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This is something I have been meaning to tell the group about myself. My

herbist saw me at my worst, I could not walk without holding onto someone,

couldnt not stand without yelling in pain from my hip swelling to the sitting

position, and had no energy besides wanting to sleep and not being able to.

She put me on a drink, which consists of 1 1/2 cups of apple juice (no sugar

added kind), 1 tbls of virgin cold pressed olive oil, 1 lemon cut into 1/4s,

all thrown in the blender and then strain and add 1 tsp of spiralina, then

drink. Also gave me MSM capsules and flax and borage combo tablets to take,

and liquid calcium to take at night. In two days of soing this, I was

walking, sleeping very good only at night when you are suppoosed to, not

popping each time I moved, standing with sooo much ease. And now after two

weeks, I am getting out of bed and having no trouble with joints being stiff,

my hands can pick up things with ease, I can walk anywhere for extended time

periods, and have energy to worry most. I have no idea why. But I was taking

Keteoprofen 2 times a day, darvocet 4 times a day, ultram once a day, and

flexeril at night to sleep. No drugs from Dr in two weeks and I feel great.

And something else, my thoughts arent on why do this? Just give up and die.

They are on painting my kids room and washing the car. I have had RA for 32

years and have never felt so good. I am not saying that this is a miracle

cure, just that it is the god's truth what I have written and I have no reason

to questions it, just am happy and loving it for now. While it is working. I

am supposed to see my herbist again next month, and she wont know me from the

last time if I keep up the great improvement. My wrist were looking like

Florida oranges, now they are so skinny I can wrap my fingers around them.

And my knees are no longer hot and swollen, they look like knees. I dont know

why. I am just glad to feel good again. If anyone wants to know more about

this stuff, write me, I will shout it to the world. Thanks for reading.....

Good luck to you all.

(now bouncing to the barn to feed my horses) LOL :-)

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HI ,

More! More! :)

I live about 1 1/2 hours away from anything, but will be in San

on Monday. What do I need to buy, where do I get it (a regular grocer

or a Health Food store), and what do I strain it with (a certain mesh)?

Thanks soooooo much! I'll definitely give it a try!!!

God Bless you and keep those secret recipes coming, Debra :)

KHY1704@... wrote:

>

> From: KHY1704@...

>

> This is something I have been meaning to tell the group about myself. My

> herbist saw me at my worst, I could not walk without holding onto someone,

> couldnt not stand without yelling in pain from my hip swelling to the sitting

> position, and had no energy besides wanting to sleep and not being able to.

> She put me on a drink, which consists of 1 1/2 cups of apple juice (no sugar

> added kind), 1 tbls of virgin cold pressed olive oil, 1 lemon cut into 1/4s,

> all thrown in the blender and then strain and add 1 tsp of spiralina, then

> drink. Also gave me MSM capsules and flax and borage combo tablets to take,

> and liquid calcium to take at night. In two days of soing this, I was

> walking, sleeping very good only at night when you are suppoosed to, not

> popping each time I moved, standing with sooo much ease. And now after two

> weeks, I am getting out of bed and having no trouble with joints being stiff,

> my hands can pick up things with ease, I can walk anywhere for extended time

> periods, and have energy to worry most. I have no idea why. But I was taking

> Keteoprofen 2 times a day, darvocet 4 times a day, ultram once a day, and

> flexeril at night to sleep. No drugs from Dr in two weeks and I feel great.

> And something else, my thoughts arent on why do this? Just give up and die.

> They are on painting my kids room and washing the car. I have had RA for 32

> years and have never felt so good. I am not saying that this is a miracle

> cure, just that it is the god's truth what I have written and I have no reason

> to questions it, just am happy and loving it for now. While it is working. I

> am supposed to see my herbist again next month, and she wont know me from the

> last time if I keep up the great improvement. My wrist were looking like

> Florida oranges, now they are so skinny I can wrap my fingers around them.

> And my knees are no longer hot and swollen, they look like knees. I dont know

> why. I am just glad to feel good again. If anyone wants to know more about

> this stuff, write me, I will shout it to the world. Thanks for reading.....

> Good luck to you all.

>

> (now bouncing to the barn to feed my horses) LOL :-)

>

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Hello ,

It's wonderful that you are feeling so much better. I've printed out your

post so I can add your oil and apple juice cocktail to my recipe box. Are

you also on antibiotic?

Bye,

Kari

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>From: KHY1704@...

>SEG14@..., rheumaticonelist

>Subject: rheumatic Re: Thanks and olive oil

>Date: Sat, Feb 20, 1999, 10:16 AM

>

>From: KHY1704@...

>

>This is something I have been meaning to tell the group about myself. My

>herbist saw me at my worst, I could not walk without holding onto someone,

>couldnt not stand without yelling in pain from my hip swelling to the sitting

>position, and had no energy besides wanting to sleep and not being able to.

