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Oh goodness April, how my heart aches. If they don't blink, it means Frontal

Lobe Dementia, maybe. I should say usually.

Don't say anything to your dad, but act as if you are going to stroke his

head or something, and tap like the doctor did. Right on the front. You can do

that test yourself. Maybe come up from behind and have a mirror located where

you can watch him, and then tap his head. Oh brother. I hope not. I

understand some are not as bad, but if he has it he will probably have to go to

a

nursing home. There is no way you can care for him.

Imogene

In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:10:42 AM Central Daylight Time,

aswest1021@... writes:

Hi Imogene,

What did you mean when you referred to as FTD is the monster of all

dementias? Could something actually be worse then LBD? My FIL was

told recently by an Emory neurologist that his problems are frontal

lobe related. So, that dismisses his theory that my FIL has MSA. He

is leaning towards a diagnosis of Lewy Body, but wants my FIL to be

seen by a dementia specialist on Aug. 24th to firm up the diagnosis.

I do remember the neurologist tapping on my FIL's forehead to see if

he blinked and I don't think he did much blinking, at all. Is this

indicative of something?

April

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<snip>Is this indicative of something?<snip>

As I mentioned at the beginning of the thread... The neurologist tapped

my mother's forehead and b/c she blinked said it was NOT FTD. Had she

not blinked, it would be FTD.

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Imogene,

I'm really worried about my FIL now. I've never even heard of FTD

until I read your post. Does it cause tremors, rigidity, freezing,

memory loss, and cognitive changes just like with LBD? What are the

differences/similarities? I assume the prognosis isn't good. As I

said, I distinctly recall the neurologist tapping on my FIL's

forehead and I thought it was a strange thing to be doing. I just

don't remember my FIL blinking very much, only a little. I plan to

google FTD and see if I can learn more.

April

>

>

> Oh goodness April, how my heart aches. If they don't blink, it

means Frontal

> Lobe Dementia, maybe. I should say usually.

>

> Don't say anything to your dad, but act as if you are going to

stroke his

> head or something, and tap like the doctor did. Right on the

front. You can do

> that test yourself. Maybe come up from behind and have a mirror

located where

> you can watch him, and then tap his head. Oh brother. I hope not.

I

> understand some are not as bad, but if he has it he will probably

have to go to a

> nursing home. There is no way you can care for him.

>

> Imogene

>

>

> In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:10:42 AM Central Daylight Time,

> aswest1021@... writes:

>

> Hi Imogene,

>

> What did you mean when you referred to as FTD is the monster of

all

> dementias? Could something actually be worse then LBD? My FIL

was

> told recently by an Emory neurologist that his problems are

frontal

> lobe related. So, that dismisses his theory that my FIL has

MSA. He

> is leaning towards a diagnosis of Lewy Body, but wants my FIL to

be

> seen by a dementia specialist on Aug. 24th to firm up the

diagnosis.

> I do remember the neurologist tapping on my FIL's forehead to see

if

> he blinked and I don't think he did much blinking, at all. Is

this

> indicative of something?

>

> April

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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This does bother me Sharon M. Because my husband has a lot of shrinkage in

the frontal Lobe. His apathy is from that. It can only get worse. Yes, that

bothers me. I pray it doesn't. He has made one inappropriate comment to a Bank

teller that bothered me and her. He may have thought it was me for a moment.

Although I was not a teller, I worked in banks and behind the long counter.

I know you have been deeply hurt, emotionally, and for that I sure am sorry.

We don't expect our parents to do such horrible things, and treat us that

way, and it is hard to always realize the dementia is speaking, when they seem

perfectly lucid except for what they are saying, it is so out of character.

Did he become violent?

Some do.

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman husband of 35 years. He has LBD with

Parkinsonism.

