horrible, lots of therapies have had

> > marginal improvement. His history confirms that he is mercury toxic.

> >

> > I am just really scared to start for fear of making him worse. He is

> > really high functioning, most people don't even notice any

> > differences; however, I know as he gets older, the developmental gap

> > will seem larger.

> >

> > Of course, I know " mainstream " doctors are very against chelation,

> > but they have not done ANYTHING useful for us at all. Also, I think

> > reading about some of the group member side effects scare me a

> > little - I just hate to put him through that.

> >

> > Does everyone experience negative side effects? Does anyone wish

> > they had not chelated? I guess hearing some positive outcomes would

> > really help me not view this process as scary/risky. Thanks for your

> > patience with a mom who really is trying to do her best...

> >

> > Janet

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunny

Happy to share. We use Grapefruit Seed Extract. I buy the Kirkman

capsules. When I see the drunk giggly behaviour (or suspect yeast

for other reasons) I give them 1 cap am and 1 cap pm daily for 2

weeks. I have never seen a big die-off problem with this protocol,

just a settling of the symptoms. I find my older son is on it much

of the time although often only 1 per day. ( He was very badly

yeasty before we started biomed.) For myself the main sign of yeast

has been mouth ulcers (after 6 months of chelation and I had been

eating sugary muffins not gf). When this happens I take 2 caps am

and pm and up my probiotics (and drop the muffins!!).

The ongoing aspects of yeast control are probiotics every day, plus

the boys are gfcf soy-free, free of cane sugar and low on grains and

dried fruit, no juice (a bit like SCD but allow a few rice products

and the odd potato). Hope this helps,

Alison W

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > I am convinced that I need to chelate my 6yo son.

> > > His hair test (#155) is horrible, lots of therapies have had

> > > marginal improvement. His history confirms that he is mercury

toxic.

> > >

> > > I am just really scared to start for fear of making him worse.

He is

> > > really high functioning, most people don't even notice any

> > > differences; however, I know as he gets older, the

developmental gap

> > > will seem larger.

> > >

> > > Of course, I know " mainstream " doctors are very against

chelation,

> > > but they have not done ANYTHING useful for us at all. Also, I

think

> > > reading about some of the group member side effects scare me a

> > > little - I just hate to put him through that.

> > >

> > > Does everyone experience negative side effects? Does anyone wish

> > > they had not chelated? I guess hearing some positive outcomes

would

> > > really help me not view this process as scary/risky. Thanks for

your

> > > patience with a mom who really is trying to do her best...

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> >

>