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A lot who claim to.

Most have no clue. There are good reasons mainstream doctors have a

low opinion of alternative medicine, it isn't entirely prejudice or

evil intentions.

Andy

> Are there doctors who specialise in mercury/metal detox? I am

> looking for myself in the Woodstock/Kingston NY area.

>

> thank you, julie

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There are good reasons mainstream doctors have a

low opinion of alternative medicine, it isn't entirely prejudice or

evil intentions.

And there are good reasons why some mainstream doctors should be put on trial

for crimes against humanity.

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

http://www.worldpsychology.net

We must fight a non-violent war, fought on the plains of consciousness,

putting a stop to injections that bring harm. We must call humanity to the

task of finding the truth, the whole truth about vaccines.

The worldwide program of childhood vaccinations is cruel and is a biological

weapon of mass destruction aimed at the most vulnerable elements of humanity.

The test of the morality of a society

is what it does to its children.

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A lot who claim to.

Most have no clue. There are good reasons mainstream doctors have a

low opinion of alternative medicine, it isn't entirely prejudice or

evil intentions.

Andy

> Are there doctors who specialise in mercury/metal detox? I am

> looking for myself in the Woodstock/Kingston NY area.

>

> thank you, julie

> --

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> Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever

>

> @..@

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> There are good reasons mainstream doctors have a

> low opinion of alternative medicine, it isn't entirely prejudice or

> evil intentions.

>

> And there are good reasons why some mainstream doctors should be put

on trial for crimes against humanity.

Now I should lecture you sternly about how they aren't ALL bad, etc.

etc. etc. etc. until I am blue in the face and you are ready to puke,

but instead I will admit that it took me a while to decide NOT to

dedicate my book AMALGAM ILLNESS: DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT " to the day

the responsible officials at the FDA, AMA and ADA face justice for

their crimes against humanity " largely on the basis that this would

distract people from the technical content of the books.

Now a more informative " lecture " is about how evil this horrendous

happens. I spent some time being a research dweeb at various NASA

supported institutions and did get to meet and spend some time with

real ex-nazis who we had kinda overlooked the record of and let them

come to the US after WW 2 because they knew how to make rockets. Some

repentant, some not, some only peripherally involved, some pretty

central to the V2 program.

By being an interested and friendly person (and NOT letting them ever

guess that I am technically jewish!) I was able to get some truly

fascinating first hand discussion of what happened and what it meant

from guys in their '60's who were starting to get old enough to talk

informatively about things.

The story that emerged was simply one of people going along to get

along and trying to work within the system. A system where power

flowed down from the top, as it does with specialist academies and

licensing boards. A system where the very worst elements of society

desperately wanted to get on top, and did. A system where secret

accusers could bring secret indictments against " bad people, " as the

" peer review " committees of all state medical associations routinely

do now that they have corrupt laws in place to allow secrecy. A

system very much like we have turned modern medicine into.

And I think the correct solution is the same as it was in Germany

after world war 2. Trials and punishment for those leaders

responsible for corrupting truth and committing immoral acts.

Denazification for society, which by analogy means no long term AMA

members can ever serve on mediccal boards again. And mostly letting

the little guys go unless they personally went out of their way to

commit horrific acts.

But really I am not mean, angry, or political enough to really make

any of this happen. Besides, I think it is a much more productive

thing to help give some children back their futures than it is to try

to punish a few evil doctors.

Perhaps we can get the venting on this subject over with and stay

focussed on helping sick kids get better? The existence of mainstream

medicine or evil doctors in no way interferes with the ability of the

parents on this list to get their children well as long as they can

find the information they need here, instead of just a lot of raving.

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The Craniofacial team at Children's/Boston will no longer see plagio

patients. All plagio cases now go to either neurosurgery (Drs.

Madsen and Proctor) or plastics. Dr. is the name I was given

if I wanted to take Nate to see someone in plastics, which I don't.

The only reason I know this is his PT thought it was strange that

he'd gone to neurosurgery instead of the craniofacial team, so she

called to see if they would see him. I would assume that this is a

fairly new move because his PT was really surprised.

I'll let you know how my Hanger consult goes on Tuesday.

Mom to Nate

Maine

> > > Does anyone know if any of these clinics are reputable for

> fitting

> > > bands? I have seen some psots referring to other Hanger

> > locations.

> > > All 3 of these places would be within a 30 to 45 minute drive

> for

> > me,

> > > I think. mish

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I thought Dr. was having some legal issues. Any update on that?