In a message dated 7/19/2006 2:11:30 PM Central Daylight Time,

LadySmilingAtU2@... writes:

april,

this is strictly my opinion, but i think lbd and ftd are both awful,

becuase many lbd'ers have the frontal part of the brain affected as well. dad

had

moderate shrinkage of the frontal lobe as well as mild brain shrinkage. the

frontal part of the brain is the sexual inhibitions and tact part of the brain

as i understand it. dad would treat me like a pimp would his whore. he

would tell his friends for $100 sharon will do this and this to you. very

embarassing adn at one point dad pulled 'it' out adn told me to suck this dry

like

you are sucking my money dry. i was very upset, donnie treid to talk to

daddy but you know how hard it is to talk to lbd'ers about anything. these are

memories i am trying hard to put to rest but they still haunt me. hugs,

sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from

fall 7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- aswest1021 wrote:

Hi Imogene,

What did you mean when you referred to as FTD is the monster of all

dementias? Could something actually be worse then LBD? My FIL was

told recently by an Emory neurologist that his problems are frontal

lobe related. So, that dismisses his theory that my FIL has MSA. He

is leaning towards a diagnosis of Lewy Body, but wants my FIL to be

seen by a dementia specialist on Aug. 24th to firm up the diagnosis.

I do remember the neurologist tapping on my FIL's forehead to see if

he blinked and I don't think he did much blinking, at all. Is this

indicative of something?

April

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april,

this is strictly my opinion, but i think lbd and ftd are both awful, becuase

many lbd'ers have the frontal part of the brain affected as well. dad had

moderate shrinkage of the frontal lobe as well as mild brain shrinkage. the

frontal part of the brain is the sexual inhibitions and tact part of the brain

as i understand it. dad would treat me like a pimp would his whore. he would

tell his friends for $100 sharon will do this and this to you. very embarassing

adn at one point dad pulled 'it' out adn told me to suck this dry like you are

sucking my money dry. i was very upset, donnie treid to talk to daddy but you

know how hard it is to talk to lbd'ers about anything. these are memories i am

trying hard to put to rest but they still haunt me. hugs, sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall

7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- aswest1021 wrote:

Hi Imogene,

What did you mean when you referred to as FTD is the monster of all

dementias? Could something actually be worse then LBD? My FIL was

told recently by an Emory neurologist that his problems are frontal

lobe related. So, that dismisses his theory that my FIL has MSA. He

is leaning towards a diagnosis of Lewy Body, but wants my FIL to be

seen by a dementia specialist on Aug. 24th to firm up the diagnosis.

I do remember the neurologist tapping on my FIL's forehead to see if

he blinked and I don't think he did much blinking, at all. Is this

indicative of something?

April

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This is true.

Imogene

In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:27:57 PM Central Daylight Time,

octoryrose@... writes:

As I mentioned at the beginning of the thread... The neurologist tapped

my mother's forehead and b/c she blinked said it was NOT FTD. Had she

not blinked, it would be FTD.

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imogene,

you can have business cards made up that say,

i am sorry that my husband has offended you, he has Lewy Body Dementia, and is

unable to judge right from wrong, and comments are made inappropriately. if you

would like more information pliease go to www.lbda.org, we didnt have to tdo

that as dad was homebound and i had to explain to each person that he did things

like that, well hugs, sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall

7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- Iward27663@... wrote:

This does bother me Sharon M. Because my husband has a lot of shrinkage in

the frontal Lobe. His apathy is from that. It can only get worse. Yes, that

bothers me. I pray it doesn't. He has made one inappropriate comment to a Bank

teller that bothered me and her. He may have thought it was me for a moment.

Although I was not a teller, I worked in banks and behind the long counter.

I know you have been deeply hurt, emotionally, and for that I sure am sorry.

We don't expect our parents to do such horrible things, and treat us that

way, and it is hard to always realize the dementia is speaking, when they seem

perfectly lucid except for what they are saying, it is so out of character.

Did he become violent?

Some do.

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman husband of 35 years. He has LBD with

Parkinsonism.