>She put me on a drink, which consists of 1 1/2 cups of apple juice (no sugar

>added kind), 1 tbls of virgin cold pressed olive oil, 1 lemon cut into 1/4s,

>all thrown in the blender and then strain and add 1 tsp of spiralina, then

>drink. Also gave me MSM capsules and flax and borage combo tablets to take,

>and liquid calcium to take at night. In two days of soing this, I was

>walking, sleeping very good only at night when you are suppoosed to, not

>popping each time I moved, standing with sooo much ease. And now after two

>weeks, I am getting out of bed and having no trouble with joints being stiff,

>my hands can pick up things with ease, I can walk anywhere for extended time

>periods, and have energy to worry most. I have no idea why. But I was taking

>Keteoprofen 2 times a day, darvocet 4 times a day, ultram once a day, and

>flexeril at night to sleep. No drugs from Dr in two weeks and I feel great.

>And something else, my thoughts arent on why do this? Just give up and die.

>They are on painting my kids room and washing the car. I have had RA for 32

>years and have never felt so good. I am not saying that this is a miracle

>cure, just that it is the god's truth what I have written and I have no reason

>to questions it, just am happy and loving it for now. While it is working. I

>am supposed to see my herbist again next month, and she wont know me from the

>last time if I keep up the great improvement. My wrist were looking like

>Florida oranges, now they are so skinny I can wrap my fingers around them.

>And my knees are no longer hot and swollen, they look like knees. I dont know

>why. I am just glad to feel good again. If anyone wants to know more about

>this stuff, write me, I will shout it to the world. Thanks for reading.....

>Good luck to you all.

>

> (now bouncing to the barn to feed my horses) LOL :-)

>

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Dr. Nicolson prescribes this mixture (minus the spiralina) as an

antiseptic to the system. You'll find the formula in section 6 of the

Frequently Asked Questions - http://www.rheumatic.org/faq.htm

Dr. Nicolson's formula calls for fruit juice, but using apple juice

would probably make it more effective.

, do you know why the spiralina is added?

Ethel

KHY1704@... wrote:

>

> From: KHY1704@...

>

> This is something I have been meaning to tell the group about myself. My

> herbist saw me at my worst, I could not walk without holding onto someone,

> couldnt not stand without yelling in pain from my hip swelling to the sitting

> position, and had no energy besides wanting to sleep and not being able to.

> She put me on a drink, which consists of 1 1/2 cups of apple juice (no sugar

> added kind), 1 tbls of virgin cold pressed olive oil, 1 lemon cut into 1/4s,

> all thrown in the blender and then strain and add 1 tsp of spiralina, then

> drink. Also gave me MSM capsules and flax and borage combo tablets to take,

> and liquid calcium to take at night. In two days of soing this, I was

> walking, sleeping very good only at night when you are suppoosed to, not

> popping each time I moved, standing with sooo much ease. And now after two

> weeks, I am getting out of bed and having no trouble with joints being stiff,

> my hands can pick up things with ease, I can walk anywhere for extended time

> periods, and have energy to worry most. I have no idea why. But I was taking

> Keteoprofen 2 times a day, darvocet 4 times a day, ultram once a day, and

> flexeril at night to sleep. No drugs from Dr in two weeks and I feel great.

> And something else, my thoughts arent on why do this? Just give up and die.

> They are on painting my kids room and washing the car. I have had RA for 32

> years and have never felt so good. I am not saying that this is a miracle

> cure, just that it is the god's truth what I have written and I have no reason

> to questions it, just am happy and loving it for now. While it is working. I

> am supposed to see my herbist again next month, and she wont know me from the

> last time if I keep up the great improvement. My wrist were looking like

> Florida oranges, now they are so skinny I can wrap my fingers around them.

> And my knees are no longer hot and swollen, they look like knees. I dont know

> why. I am just glad to feel good again. If anyone wants to know more about

> this stuff, write me, I will shout it to the world. Thanks for reading.....

> Good luck to you all.

>

> (now bouncing to the barn to feed my horses) LOL :-)

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Dear ,

That's terrific! I love to hear stories like that! I am such a firm believer

in diet and herbs and it's always a treat to hear about such a success, and

not from toxic drugs either!

Do you know why it's supposed to work? Is it the combination...or the

individual ingredients or what?

I am so confused, having read so much and seen two nutrtionists who conflict

with each other.

I kind of want to have allergy testing done instead of eliminating everything

all the time which is what I've done for years. For example, I do eat

potatoes and have felt fine, and now this new person says no nightshades, but

oils okay. The old nutritionist said no oil but nightshades yes.

HELP! I feel better now...needed to scream help. I'm so sick of eating

" healthy foods " all the time when I see my friends eating dessert and pasta

and pizza and feeling great.

I am so pleased your pain is gone!

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that is amazing! Glad you don't need the pharmacy. Isn't it

amazing how full you medicine cabinet gets? Mine is getting more room tho

as I throw out the MTX and Plaqu. Could you tell me what spiralina is.

And do you take the antibiotics too.

Enjoy your lovely horses. I wish I was mobile enough to have some. We

have four empty box stalls just waiting.

Love

Bev

rheumatic Re: Thanks and olive oil

>From: KHY1704@...

