Re: Re: Theme! My Dog Cricket/ Topper

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I have a living will done too, i don't want to be hooked up to machines if there is no hope. Luckly my family agrees and so does my doctor.

I have had to put down several pets also, the last one was my cat jessie she was 11yrs old and I still miss her to this day. I believe that once we get a pet, it is like our own children, so we are obligated to do whatever is neccessary to look after them.

gloriatopper2@... wrote:

Lucillle,You're right, it's really hard to do.. but if we care for them it'ssomething that we have to do. I've had to put several pets down due toillness or age... It doesn't get any easier, if you love them.... but ifyou do love them, how do you let them suffer?I've talked with my family, and I even wrote a letter that I keep withme, there is a copy in each of my pill boxes (one advantage of makingyour own custom pill boxes is having a space for things like that builtin)... stating my own feelings about resuscitation and life savingmeasures for myself.... Many doctors are very supportive in honoring anindividuals personal choices... when my own mother had her heart attackwe knew what we were supposed to say, but dad couldnt' get the words tocome out... she had told the doctor herself many times over the years..it was in her records... her brain was dead and 90 percent of her heartwas dead.. the plug needed to be pulled.. but dad couldnt' say thewords.... the doctor gave him time.. but he couldn't say it... The doctorasked the question - Do you want us to honor her wishes and stop theextraordinary efforts? Dad was finally able to nod his head..... That wasan exceptional doctor.Topper ()http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/http://toppertwo.tripod.comOn Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:57:25 -0000 "cille_98" writes:> Topper, it`s always hard to have them put to sleep, but I think our > selfishness, sometimes keeps them around long than nesessary.he vet > placed the thought erslier in the year saying he would peobably live > that long, but we had to try for his sake. I`m not sorry we did it, > but maybe waited a little to long. I could not bear to take him to > the Vet, so my dear hubbie took him and held him till he went to > sleep. My heart still misses him very much.> > Lucille

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We have a form in Texas nursing homes called the Texas DNR (Do Not Recusitate). This form MUST be in place some time after entrance, if we are not to recusitate. That is an out-of-hospital DNR. That doesn't mean that a resident can't be transferred to the hospital when he or she has a treatable sickness that is temporary. It means that in the case of terminal illness or in just a case that the heart is simply wearing out from aging and disease that can't be repaired, only comfort measures are taken. I have seen what I consider to be tragic cases of persons who are absolutely miserable and in terrible pain whose relatives simple cannot let them go. I can do it, but I feel so sad at the thought of pumping on someone's chest whom I know has expressed to me that they simply cannot go on and do NOT want to be here anymore. In fact, I MUST do it, if so directed. Loved ones sometimes don't realize what they are putting their mothers and fathers thru by doing this heroic measures thing.

Re: Re: Theme! My Dog Cricket/ Topper

I have a living will done too, i don't want to be hooked up to machines if there is no hope. Luckly my family agrees and so does my doctor.

I have had to put down several pets also, the last one was my cat jessie she was 11yrs old and I still miss her to this day. I believe that once we get a pet, it is like our own children, so we are obligated to do whatever is neccessary to look after them.

gloriatopper2@... wrote:

Lucillle,You're right, it's really hard to do.. but if we care for them it'ssomething that we have to do. I've had to put several pets down due toillness or age... It doesn't get any easier, if you love them.... but ifyou do love them, how do you let them suffer?I've talked with my family, and I even wrote a letter that I keep withme, there is a copy in each of my pill boxes (one advantage of makingyour own custom pill boxes is having a space for things like that builtin)... stating my own feelings about resuscitation and life savingmeasures for myself.... Many doctors are very supportive in honoring anindividuals personal choices... when my own mother had her heart attackwe knew what we were supposed to say, but dad couldnt' get the words tocome out... she had told the doctor herself many times over the years..it was in her ! records... her brain was dead and 90 percent of her heartwas dead.. the plug needed to be pulled.. but dad couldnt' say thewords.... the doctor gave him time.. but he couldn't say it... The doctorasked the question - Do you want us to honor her wishes and stop theextraordinary efforts? Dad was finally able to nod his head..... That wasan exceptional doctor.Topper ()http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/http://toppertwo.tripod.comOn Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:57:25 -0000 "cille_98" writes:> Topper, it`s always hard to have them put to sleep, but I think our > selfishness, sometimes keeps them around long than nesessary.he vet > placed the thought erslier in the year saying he would peobably live > that long, but we had to try for his sake. I`m not! sorry we did it, > but maybe waited a little to long. I could not bear to take him to > the Vet, so my dear hubbie took him and held him till he went to > sleep. My heart still misses him very much.> > Lucille