Kathy

-NNY

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> I thought Dr. was having some legal issues. Any update on

that?

> Kathy

> -NNY

Hi Kathy and All,

I know that he had his lab closed down. He has taken alot of $ from

patients and parents and has the most cfs patents of any researcher

(patents cost $$$$). I heard he told a patient that the blood was

sent to a CA state lab and when she called the state knew nothing

about it. This patient apparently gave Dr. money for Epione

research and she sued him, but he won (this is hearsay only). That

aside, he has made very important discoveries regarding ME/CFIDS.

I do believe that is on the right track by trying to control

microbes and allergies and their assault on the immune system.

However, I am beginning to believe that the agent responsible for

all this was born in a lab and was probably created as a bio

weapon...just my opinion though. Once we get more inforamtion from

the NCF, we all have to step up to the plate and get some major

research $$$$ from congress (how transmitted, prevention, education

and treatment).

We owe it to our kids and their kids, to stop this vicious cycle.

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> Hi Kathy and All,

>

> I know that he had his lab closed down. He has taken alot of $

from

> patients and parents and has the most cfs patents of any

researcher

> (patents cost $$$$). I heard he told a patient that the blood was

> sent to a CA state lab and when she called the state knew nothing

> about it. This patient apparently gave Dr. money for

Epione

> research and she sued him, but he won (this is hearsay only). That

> aside, he has made very important discoveries regarding ME/CFIDS.

Hi ,

The two books that many of us have read are " The Virus Within: A

Coming Epidemic "

" Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Epidemic "

And many of us keep up with CFS news......so we have a good

understanding of what has gone on in the research world. There were

top CFS researchers who wanted to validate his work and really tried

to but they couldn't and neither could he.

Now he's talking about energy pigments. I wonder if this is what

he's calling the catalytic antibodies (abzymes) that are found in

many of the disorders he mentions. They use an alternative energy

force,lol.

I guess I'd question what he's discovered..........

I did a search and found a letter that is on the autism autoimmunity

website. I'm not sure what the letters he included are supposed to

prove since we can't read what if anything they're in response to.

This sentence sums it up pretty nicely..... .

" Nor could I satisfy those who wanted a laboratory test that would

be specifically diagnostic for CFS and that could readily

distinguished fatigued from non-fatigued patients;

or at least would not be positive in some seemingly healthy

individuals. "

http://www.autismautoimmunityproject.org/history.htm

___________________________________________________

http://www.lougehrigsdisease.net/als_news/010331family_waits_for_a_mi

racle.htm

Disease Or Deception

http://www.nbc4.tv/team4reports/1977042/detail.html

W. Stripped of License -- Is All His Work Bogus?

http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/martin.html

Dr. received his medical training in Australia and was the

chief of the Immunology/Molecular Pathology Unit at the LAC/USC

(University of California) Medical Center as well as a professor of

pathology at the USC School of Medicine. He was the former director

of the Viral Oncology Branch of the FDA's (Federal Drug

Administration) Bureau of Biologics which is the principal

agency in charge of testing human vaccines. Before that, he worked

at the National Cancer Institute. He emerged as a key player in

ME/CFIDS research in the late 1980's with a virus that he named

a " stealth " virus.

By the early 90's, The CFIDS Association had funded him for

$231,000. Dr. had said he had discovered " Epione " which was

a " potential therapy of stealth viral infection. " He named it after

the wife of a Greek God of medicine known for skills in " soothing

pain " . He assured the CFIDS Association that Epione was already in

stage 2 testing with an IND number through the federal government.

They cut off his funding but never told the patient community why.

The reason they cut off funding? They checked with the FDA and found

out all had told them about the status of Epione was a lie.

If the CFIDS Association (CAA) had, at that time, been more

forthcoming about this to the patient community, which they claim to

represent, it may well have ended the destructive path that

was taking.

But they kept those facts to themselves and have, subsequently,

caused a lot of harm to hundreds and, perhaps, thousands, of

patients in the decade since this happened. When one of the authors

of this piece asked Dr. why the CFIDS Association stopped

funding him, he said it was a " mere misunderstanding. "

http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/martin.html

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Hi, . My son is on a waiting list to go see him. The waiting list

sucks, but I have heard only good things. We've done a lot of testing on our own

through my son's pediatrician. She's very willing to sign for testing, but

doesn't know much. After testing, I talked to the biochemist at GPL. She met

Dr. at a conference. She thinks he is good so it gives me hope. I

found a website for his office if you would like it I'll try to find it again.