>

>This is something I have been meaning to tell the group about myself. My

>herbist saw me at my worst, I could not walk without holding onto someone,

>couldnt not stand without yelling in pain from my hip swelling to the

sitting

>position, and had no energy besides wanting to sleep and not being able to.

>She put me on a drink, which consists of 1 1/2 cups of apple juice (no

sugar

>added kind), 1 tbls of virgin cold pressed olive oil, 1 lemon cut into

1/4s,

>all thrown in the blender and then strain and add 1 tsp of spiralina, then

>drink. Also gave me MSM capsules and flax and borage combo tablets to

take,

>and liquid calcium to take at night. In two days of soing this, I was

>walking, sleeping very good only at night when you are suppoosed to, not

>popping each time I moved, standing with sooo much ease. And now after two

>weeks, I am getting out of bed and having no trouble with joints being

stiff,

>my hands can pick up things with ease, I can walk anywhere for extended

time

>periods, and have energy to worry most. I have no idea why. But I was

taking

>Keteoprofen 2 times a day, darvocet 4 times a day, ultram once a day, and

>flexeril at night to sleep. No drugs from Dr in two weeks and I feel

great.

>And something else, my thoughts arent on why do this? Just give up and

die.

>They are on painting my kids room and washing the car. I have had RA for

32

>years and have never felt so good. I am not saying that this is a miracle

>cure, just that it is the god's truth what I have written and I have no

reason

>to questions it, just am happy and loving it for now. While it is working.

I

>am supposed to see my herbist again next month, and she wont know me from

the

>last time if I keep up the great improvement. My wrist were looking like

>Florida oranges, now they are so skinny I can wrap my fingers around them.

>And my knees are no longer hot and swollen, they look like knees. I dont

know

>why. I am just glad to feel good again. If anyone wants to know more

about

>this stuff, write me, I will shout it to the world. Thanks for

reading.....

>Good luck to you all.

>

> (now bouncing to the barn to feed my horses) LOL :-)

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hello ,

I asked about the antibiotic because I wondered if, maybe, your results were

due to the AP " kicking in " . It is wonderful that you are doing so well

without any RX at all! I've been taking the flax/borage combo since I

started the Minocin about 10 weeks ago. At this point, some days are pretty

good and some are pretty discouraging. I don't know if it will work as well

for me as it has for you, but it sure can't hurt for me to add your special

drink to my day!

Thanks for your response.

Bye,

Kari

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>From: KHY1704@...

>skifamily@...

>Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: Thanks and olive oil

>Date: Sun, Feb 21, 1999, 10:29 AM

>

>Dear kari,

>

>I had the perscription for the AP in my hand with other prescriptions, like

>prednisone, ultram, ketoprofen, darvocet, and flexeril. I stopped by my

>friend, who is an herbist, and she begged me to try her remedy first. I

>thought what the heck, ok. She gave me this drink and other essential

>minerals to try. I have been on this two weeks. I can walk, sit, get up LOL

>sleep, walk up hills, and down,. pick things up (I was having trouble lifting

>my glass before to drink water) I am so energitic. People that saw me last

>month, cant believe it. I am not taking anything for pain, when before I was

>high all day. I am very positive, when befrore I thought I was going to die,

>my joints dont pop with each movement. and I am beginning to start riding my

>exercise bike. With this I will start off slowly, but am determined to lose

>50 lbs and have my life back instead of hiding from it. I would recommend

>finding an herbist, or person that practices natural medicine, just for that

>extra opinion. Good luck and if I can help you let me know... here is what I

>do each day....

>

>drink...

>

>1 1/2 cups of apple juice

>1 tbls of first pressing cold pressed virgin olive oil

>1 lemon sliced in 1/4 and tossed in

>blend until smooth, then strain (with anything to remove the pulp) then pour

>back into blender, and add 1 tsp to 1 1/2 tsp of Spirulina. Spirulina is a

>type of kelp that grows in Hawaii. Drink ... I do this in the morning

>

>then take

>

>Flax Borage Combo 600mg each 1 three times a day ( I take 2 in the

>morning and 1 in evening) This gives you omega 6 GLA and Omega 3 we need

>this alot due to the RA...

>

>MSM 600 mg each ( methyl-sulfonyl-methane) 1 five times a day ( I take two

>in the morning and 1 near lunch and 2 at night) this is a very essential

>mineral

>

>Liquid Calcium 1000 mg each /with 400 mg of magnesium 3 a day, I take 1 at

>dinner and two about 1 hour before bedtime, this helps me sleep instead of

>having to take flexeril. I have slept so soundly not waking due to pain or

>being uncomfortable.

>

>This is it so far, and I have stopped taking all the things that my Rheumy had

>written. Keteprofen, darvocet, Ultram, flexeril, and I had a prescription for

>prednisone, she had written for me when she saw me last due to the swelling of

>my joints and the pain I was in, but I went to my herbists and asked her what

>to do and she put me on this path. I hope it works for you. Also while you

>are at the health stores, maybe ask for recomendations of an herbist. Just in

>case ... Good luck.

>

>

>

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