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I went through watching my F-I-L die a horrible death from cancer. My ex couldn't make a decision at all and his sister lived out of town so they left it up to me. They kept giving him blood transfusions as he would bleed it out so the night before he died..there was a incident where there were no nurses to help him. He was so weak but found enought strength to go to the bathroom on last time but it ended in a mess which I thought I could clean but couldn't. They came in and said that they were going to give him another blood transfusion....well the look in his eyes...told me don't let them...so I told them no more, let him go. The next morning he past away, now I wish I would have stopped it before so that he could have died with at least some dignity. That is when I decided to do my living will..I don't want to be that way nor do I want to put my family through it either, at least by doing my own living will, they are spared the agony of having to make the decision.

Gloria wrote:

We have a form in Texas nursing homes called the Texas DNR (Do Not Recusitate). This form MUST be in place some time after entrance, if we are not to recusitate. That is an out-of-hospital DNR. That doesn't mean that a resident can't be transferred to the hospital when he or she has a treatable sickness that is temporary. It means that in the case of terminal illness or in just a case that the heart is simply wearing out from aging and disease that can't be repaired, only comfort measures are taken. I have seen what I consider to be tragic cases of persons who are absolutely miserable and in terrible pain whose relatives simple cannot let them go. I can do it, but I feel so sad at the thought of pumping on someone's chest whom I know has expressed to me that they simply cannot go on and do NOT want to be here anymore. In fact, I MUST do it, if so directed. Loved ones sometimes don't realize what they are putting their mothers and fathers thru by doing this heroic measures thing.

Re: Re: Theme! My Dog Cricket/ Topper

I have a living will done too, i don't want to be hooked up to machines if there is no hope. Luckly my family agrees and so does my doctor.

I have had to put down several pets also, the last one was my cat jessie she was 11yrs old and I still miss her to this day. I believe that once we get a pet, it is like our own children, so we are obligated to do whatever is neccessary to look after them.

gloriatopper2@... wrote:

Lucillle,You're right, it's really hard to do.. but if we care for them it'ssomething that we have to do. I've had to put several pets down due toillness or age... It doesn't get any easier, if you love them.... but ifyou do love them, how do you let them suffer?I've talked with my family, and I even wrote a letter that I keep withme, there is a copy in each of my pill boxes (one advantage of makingyour own custom pill boxes is having a space for things like that builtin)... stating my own feelings about resuscitation and life savingmeasures for myself.... Many doctors are very supportive in honoring anindividuals personal choices... when my own mother had her heart attackwe knew what we were supposed to say, but dad couldnt' get the words tocome out... she had told the doctor herself many times over the years..it was in her ! records... her brain was dead and 90 percent of her heartwas dead.. the plug needed to be pulled.. but dad couldnt' say thewords.... the doctor gave him time.. but he couldn't say it... The doctorasked the question - Do you want us to honor her wishes and stop theextraordinary efforts? Dad was finally able to nod his head..... That wasan exceptional doctor.Topper ()http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/http://toppertwo.tripod.comOn Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:57:25 -0000 "cille_98" writes:> Topper, it`s always hard to have them put to sleep, but I think our > selfishness, sometimes keeps them around long than nesessary.he vet > placed the thought erslier in the year saying he would peobably live > that long, but we had to try for his sake. I`m not! sorry we did it, > but maybe waited a little to long. I could not bear to take him to > the Vet, so my dear hubbie took him and held him till he went to > sleep. My heart still misses him very much.> > Lucille