I know this isn't much information. The other DAN dr in Asheville(Biddle)

doesn't seem to nice from everything I've heard. Where are you in NC? I'd love

to chat with you some more.

Becky

Harmon <lisaharmon@...> wrote:

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Have any of you ever had any experience with Dr. in

Asheville, NC? Any reports would be appreciated. Feel free to answer

off list if necessary.

H.

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Thanks Becky. Is the waiting list long? I'm not actually in NC but in

GA about 20 miles from . I'd love to chat, too. Email me off

list.

H.

On Oct 1, 2004, at 9:48 PM, becky jenkins wrote:

> Hi, .  My son is on a waiting list to go see him.  The

> waiting list sucks, but I have heard only good things. We've done a

> lot of testing on our own through my son's pediatrician. She's very

> willing to sign for testing, but doesn't know much.  After testing, I

> talked to the biochemist at GPL.  She met Dr.  at a

> conference.  She thinks he is good so it gives me hope.  I found a

> website for his office if you would like it I'll try to find it

> again.  I know this isn't much information.  The other DAN dr in

> Asheville(Biddle) doesn't seem to nice from everything I've heard. 

> Where are you in NC?  I'd love to chat with you some more.

>

> Becky

>

> Harmon <lisaharmon@...> wrote:

> Hi Listmates,

>

> Have any of you ever had any experience with Dr. in

> Asheville, NC?  Any reports would be appreciated.  Feel free to answer

> off list if necessary.

>

> H.

>

>

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Dear Pam,

So like who ever said that Dr. Hulda was in prison!!! In fact what in the

world would ever cause you to ask such a far out question!!!

Sincerely,

Myers wakiza21@...

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Dr.

Can anybody tell me which prison Dr. is residing in?

Pam

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This is just my observation. Do some additional homework and factor

in what you read here, including Dr. 's current thinking.

I've been " seeing " Dr. () Crisler since August. I'm self-

employed so insurance is not an issue. If insurance is a factor then

you may want to check into it a bit further before starting.

Dr. Crisler is pretty thourough, especially about testing. I had

about 8-9 months worth of blood tests and doctor's exam notes and his

first batch of tests ran $600. He covered a lot of territory with

those tests and looked at things my PCP, urologist and my idiot (soon

to be fired) endo, never looked at. We were able to focus on the

areas that are important.

He tries to get a good balance between t and E2. I've been pleased

with the results so far with teh exception of getting my E2 too low.

We are adding HCG to my weekly injections with teh hopes of further

reducing my weekly t-cyp injections.

If you are working with a local PCP, you should make sure that he/she

is open-minded enough to accept the use of an out-of-state, internet

physician. My PCP still gives me trouble when he sees copies of

blood test results that were supposed to go to Dr. Crisler but went

to him instead. I still keep him in the loop but you want to make

sure you have a good local provider that will listen.

Dr. Crisler is busy and you have to keep on top of getting results

from him. As a side-effect of his growing practice he seems to get

frustrated when you ask too many questions or try to clarify a point

too often. You will get good results if you keep good notes and

copies of all test results.

He's blunt and to the point and extremely (underscore extremely)

confident in his approach. I certainly don't mind someone who thinks

he's the best, says he's the best and delivers on his promises. In

my case, Dr. Crisler has done that for me. I know folks that would

be put off by his attitude but he seems to know his stuff.

His fees seem reasonable. You pay an initial consultation fee, send

in your records and he sends back a batch of recommendations. When

he prescribes meds you pay the cost of the meds plus $15 for shipping

and handling. I've gotten good turn-around on my meds and the

pharmacy he works with even throws in a couple candy bars (small

ones).

I am happy with working with Dr. Crisler with the only negative

aspect resulting from my PCP's acceptance of this type of long-

distance relationship. His treatment approach has really helped me

and gotten my levels to a very comfortable state.

Hope that helps...

Bobby

>

> I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

find

> any.

> Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

>

> Thanks

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If you decided to go with Dr , make sure you remind him that you live in

California when he orders lab tests for you. He mistakenly sent me to Quest

Diagnostics, which WILL NOT accept orders for California residents from a

non-Calif doctor.

Dr was very apologetic and set me up with LabOne instead, which

conducted the tests with no problems, and accepted my Blue Cross card as

payment at the time of the draw.

I've only just started working with him, but I have to agree with the other

post that he IS VERY THOROUGH, made several recommendations just from my

initial consult form, and is open to my thoughts as well.

On a side note, he initially suggested Test Cypionate shots for me, but when

I mentioned I had a 4-month supply of Androgel on hand from an old Rx, he

said we should try that first..an attempt to save me money I'm sure.