In a message dated 7/19/2006 2:11:30 PM Central Daylight Time,

LadySmilingAtU2@... writes:

april,

this is strictly my opinion, but i think lbd and ftd are both awful,

becuase many lbd'ers have the frontal part of the brain affected as well. dad

had

moderate shrinkage of the frontal lobe as well as mild brain shrinkage. the

frontal part of the brain is the sexual inhibitions and tact part of the brain

as i understand it. dad would treat me like a pimp would his whore. he

would tell his friends for $100 sharon will do this and this to you. very

embarassing adn at one point dad pulled 'it' out adn told me to suck this dry

like

you are sucking my money dry. i was very upset, donnie treid to talk to

daddy but you know how hard it is to talk to lbd'ers about anything. these are

memories i am trying hard to put to rest but they still haunt me. hugs,

sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from

fall 7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- aswest1021 wrote:

Hi Imogene,

What did you mean when you referred to as FTD is the monster of all

dementias? Could something actually be worse then LBD? My FIL was

told recently by an Emory neurologist that his problems are frontal

lobe related. So, that dismisses his theory that my FIL has MSA. He

is leaning towards a diagnosis of Lewy Body, but wants my FIL to be

seen by a dementia specialist on Aug. 24th to firm up the diagnosis.

I do remember the neurologist tapping on my FIL's forehead to see if

he blinked and I don't think he did much blinking, at all. Is this

indicative of something?

April

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You have really suffered from abuse. You have been left with deep scars from

the kind of fighting you endured. I sure am sorry Sharon M.

I love you and feel your love in everything you write to anyone on the list.

Thank you for hanging in there with us, and helping all you can. Education

is the key, and you are providing your story for that purpose. We need to

hear it.

My man hasn't gotten to that point yet, and he may not. I just hope not.

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman husband of 35 years. He has LBD with

Parkinsonism.

In a message dated 7/20/2006 12:59:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

LadySmilingAtU2@... writes:

imogene,

you can have business cards made up that say,

i am sorry that my husband has offended you, he has Lewy Body Dementia, and

is unable to judge right from wrong, and comments are made inappropriately.

if you would like more information pliease go to www.lbda.org, we didnt

have to tdo that as dad was homebound and i had to explain to each person that

he did things like that, well hugs, sharon m

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thank you so much imogene, your love now and the love and help/hope from others

when all this went down helped me make it thru those times. it was weird tho,

as dad only did that when donnie was not at home, and it was worse when he was

visiting his family in tenn and i was left with daddy by myself. i would like

to say i have put it all behind me but i would be lying, i try and most of the

time i just remember the good times the giggle he had wehn the duck quacked old

mcdonald etc. he would love that and he would love his kitten too,

the hardest part with dad was he was a violent alcoholic and when he got in this

ugly moods dr jekyyl mr hdye moods as i called htem sent me to flashbacks of

the bad old days when i was growing up. so it was two-fold for me, a new hurt

and renewing old hurt. my dad was a very unhappy man most of his life, he was

married to my mom when neither one wanted to get married. and they both were

pressured into it by their families. and when i came along 10 months later, my

mom was not wanting to be a mom, and that caused more resentment all around. the

family. that is why all were so shocked when i moved here to take care of dad.

anyway, between the alcohol and the lbd he could be an eveil man, but then on

non alcoholic and good lbd days he could be as good as gold. hugs, sharon m

ps i pray that noone has to go thru the uglies like i did, esp you imogene,

hugs

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall

7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- Iward27663@... wrote:

You have really suffered from abuse. You have been left with deep scars from

the kind of fighting you endured. I sure am sorry Sharon M.

I love you and feel your love in everything you write to anyone on the list.

Thank you for hanging in there with us, and helping all you can. Education

is the key, and you are providing your story for that purpose. We need to

hear it.

My man hasn't gotten to that point yet, and he may not. I just hope not.

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman husband of 35 years. He has LBD with

Parkinsonism.

In a message dated 7/20/2006 12:59:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

LadySmilingAtU2@... writes:

imogene,

you can have business cards made up that say,

i am sorry that my husband has offended you, he has Lewy Body Dementia, and

is unable to judge right from wrong, and comments are made inappropriately.

if you would like more information pliease go to www.lbda.org, we didnt

have to tdo that as dad was homebound and i had to explain to each person that

he did things like that, well hugs, sharon m

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