Based on my limited dealings with him so far, I'd give him a thumbs up.

> Dr.

>

>

>

> I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far

> cannot find any.

> Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

>

> Thanks

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adr have you tryed going to this link and at the upper right click on Find A Dr.

the put in your state. You will get a list of Dr.'s you can call and ask if

they treat men for low T and high E2 if they do ask how many.

http://www.tuneupyourt.com/

Phil

adr_59 <alexdr@...> wrote:

I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot find

any.

Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

Thanks

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Thanks to everyone, who replied.

I think I should have metnioned taht I am most interested in such

treatments as Clomid, since I am secondary and hope to restore my

HTPA.

SO another question,

Is Dr. open to use of Clomid or something similar or is he

leaning towards direct TRT?

Thanks again.

.

>

> I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

find

> any.

> Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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It is stated on his homepage that he does use Clomid. Here is part of his

statement:

" FINALLY!...a doctor who works with steroid athletes, AND provides Hormone

Replacement Therapy (HRT) for men. I will monitor your liver function, lipid

profile, Complete Blood Count (CBC), and general health while on cycle. We also

provide hCG, Nolvadex, Clomid, Arimidex, Viagra, and other medications for our

steroid athlete/patients. Receive real FDA-approved medications, which may be

paid for by your insurance, without getting ripped-off, scammed, or busted.

Interested? Read on. "

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Kissie

Re: Dr.

Thanks to everyone, who replied.

I think I should have metnioned taht I am most interested in such

treatments as Clomid, since I am secondary and hope to restore my

HTPA.

SO another question,

Is Dr. open to use of Clomid or something similar or is he

leaning towards direct TRT?

Thanks again.

.

>

> I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

find

> any.

> Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

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> > I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

> find

> > any.

> > Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> > http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

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If you're near Costa Mesa, the follow doc is listed in the database here:

Ramon  Scruggs MD  www.newhopemed.com  949-631-9047  1831 Orange

Ave. Suite A  Costa Mesa, CA 92627  New Hope Health Center  Hormone

replacement (high percentage of patients are athletes) 

Bruce

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> I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot find

> any.

>

> Thanks

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I've seen him a year ago. Very very expensive and not that impressive.

One visit cost me ~$600 with very marginal results.

> >

> > I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

find

> > any.

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> > Thanks

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There is definitely something to be said for seeing a doctor in

person. The following doctor was highly recommended to me by a number

of people on one of the bodybuilding forums. His name is Karlis

Ullis, MD and he is suppossed to have worked with many athletes. I

have not used him personally, so I can't give you my opinion. He is

located in Santa , CA. This web link contains an article

written by him and some information about him.

http://www.musclemonthly.com/articles/010515/010515-ullis-hormone-

replacement-therapy.htm

> > >

> > > I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

> find

> > > any.

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Based on what I have read, Dr. Crisler, DO does not give his

patients Clomid for sole TRT because it produces no long-term

benefits.

You might want to check out a report he wrote about how to perform

TRT, which can be found at

http://www.sculptedbyiron.com/forum/showthread.php3? & threadid=8971

> >

> > I am desperately looking for a good doctor in CA, so far cannot

> find

> > any.

> > Will apreciate any comments about Dr. at

> > http://www.allthingsmale.com/ from people who uses his services.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

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So glad to hear it!! It’s always

great to hear of another victory over the dragon! -dz-

[ ] Dr.

Hi everybody,

I saw my liver Dr. this morning.

I'm done with treatment at the end of March

and as of now I'm

undetectable.

I couldn't believe how good those words sounded.

Thanks for letting me share some good news :)

Rhonda

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Good morning group,

Thank you to everyone for your positive response. I'm still pinching myself!

To answer your question I was on the 24 week treatment.

I'm anxious to be done and watch my hair grow back in-lol

I'm very happy to have this outcome and possibly give some hope to those

just finding out and starting treatment, the way some of you others gave me

hope when this was new to me and unknown and scary. It's definitely worth

the effort regardless of the results, and I thought so before I knew

yesterday.

I don't want to live my life not having tried, you know?

Everybody have a great day!!!!

Rhonda

[ ] Dr.

> Hi everybody,

> I saw my liver Dr. this morning.

> I'm done with treatment at the end of March and as of now I'm

> undetectable.

> I couldn't believe how good those words sounded.

> Thanks for letting me share some good news :)

> Rhonda

>

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Dear Mark,

Thanks for your encouraging words!

I have fighting for 30 years here in Mexico... telling people (and

other M.D.s) that acupuncture works... I am the first acupuncturist

that established in Mexico, the time that the Acupuncturist were

classified as " crazy guys " , and now Acupuncture teaches at the

Universities!.

Please visit my unfinished web page, there is something that can tell

you how is my thinking... remember an M.D always is an M.D. (The

brainwash is forever!) ...;-)

In order to get the field of action of the teachers in the

Odonthology(dentist) faculty, I studied that career, discovering that

the " teachers " were " teaching only approved facts (If using amalgam is

a fact, they teach the use of amalgam) and that almost all Dentist

were dedicated only to repeat and apply the " knowledge " without

doubt... as the Aztecs got the believing of the Spanish conquerors

telling the people that they were Gods, and abusing of the confidence

that the American natives deposited on them... with a Cross at one

hand and a knife in the other hand...

To be different, you need to practice a very strong " chelation " in

order to clarify your doubts and not asking those answers to the

" doctors-teachers " that are only repeaters of the words others said...

you need to ask with your hand on your hearth if you are doing right

applying those cures or treatments and negating other options to your

patients.

After knowing the answer, you must look for ALL the sources and norm a

criterion for the good the bad and the unethical, and know what? A new

, A new Mark or a new Dr. Huggins born!

I am really happy to be born again, and i am sure I (we) am at the

right way, at the right route.

Please visit my web page, www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ and please DO

NOT CRY as I am at this moment for the poor kid with cancer that is in

my web page...I need your tears because I have not enough tears for

ALL my patients that needs help and the " establishment " just bring

vaccines (contaminated) chemotherapy (contaminated) and radiations

(contaminated) and they think that are doing a good work! Who are most

crazy, Me, YOU or THEM?

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:35:11 -0300, Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

<director@...> wrote:

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>

> FDA and all 3 letters organizations will classify me as a crazy

> doctor!

>

> Well hello Dr. . Well if these organizations do classify you this way you

must be doing something right!

>

> Perosonally I like crazy doctors and courageous doctors for I think thats what

you have to be to truly serve people and patients today. Medical insanity is a

subject I have written quite a bit about. Up to this point actually on the whole

wide Internet I am the only person to write about this. When the medical

establishement (government), for instance, makes the safest drugs illegal and

the most dangerous legal we see the begining of the true form and shape of what

I call medical insanity. Also, one I personally detest, is when vaccine shots

kill kids they go after the parents and accuse them of killing their kids

(Shaken Baby Syndrome). I think Allan Yurko is only days away from finally being

released from prison.........................

>

> It is truly a low moment in history of medicine and humanity when it comes to

health care so please continue to speak out.

>

> Dr. Mark

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I am the first acupuncturist that established in Mexico, the time that the

Acupuncturist were

classified as " crazy guys " , and now Acupuncture teaches at the

Universities!.

Makes me remember when I first went down to Mexico 20 years ago to take over a

clinic that was on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean. All I brought with me

were my needles. And then one day a woman took me inland to a small city and we

visited the hospital there where the director was using acupuncture. But you

would not believe his needles, homemade and dirty....but everyone loved him. He

said quite clearly to me, " If you do not come here to practice I am coming down

to the beach and work with you up on that cliff. " How could I refuse.

Please visit my unfinished web page, there is something that can tell

you how is my thinking... remember an M.D always is an M.D. (The

brainwash is forever!) ...;-)

Very funny .....lol...and thanks for the invitation....nice to see your face

as well....

To be different, you need to practice a very strong " chelation " in

order to clarify your doubts

I like very much the implications here

After knowing the answer, you must look for ALL the sources and norm a

criterion for the good the bad and the unethical, and know what? A new

, A new Mark or a new Dr. Huggins born!

I really think this is the key and also the threat when doctors and other

primary health care workers stop learning.

I am really happy to be born again, and i am sure I (we) am at the

right way, at the right route.

The pace of change in my life these past two years and especially these past six

months has been nothing short of fantastic. I do not even feel like the same

person I was only a few months ago.....

DO

NOT CRY as I am at this moment for the poor kid with cancer that is in

my web page...I need your tears because I have not enough tears for

ALL my patients that needs help

These tears I know well and they drove me to write and publish Cry of the Heart

almost two years ago...a free virtual book on the insanity of

vaccines.....please visit my sites as well...http://www.imva.info

http://www.worldpsychology.net These days I do not cry so much as I used to but

occassionally like a thunderstorm it comes and my heart cleaves open......

Mark

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